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BF told me his EXW is going to his Mom's BD celebrations. Feel 'off'.

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indicator2025 · 15/03/2025 10:55

I've been seeing someone for two years. He is divorced with two children. The children are 17 and 13. I have never been married and have no children. They divorced six years ago.

My boyfriend and his ex-wife used to take pretty much every vacation together as a family. This includes Intl and domestic trips throughout the year. Both are STILL enmeshed with each others' families. Regarding the vacations; he said this was because his kids want them to keep doing family vacations - just the four of them.

I felt like he was having his cake and eating it too. I didn't want my boundaries trampled over in the name of 'love'. We can all be understanding, of course - but I didn't want my understanding to be seen as weakness. Last year, they took a family trip this Summer/charted a boat in Greece etc... and to be honest, I still think I should have ended the relationship at that point - as he said he 'could come see me for a weekend' after he was done with family time. It was a slap in the face - and I felt like a mistress/affair partner in truth.

This year they aren't doing any Summer vacations together. Largely because of all that went down last year. For those wondering if I was the problem - no. It's not about 'healthy co-parenting' - as despite all these trips they used to take; they never had a good time! Everyone was miserable - and they always fought. It was weird to hear about and defied all logic.

(As for me; I tend to work a lot in a taxing job so it's not like I don't have a life, family, friends etc... thankfully my life is full enough. I have no desire to insert myself into his family life and 'stake my claim' like some crazy person, but I do want to know if this can ever go anywhere).

This year; his Mom has a milestone birthday - and she has invited EXW. I am not invited. The Mom, EXW and my BF are all in a iMessage group chat and communicate 'as a family' regularly. The EXW will be joining my BF and their kids as they travel to his Mom's state this Summer for her birthday. Is it just me or is this weird? My BF texted me to 'tell' me this was happening - and acted as though he deserved a medal given that they weren't doing any International trips this year...

Before anyone pounces at me, I fully understand the need/desire to spend time with one's children. I understand that everyone has traditions that they may like to maintain etc... I also think it's great that divorced couples can get on well for the sake of their children... except these two don't even get on well - which makes the whole situation even more bizarre! He acknowledges the setup is 'unusual'. My logic is - if they want to 'play house' - and play 'happy families' - then why not stay a family? His argument was that the marriage became untenable - and he had no choice but to exit the situation - and all the family trips are for the sake of the kids and their wants. My counter-argument is that if everything was/is in the name of the kids - then why date and drag someone else into a messy situation?

I also fully understand that when dating someone who is divorced with children, it adds many layers of complications and brings enormous baggage to a relationship. It goes without saying that when dating someone with children - children should indeed come first! They should be a priority, so if anyone is going to paint me as a 'childfree bitch', please don't.

I respect his obligations - and he's a great father, but I can't help but feel he's essentially still married - especially given his Mom still wants his EXW at her birthday celebrations.

The core issue here isn’t about respecting his role as a father it’s about whether this relationship structure allows space for a genuine partnership with me.

As this is the first person I've dated who has had children, I guess my question is twofold. I know there's no real 'normal' as no two families are the same - but how normal is this? I say that with no ill intent or meanness in my heart.

Moreover, should I just jump ship - and find someone without all the baggage? If the relationship were to end, it wouldn't be malicious or drama-filled. I'm aware that two good people can simply not be compatible. At this point, I'm in a cycle of feeling conflicted all-too-often. The imbalance may just be too great.

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Mommamiaa · 15/03/2025 10:58

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Lovelysummerdays · 15/03/2025 11:03

I wouldn’t be overly thrilled tbh I am the ex wife in this situation and everything is pretty enmeshed. I do think it’s for the good of the children and they are very centred in our decision making.I’ve made the decision not to see anyone till the kids are older, I often think bringing a step parent in adds little for children but lots of difficulty.

I understand he’s probably doing his best for the children but you aren’t a priority and you should be so I’d move on personally.

rubberduck68 · 15/03/2025 11:04

It can be good for kids re. the enmeshment if the people involved are not controlling lunatics. But for you, the MIL inviting EXW and not you is very controlling, but what would be the end for me is that your BF has not stood up for you two as a couple, and after two years you are very established. I'd be off – he sounds spineless.

crackashark · 15/03/2025 11:04

End it, be with someone properly single.

Dolambslikemintsauce · 15/03/2025 11:07

You are allowing his ex to come before you on every way. .
End it today. Find someone who will put you first. Not after his dc and ex....

indicator2025 · 15/03/2025 11:07

Lovelysummerdays · 15/03/2025 11:03

I wouldn’t be overly thrilled tbh I am the ex wife in this situation and everything is pretty enmeshed. I do think it’s for the good of the children and they are very centred in our decision making.I’ve made the decision not to see anyone till the kids are older, I often think bringing a step parent in adds little for children but lots of difficulty.

I understand he’s probably doing his best for the children but you aren’t a priority and you should be so I’d move on personally.

Thank you for your post/reply. It's lovely to hear from someone on the 'other side' - and I totally agree with you. I think it's great (as I said in my OP) that he's a good father to his children - and if this setup helps them, great. However, it might not be great for a 'new' person, which is fair too.

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ohfourfoxache · 15/03/2025 11:07

WTF??

Run and don’t look back, this isn’t normal at all

marmitegirl01 · 15/03/2025 11:20

Yeah trust your gut on this one. He could have got you an invite too but he didn’t.
Bet he’s shocked when you end it tho!

fourelementary · 15/03/2025 11:23

Tbh the holiday thing and the group chat- weird. If ex wife and you were invited to the party that would be fine too. I still see my ex auntie in law as we got on really well and she is now called “auntie Jeannie” by my kids to DH- so she’s absolutely nothing to do with them biologically lol. But she’s family.
in that way- ex wife may always be in the family but not to the exclusion of you.

As is always said on mumsnet- you have a DP problem as it’s his lack of boundaries and standing up to his mum or standing up FOR you that’s the issue here.

babbi · 15/03/2025 11:30

Been a stepmom etc .. and a mum … I have done it all really …
save yourself a lot of grief and move on to someone fully single .
You sound balanced and practical , you really deserve better than this .

If I had my time again I would have chosen a different path .

Good luck

LizzieBananas · 15/03/2025 11:34

He doesn’t sound divorced to me.

indicator2025 · 15/03/2025 12:40

babbi · 15/03/2025 11:30

Been a stepmom etc .. and a mum … I have done it all really …
save yourself a lot of grief and move on to someone fully single .
You sound balanced and practical , you really deserve better than this .

If I had my time again I would have chosen a different path .

Good luck

Thank you. Can I ask what you would do differently if you had your time again? Would you not have got involved with someone with children? I ask only because I've heard that sentiment a few times now - and the answer varies.

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SparklyGlitterballs · 15/03/2025 12:47

Have you met his kids and his family? After two years together I'd have expected to have met his parents and he (and they) should be treating you as his gf/partner and inviting you to stuff, not the ex who has been divorced for 6 years. If he hasn't stood up and made a case for you then I'd be saying goodbye at this point.

indicator2025 · 15/03/2025 12:50

SparklyGlitterballs · 15/03/2025 12:47

Have you met his kids and his family? After two years together I'd have expected to have met his parents and he (and they) should be treating you as his gf/partner and inviting you to stuff, not the ex who has been divorced for 6 years. If he hasn't stood up and made a case for you then I'd be saying goodbye at this point.

Yes, of course. All met multiple times. The argument is that because its a 'milestone' birthday, she wants certain people there.

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hotandpermi · 15/03/2025 12:51

Ex wife here. Genuinely ditch this guy. Me and my ex get on fine because we have quite ridge boundaries and also because I don’t want to make his partner feel weird. It’s weird enough set up as it is without giving the kids the life version of parent trap.

daft thing for me to say op but are you sure that they have divorced ? And you have heard from others (not him) that she’s a ex.

indicator2025 · 15/03/2025 12:53

hotandpermi · 15/03/2025 12:51

Ex wife here. Genuinely ditch this guy. Me and my ex get on fine because we have quite ridge boundaries and also because I don’t want to make his partner feel weird. It’s weird enough set up as it is without giving the kids the life version of parent trap.

daft thing for me to say op but are you sure that they have divorced ? And you have heard from others (not him) that she’s a ex.

Yep! Separated in 2018/2019. Divorced finalised in 2020! I checked/verified... if you know what I mean!

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SwerveCity · 15/03/2025 12:53

Wow op, you’ve put up with a lot more than I would. This is beyond a joke. They’re divorced ffs.

Schoolchoicesucks · 15/03/2025 13:38

The holidays - I can see why this carried on at the start, but if they fall out on them and as the kids are older I would have expected this to phase out. The message chat with his mum is strange. The mum not inviting you to the party is rude.
DH and his mum are sending you a clear message that you are not an important part of his life. After 2 years if you expect to be more than a casual girlfriend, someone he is dating then this would be a deal breaker for me.

indicator2025 · 15/03/2025 13:50

Schoolchoicesucks · 15/03/2025 13:38

The holidays - I can see why this carried on at the start, but if they fall out on them and as the kids are older I would have expected this to phase out. The message chat with his mum is strange. The mum not inviting you to the party is rude.
DH and his mum are sending you a clear message that you are not an important part of his life. After 2 years if you expect to be more than a casual girlfriend, someone he is dating then this would be a deal breaker for me.

It carried on at the start - but continued until last year. They separated in 2018-2019 - and the divorce was only finalised in 2020. They took 2 International trips last year and 4 domestic trips last year. This year, he is saying that they won't do any international trips, but it might be a moot point - as I'm quite done with it all.

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Mommamiaa · 15/03/2025 14:02

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Yerblues · 15/03/2025 19:26

Move on. You deserve more. You really do.

MrsSunshine2b · 15/03/2025 19:51

I'm a stepmum, and this is so wildly outside the bounds of what it acceptable and so incredibly disrespectful.

You are being treated like a bit on the side by him, his kids and his family.

Don't waste another minute of your time on this shitshow.

jjpollypocket · 15/03/2025 22:56

WTF? Absolutely no way should you stay with this man! Lifetime of misery if you do!

Darby3785 · 15/03/2025 23:09

I'm a stepmum too and if anything like this was happening, I wouldn't be with my DH, I would have been gone at them planning holidays!

It is inappropriate, doesn't send a clear message to the children or family and its almost as if they are just keeping up with the status quo maybe to make his Mum happy! 🤭 if she doesn't want you there at a milestone birthday that is a very clear message, your not welcome. Do you want to be around people who disrespect you like this. Your DP doesn't sound like he is sticking up for you either!

Dump him and let him be miserable playing charades with his ex wife!

Edenmum2 · 15/03/2025 23:22

It’s not going to work for you OP, don’t waste any more time.

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