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BF told me his EXW is going to his Mom's BD celebrations. Feel 'off'.

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indicator2025 · 15/03/2025 10:55

I've been seeing someone for two years. He is divorced with two children. The children are 17 and 13. I have never been married and have no children. They divorced six years ago.

My boyfriend and his ex-wife used to take pretty much every vacation together as a family. This includes Intl and domestic trips throughout the year. Both are STILL enmeshed with each others' families. Regarding the vacations; he said this was because his kids want them to keep doing family vacations - just the four of them.

I felt like he was having his cake and eating it too. I didn't want my boundaries trampled over in the name of 'love'. We can all be understanding, of course - but I didn't want my understanding to be seen as weakness. Last year, they took a family trip this Summer/charted a boat in Greece etc... and to be honest, I still think I should have ended the relationship at that point - as he said he 'could come see me for a weekend' after he was done with family time. It was a slap in the face - and I felt like a mistress/affair partner in truth.

This year they aren't doing any Summer vacations together. Largely because of all that went down last year. For those wondering if I was the problem - no. It's not about 'healthy co-parenting' - as despite all these trips they used to take; they never had a good time! Everyone was miserable - and they always fought. It was weird to hear about and defied all logic.

(As for me; I tend to work a lot in a taxing job so it's not like I don't have a life, family, friends etc... thankfully my life is full enough. I have no desire to insert myself into his family life and 'stake my claim' like some crazy person, but I do want to know if this can ever go anywhere).

This year; his Mom has a milestone birthday - and she has invited EXW. I am not invited. The Mom, EXW and my BF are all in a iMessage group chat and communicate 'as a family' regularly. The EXW will be joining my BF and their kids as they travel to his Mom's state this Summer for her birthday. Is it just me or is this weird? My BF texted me to 'tell' me this was happening - and acted as though he deserved a medal given that they weren't doing any International trips this year...

Before anyone pounces at me, I fully understand the need/desire to spend time with one's children. I understand that everyone has traditions that they may like to maintain etc... I also think it's great that divorced couples can get on well for the sake of their children... except these two don't even get on well - which makes the whole situation even more bizarre! He acknowledges the setup is 'unusual'. My logic is - if they want to 'play house' - and play 'happy families' - then why not stay a family? His argument was that the marriage became untenable - and he had no choice but to exit the situation - and all the family trips are for the sake of the kids and their wants. My counter-argument is that if everything was/is in the name of the kids - then why date and drag someone else into a messy situation?

I also fully understand that when dating someone who is divorced with children, it adds many layers of complications and brings enormous baggage to a relationship. It goes without saying that when dating someone with children - children should indeed come first! They should be a priority, so if anyone is going to paint me as a 'childfree bitch', please don't.

I respect his obligations - and he's a great father, but I can't help but feel he's essentially still married - especially given his Mom still wants his EXW at her birthday celebrations.

The core issue here isn’t about respecting his role as a father it’s about whether this relationship structure allows space for a genuine partnership with me.

As this is the first person I've dated who has had children, I guess my question is twofold. I know there's no real 'normal' as no two families are the same - but how normal is this? I say that with no ill intent or meanness in my heart.

Moreover, should I just jump ship - and find someone without all the baggage? If the relationship were to end, it wouldn't be malicious or drama-filled. I'm aware that two good people can simply not be compatible. At this point, I'm in a cycle of feeling conflicted all-too-often. The imbalance may just be too great.

OP posts:
JocelynLimo · 15/03/2025 23:30

This year; his Mom has a milestone birthday - and she has invited EXW. I am not invited.

This is weird.

BobShark · 16/03/2025 09:43

Did I read that they took six holidays together last year?

as the ex wife with my sons father, who is now remarried, I have a pretty friendly relationship him, and in the early days we did continue things like family days out with our 3 year old, however when he and his new partner became serious we both took a step back out of respect for her.

this isn’t. Normal even for a divorced couple on excellent terms.

i think you need to voice this to him and give him the opportunity to make changes or more on.

CanOfMangoTango · 16/03/2025 09:49

I would nope out of this situation so fast OP

It's weird and really disrespectful. You're being treated like the OW and the ex is still the main woman in family life.

I wouldn't be an afterthought to anyone.

Not2identifying · 16/03/2025 10:06

I know somebody who co-parents really well with her ex. They would certainly attend some wider family occasions together but haven't gone on holiday together.

The key difference is that the mum has a new partner and he is included in everything. I admire all 3 of the adults.

murraymcgill · 16/03/2025 10:13

I wouldn't be dealing with all that shit your worth more than that

Tgfh · 16/03/2025 13:51

Why on earth would you allow yourself to be treated like this?
Ditch him and move on with your life.
No one with self respect and esteem would tolerate this.

indicator2025 · 16/03/2025 14:02

Tgfh · 16/03/2025 13:51

Why on earth would you allow yourself to be treated like this?
Ditch him and move on with your life.
No one with self respect and esteem would tolerate this.

I ended things yesterday.

I believe I saved myself from a lifetime of misery and a lifetime of feeling last place.

OP posts:
OkPedro · 16/03/2025 14:11

indicator2025 · 16/03/2025 14:02

I ended things yesterday.

I believe I saved myself from a lifetime of misery and a lifetime of feeling last place.

How did he react?

Birdseyetrifle · 16/03/2025 14:16

Fuck that shit OP!

They are all treating you like some casual fling not worthy of respect. I’m sure you know you deserve better than this.

notatinydancer · 16/03/2025 14:31

indicator2025 · 16/03/2025 14:02

I ended things yesterday.

I believe I saved myself from a lifetime of misery and a lifetime of feeling last place.

I think you did the right thing. What was his reaction ?

indicator2025 · 16/03/2025 14:34

OkPedro · 16/03/2025 14:11

How did he react?

He was fine to start with. He acknowledged that things were so much harder for me and that it wasn't a 'fair deal' - but kept saying there was no ill-intent behind his actions and it was just an 'oversight'. So the more we talked, the more defensive he got.

It almost felt like he was getting bored of hearing about it - which was lovely(!) He didn't seem to grasp - and I guess he still doesn't seem to grasp how weird his setup is. He sees absolutely nothing wrong with it/his actions at all. I had to really spell it out for him - and even then - he wavered a bit - only to give me some slight acknowledgment in the end. But it wasn't enough.

To be clear, the ex isn't the problem here. It's him. He hasn't set the stage or made room for anyone else to fully be in his life, especially since the Mom seems to think the reality is something else altogether. So he gets the best of both worlds - and I get the worst of both. So I had to leave.

I still thanked him for everything - as he came into my life when I was struggling with a bereavement - so for that, I will always be grateful. However, I do believe I saved myself from a lifetime of misery and a lifetime of feeling last place.

OP posts:
indicator2025 · 16/03/2025 15:03

notatinydancer · 16/03/2025 14:31

I think you did the right thing. What was his reaction ?

Please see comment above. I feel drained - but relieved.

OP posts:
Tosca23 · 16/03/2025 16:29

IMHO no room for you in this. Your partner is still enmeshed and being half a husband to his ex. It sounds like you are feeling excluded, ignored and unacknowledged. Head over to the steptalk website, you’ll get some great support and advice there. What do you want and need? Is this man or situation capable of giving you any of it? Or draw your line, tell your partner what you are and aren’t willing to accept and let the cards fall where they will…

Tosca23 · 16/03/2025 16:35

Sorry just read previous post that you ended it, sounds like it’s probably for the best.

Londongirl8922 · 16/03/2025 16:52

If you have both been together for 2 years then why are you not invited? Do you not get on with his mum? Or as your boyfriend not told anyone about you? I totally would of been gone if my boyfriend went on holiday with his ex wife , I think they both need to sit their kids down and be like look mum and dad are not together no more so we can’t have these family holidays but it doesn’t mean we both don’t love each of you anymore it just means mum and dad don’t love eachother anymore…

WearyAuldWumman · 16/03/2025 17:09

My late husband's children were adults who had left the family home by the time he and his ex separated. (She was seeing someone at work.)

Nevertheless, I found myself putting up with a lot for the sake of my husband's relationship with his children. I thought that it would get better. It didn't.

I'm sure that the children would claim that I hadn't been excluded from events, but I most certainly was. My husband wouldn't go on family outings etc without me, but there came a time when I was retired and he wasn't so - of course - I told him to go to things which were planned for days when I was working.

After I retired, both DH and I were simply not invited. (DH was disabled by then and couldn't have gone without me.) It took a while for the penny to drop with me.

I've deleted a great deal, because I was merailing. The point I want to make, OP, is that it never gets any better.

In your case, your BF is excluding you. That's simply wrong. Time to move on.

ETA I've just seen Tosca's comment. Agreed.

Tgfh · 16/03/2025 18:20

Well done OP.
Of course that was not easy but he is an awful twat to think this is acceptable.
There is a reason women avoid men with children, more trouble than they are worth.

Don't be one bit surprised if he tries to con you back into seeing him.

He doesn't deserve you.
You deserve the best treatment from a partner.
Remember that.

MeganM3 · 16/03/2025 18:32

Scale the relationship back. I’m not saying to completely end it if there are positives, but keep it as an option only. He clearly is in some sort of relationship dynamic with ex wife still.
Put yourself first, your own life and happiness. See him if it fits in / suits you, but don’t go over and above. See other people too - might be better options available and he isn’t ready to commit.

NameChangedOfc · 16/03/2025 19:09

What are you doing with this man? He is not respecting you. You feel like a mistress because that's how he treats you. Leave him and look for someone healthy without mommy issues.

NameChangedOfc · 16/03/2025 19:12

indicator2025 · 16/03/2025 14:02

I ended things yesterday.

I believe I saved myself from a lifetime of misery and a lifetime of feeling last place.

Sorry, OP, I'm one of those who jumps to comment having only read the op 🙏
You absolutely did the right thing: great for you! Good luck 💐

MeridianB · 16/03/2025 20:33

MrsSunshine2b · 15/03/2025 19:51

I'm a stepmum, and this is so wildly outside the bounds of what it acceptable and so incredibly disrespectful.

You are being treated like a bit on the side by him, his kids and his family.

Don't waste another minute of your time on this shitshow.

I came here to say this.

You sound lovely, OP - smart and emotionally intelligent. You deserve so much better.

Your partner should never have been going on multiple holidays with his ex when he was in a new relationship. His children are easily old enough to understand parents are not together and it’s actually confusing to blur these boundaries many years after a divorce. Failing to ensure you’re invited to his mother’s party is the last straw. It shows just where you stand with him and her.

I hope you find a man who treats you in the way you deserve. 🌺

TryingToBeLogical · 17/03/2025 00:03

Well done. What a loser he is, to not even understand he treated you poorly. Good grief.

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