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Help! Why don't my partners children feel comfortable around me?

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surfmum2301 · 01/03/2025 11:30

Help! Advice/opinions wanted . . I recently met a new partner after being single for 5.5 years after separating with the father of my children. We've been together just shy of 18 months now. He is also a single parent and separated with his ex about 4 years ago. We both have very similar relationship histories - both have two children, 1 girl, 1 boy, both separated with the ex's due to them having addiction issues, both had full custody of our children for a long time and both have now re-instated a good co-parenting relationship with ex partners, who see the children regularly as both now in remission. Our children are all similar of ages 8, 9, 10 & 11 years.

We have really similar values and parenting styles, we are all really active people who love the outdoors, try to restrict screen time and promote good old fashioned board games, reading and arts and crafts . . you get the idea. My partner and I are also really well matched we have similar hobbies, intellect, eating and sleeping habits etc etc so all seems a pretty dreamy set up and there isn't a lot of negotiation or compromise required for when we hang out alone or with the children. The issue I'm having is that his kids don't seem to feel comfortable around me, they barely acknowledge that I exist. For instance when I come over they don't say hi or by to me, they don't engage in conversation with me, they rarely want to share things they've drawn or built or did at school with me. It's like I'm a complete stranger still. Right from the start we have parented really consciously to do it well for the kids - we started out doing short meet ups doing stuff the kids enjoy like inflatables at the swimming pool, jumping into the sea from the rocks, bike rides etc so all really positive stuff and something we are all on the same page with and can enjoy together. We went away on holiday a couple times too for a weekend and a whole week during the summer, again lots of action packed fun was had. I've always been careful not to force myself onto them and let them come to me in their own time, I don't try in any way to be their mum and just want to be a friend. I make sure I leave bed times to their dad when I stay over as I think that's a special time I don't want to intrude on. We do things with all the kids and we also do things when he or I don't have our own children so we can just concentrate on being with our partners kids. We don't live together and I only stay over a couple nights a week max, and usually arrive late after work so it's not like I'm intruding on their play time with their dad that they might resent me for. So I just don't get why they seem to feel completely indifferent towards me! When my partner comes to my house my kids will go to greet him at the door, they chatter non-stop to him and want to engage with him - what in my opinion is completely normal behaviour for this stage of our relationship. I would say my partners children are definitely more shy, and reserved than mine so I have tried to be mindful of this and reassured myself perhaps they are just quiet and they actually do like me - but this morning my partner had to take his son out so I was left alone in the house with his daughter for an hour first thing in the morning. I could hear her behind the door when she woke up in the morning so looked up and she was peaking around to see if I was in the room as she clearly didn't want to come in if I was there. When she saw me I gave her a big smile and wave and she ran off, it's like it's the first time she's ever met me! I just don't get it, they've had so much time to get comfortable around me and see that I'm a fun person who is up for doing all the things they love. I could understand it more if I was a completely different personality to their family values and they couldn't find a common ground with me.

I've tried talking to my partner about my concerns and we made a plan to try to do more things with just me and his kids and when I have made moves to initiate play with them, they will play with me but again it doesn't seem to move the relationship on to anything more secure and lasting. We have had a few issues with the kids falling out, as to be expected with 4 kids all the same age, but really nothing out of the ordinary. There's never been any arguments between me and their dad or I've not shouted at his kids or any behaviour that might make them untrusting of me. I'm happy to keep going as I feel as blended families go we have way less problems than many as we are all so well matched, but at the same time I feel really deflated and rejected and it is making me question whether it's always going to be like this and if it is whether I am okay with that as I don't think I am. It is still early days, as it's only been 18 months but by this stage I would have expected them to at least be happy to sit in a room with me! I really like his kids but I'm starting to feel demotivated and a bit awkward to try when I get nothing back.

Thanks for reading, I'm after any suggestions that might help to build a bond with his kids or similar experiences to help me feel like this is okay and normal and it's not me that's the problem. I don't have any other friends in a similar situation to ask.

OP posts:
Whyherewego · 01/03/2025 17:04

You sound very well adjusted OP and you've taken on board the perspectives given here and I wish you all the best for this relationship!

JollyHolly30 · 01/03/2025 17:06

Are his children girls? What about yours?

I think this makes a huge difference, so would be interested to find out.

BettyBardMacDonald · 01/03/2025 17:07

Unbelievable.

JollyHolly30 · 01/03/2025 17:08

JollyHolly30 · 01/03/2025 17:06

Are his children girls? What about yours?

I think this makes a huge difference, so would be interested to find out.

Please ignore my question. By the time I read your OP I'd forgotten what you'd said at the beginning. Apologies!

Do you find the boys are handling/accepting this change easier than the girls?

JollyHolly30 · 01/03/2025 17:08

BettyBardMacDonald · 01/03/2025 17:07

Unbelievable.

Can you elaborate?

tipsandtoes · 01/03/2025 17:13

HoppityBun · 01/03/2025 13:15

So I just don't get why they seem to feel completely indifferent towards me!

It’s because you’re nothing to them. They neither want nor need you. They want and need their dad. That’s their privilege and their right.

Come on a child if that age hiding behind the door and running away is odd behaviour

surfmum2301 · 01/03/2025 17:14

Yellowink · 01/03/2025 17:04

How on earth has it transpired that your children have gone to the house of their mother, your boyfriend’s ex, who is an addict?

and you went to the cinema with her and the children… was your boyfriend there?

She isn't currently an addict. She has been sober for over 2 years.

OP posts:
surfmum2301 · 01/03/2025 17:16

JollyHolly30 · 01/03/2025 17:08

Please ignore my question. By the time I read your OP I'd forgotten what you'd said at the beginning. Apologies!

Do you find the boys are handling/accepting this change easier than the girls?

No. I would say both of his children are equally less engaging with me than mine are with my partner.

OP posts:
surfmum2301 · 01/03/2025 17:19

Snorlaxo · 01/03/2025 17:01

This is a red flag - another adult ignoring the children’s feelings.

They do feel comfortable around me, we've had loads of fun together. I think what we have established in this thread is that they don't yet feel comfortable with me in their house, which is fair enough as that is their safe space. So I've taken this on board and am planning to back off and not stay over until they feel happy about this.

OP posts:
Yellowink · 01/03/2025 17:21

surfmum2301 · 01/03/2025 17:14

She isn't currently an addict. She has been sober for over 2 years.

Ok

but still doesn’t answer my question

Yellowink · 01/03/2025 17:21

They do feel comfortable around me

I suggest you read your own thread title op

surfmum2301 · 01/03/2025 17:29

Yellowink · 01/03/2025 17:21

They do feel comfortable around me

I suggest you read your own thread title op

Fair point! Today is the first day I've realised the daughter clearly doesn't feel comfortable with me in her home - as she was hiding behind the door. Prior to this I have felt like they don't seem super excited to see me when I come over etc but was never sure if this was due to shyness or dislike or just their reserved personality because when I initiate play they do engage and warm up to me but then the next time I go over it's back to the same so I was worrying that I didn't seem to be having much success in building lasting rapport. But when we have met up outside of the home we have had fun doing stuff together. They have never said to either parent as far as I'm aware that they don't like me or want me to not be there etc but reading this thread I definitely agree with peoples advice that they are giving signals that they are not ready for me to be in their home and how me being a potential threat to their dads attention and love etc may be impacting their feelings towards me

OP posts:
Ilovelurchers · 01/03/2025 17:34

OP, I can see you are well intentioned and you think your expectations will make these children happy, but why should his children feel any sort of bond with you really? They did not choose you - their father did. Yes, they should be polite - which they are. That really is all you can expect of them.

I am divorced from my daughter's dad - I have had two relationships since we split, my ex has had one. My daughter has been polite and respectful to all three partners, but nothing more than that - and why should we expect her to? They are nothing to her really other than our partners - we haven't forced any kind of close personal bonding with them on her (and I think she'd be pretty appalled if we did, as she hasn't liked any of our partners overly much - she hasn't hated them and they have been perfectly nice to her, but they aren't people she would choose to spend time with of her own volition.....)

Your relationship is with their dad, not with the kids themselves. And the more you try to force a relationship with them, I expect the more you will get on their nerves and stress them out...... Just let them be.

(I'd also consider honestly whether all the hearty activities are for their kids' benefit or yours and your partner's? Maybe the kids would rather chill and watch TV in their downtime.....)

surfmum2301 · 01/03/2025 17:36

surfmum2301 · 01/03/2025 17:19

They do feel comfortable around me, we've had loads of fun together. I think what we have established in this thread is that they don't yet feel comfortable with me in their house, which is fair enough as that is their safe space. So I've taken this on board and am planning to back off and not stay over until they feel happy about this.

I don't really see how your question has any relevance to my post. My parents have never been civil since separating when I was 15 and my mum still constantly slags off my dad and any new partner he may have had over the last 20 years, even as an adult this is not nice for me and my siblings. So I have tried my best to maintain civility with my own childrens father despite him not always making that easy and I think it's important for my partners children to see civility between their parents and any new partners so it doesn't become them vs us. I don't want them to feel that they have to choose between their parents for important events like birthdays, weddings, graduation or even school plays so in my opinion it's in the best interests for the children that they can see friendship and transparency between all the adults in their life. No one chooses to be an addict and I am not going to judge anyone who has picked themselves up from rock bottom and fought their way back to being the parent their children need them to be.

OP posts:
Yellowink · 01/03/2025 17:47

So as of right now, are at your boyfriend’s with your children?

KidsDoBetter · 01/03/2025 17:48

I can’t see the issue at all with OP & her kids having a cordial and involved relationship with her partners ex. Her being an addict is not relevant if she is sober and coping well in life.

My sister has a very good relationship with her partners ex-wife which is beneficial to her step daughter and her own child with her partner.

Yellowink · 01/03/2025 17:49

We don't live together and I only stay over a couple nights a week max, and usually arrive late after work

bringing your two two children over?

This sounds so disruptive fgs

KidsDoBetter · 01/03/2025 18:20

Yellowink · 01/03/2025 17:49

We don't live together and I only stay over a couple nights a week max, and usually arrive late after work

bringing your two two children over?

This sounds so disruptive fgs

If you read the op she states that her ex now coparents as he is sober. So I am presuming that some of the time OP is with her partner it’s just her. Particularly if she’s going over later.

Fiddlestixy · 01/03/2025 18:49

Op says she gets every other weekend child free

OP also says she goes around to her partner’s couple of times a week max usually late after work, which would certainly indicate the OP’s two children are dragged along too

BettyBardMacDonald · 01/03/2025 18:52

Iff a child is hiding behind the door I'd take that as a strong hint. Why force yourself into these kids lives? Haven't they been through enough??

So what if they eventually, under duress because they have been ordered to be 'nice' to their father's girlfriend, warm up and play with you? Clearly the adults in their lives aren't giving them much of a choice.

I have zero respect for people who do this to vulnerable children.

Fiddlestixy · 01/03/2025 18:53

k I will speak to my partner about taking a step back and not staying over in their home at all for now.

You stayed last night so you won’t now stay tonight or anymore?

Fiddlestixy · 01/03/2025 18:54

Have you told their father that his daughter hid behind the door from you when he went out op?

Anxioustealady · 01/03/2025 18:56

Re OP (and others) saying their dad pulls them up on being polite etc and they must say hi and bye to you, please remember this is their home, they should be allowed to relax and not be on best behaviour constantly.

How would you all like it as adults if someone was coming into your house all the time and you could never ask them to leave?

"When she saw me I gave her a big smile and wave and she ran off." The children sound more introverted than your children, that means they need time alone or at least without having to talk much, you'd probably get a better reaction if you'd just been in the room and carried on whatever you were doing.

The girl probably just wanted to get some breakfast in her pjs and watch TV, and there you were smiling and waving, probably wanted to talk to her the whole time.

I'm not trying to be mean but I'm an introvert too and had step family pushed on me, so I feel sad for these children. No one ever asks, you get no choices. Even if they did ask you'd say it's fine because you don't want your parent to be sad, but that's not a child's responsibility! I liked most of them as individuals but hated spending so much of my time to relax and do hobbies with mom or dad's new family on best behaviour.

I started just staying in my room all the time and I would only go into the kitchen to quickly cook when no one was around so ended up skipping dinner most nights as a teen girl, and I never ate breakfast. This led to an eating disorder which relates to lack of control, so it's very serious.

surfmum2301 · 01/03/2025 18:57

KidsDoBetter · 01/03/2025 18:20

If you read the op she states that her ex now coparents as he is sober. So I am presuming that some of the time OP is with her partner it’s just her. Particularly if she’s going over later.

Correct, at the moment I go over on the two nights every other weekend I don't have my children. Sometimes I don't even go then if I am seeing friends, and on weekends I do have my children I don't go over at all. So max of 2 nights in a week and often less than this. My children don't ever stay at his house and his children don't stay at mine.

OP posts:
Fiddlestixy · 01/03/2025 18:59

surfmum2301 · 01/03/2025 18:57

Correct, at the moment I go over on the two nights every other weekend I don't have my children. Sometimes I don't even go then if I am seeing friends, and on weekends I do have my children I don't go over at all. So max of 2 nights in a week and often less than this. My children don't ever stay at his house and his children don't stay at mine.

You said late “after work”

you were there this morning? Still there?