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RegrettableDisaster · 08/10/2024 18:38

I don't know how all this will come across.
Everything feels like a huge mess.
I may word this oddly as I don't want to give away details of genders etc because both my DH and Stepchild spend a huge amount of time online and you just never know. So some things have been changed or worded weirdly.
I have a 14 year old trans stepchild. They came to live with me and their Dad (my DH) when they were 12, after multiple "suicide attempts" whilst still living with the Mother. They'd been out of school for a year. The Mother was at her wits end and making everything worse. She was emotionally abusive or emotionally absent. Controlling. Imposed restrictive eating to keep child looking slim. Criticised child's friends. Drank far too much, far too regularly. Introduced many men to her children and openly used them for her own gain - e.g getting them to pay for holidays, equipment she wanted, or days out. So all the stepchildren were regularly exposed to what can only be described as a scattershot, dismal lifestyle where people are commodities.
Before SC came here, DH helped for one extra day a week on top of his access arrangements but it wasn't enough.
He shied away from being too available due to his ex wife being controlling and taking advantage. (really unusal requests like "lend me your car for work" "stay in my house for a week to look after me and the children because I'm too ill with flu"
Not to mention how she would communicate with me. She often tried to convince me that DH tried to get her back when DH and I got together. That he preferred skinny women. All sorts of weird stuff.
So in short, DH kept her at arms length because she regularly overstepped boundaries and exaggerated facts. It was always difficult to get a clear picture if how the kids were, and DH based a lot of their wellbeing on how they presented during his time with them.
Dhring this time, there was support from CAMHS for SC.
A tutor for education.
SC refused to engage with tutor, or CAMHS most of the time.
The Mother was manipulative with CAMHS workers (even started dating one of them who was engaged with my Stepchild, who subsequently lost their job)
The suicide attempts just seemed like they weren't real. Like they were ways to get attention or a need met, but not real.
We were told things like "child has slashed his neck 21 times" but there were tiny grazes not even as severe as a kitten scratch. Or things like "Child has drunk bleach - awaiting ambulance" and it would transpire he had swallowed half a capful and so wasn't even taken to hospital. As it mostly came from the Mother it was hard to know what was real, and she never let DH see any paperwork or anything. The final time it happened, the Mother text DH from hospital, saying SC was going to try again as soon as they left, and sounded very checked out of trying to help anymore, so DH rang hospital and asked for my SC to not be released from care. They agreed for a 2 night stay. The Mother was angry we had intervened. I'm not sure what her goal was.
During this hospital stay, SC regularly updated their WhatsApp status to hint that they had tried to KTS.
SC was a complete mess when they came to live with us. Had been removed by the police for attempting to hurt the Mother and placed with us, and it was requested by SS, that SC remain here, and as SC wanted to, it was sorted.
SC slept on the sofa in the living room for 6 months because there wasn't a bedroom available. SC declared the living room was their bedroom and nobody was to enter after 7.30pm as they wanted to call friends and have privacy, whuch was awkward as the living room is a walk through to the kitchen from the stairs. It sucked because there were times when SC would "have a meltdown" and then "need" everyone to stay out of the living room at odd times, especially during school breaks, so basically everyone started living in their rooms. I get how awful it was for SC to not have a bedroom. So, when it became obvious it was going to be permanent, DH and I took the living room and we swapped around my kids so Stepchild could have a bedroom. We slept downstairs for 9 more months. At least it meant we could allow unrestricted access at sensible hours and could encourage family time once more.
Still, everything had to be different - no more razors or bleach in the house. (to prevent self harm) No more pencil sharpeners. (to prevent self harm) Locked up medication. (to prevent overdose) No more spray deodorant or air fresheners. (to prevent substance abuse) No lighters for candles. (to prevent setting fires in the bedroom) Everything mentioned in brackets they had been doing at Mother's.
They still manahed to self harm a bunch, found ways - stolen scissors from my kids who tried to hide them, finding razors hidden at the back of cupboards and taking blades from them (that was fun when I went to shave my legs one evening)
Eventually we managed to find everything.
Then DH let them have their own PayPal account and they ordered blades from Ebay.
CAMHS have barely helped/been effective therapeutically.
During this time, my mother died, my 15 year old couldn't cope with all the masses of change, so went to live with their Dad. I cannot express how painful it is.

My DH, me, and my stepchild now live with my other three children. I have an 18 year old, a 14 year old and a 15 year old. (my now 16 year old is enjoying living with their Dad, has been there a year and I am happy they are okay)
But I'm finding this all very difficult now, 2 years on.
Believe me when I say I've been really supportive. I took courses in mental health first aid and mental health in teens to make sure I was at my best to cope.
I helped with communication with the Mother to arrange access. I supervised it at stepchilds request. Invited her into my home, despite her saying our house is disgusting/too small/a weird colour/looks like a hospital!
I ran to the rescue when things went wrong during what eventually led to unsupervised visits at the Mother's house, an hour away.
I have provided an ear, a shoulder, comfort, comfort food, learned all their favourite things and spent time with them. I have absolutely made them a part of the household as if they always lived here.
I am here all the time. Like I'm always home, unless I'm running family errands. DH works part time self employed during the evenings, about four or five evenings a week, has two or three days a week out of the house all afternoon/day/early evening seeing his other two children (same mother as his child who lives with us)
DH also sees friends, on and off, not with regularity but on average once a month.
My stepchild recently accused their mother of sexual abuse during their early years, and there was a resulting police investigation. Stepchild had a formal interview and so did the Mother. Nothing came of it. Stepchild now says they are worried they imagined it.
But now, their siblings (10 and 11) don't want to see my stepchild, because their Mother told them their sibling tried to ruin her life. She has also driven a wedge between me and them, meaning both the younger ones have refused to see me, my children, or their siblings since February this year. They won't visit us at our house, which is why DH spends so much more time out of the house, taking them out.
I have started to feel resentful of this situation and the fact it isn't improving.
I keep finding things online that stepchild posts that put them at risk/make them vulnerable. E.G they boasts openly about their self harm. They even posted a photo of fresh cuts on YouTube once, calling them "fresh babies". They made a post a couple months ago that they regularly "huff" and have done since they were 10, and everyone thinks they are just a funny, chill person when they are actually Hugh all the time.
They ordered a dildo online and then graphically described to my child about trying it out and training their (biological) genitalia to "take it" even talking about bleeding. My child told me where it was hidden and I threw it out. Stepchild even confronted my child about where it had gone, once discovered it was missing, and my child confessed they had told me about it and it was thrown away for stepchilds own safety and explained the level of appropriateness for a 14 year old and sex toys.
Once when stepchild came home angrily and upset from a visit with their Mother because she'd mentioned weight, stepchild grabbed a bunch of antidepressants and swallowed them, then got onto a group chat and told the group chat, "Goodbye" upsetting a tonne of teenagers online, including one of my children (the same one above) who was part of the chat, who rushed to tell me (as I was cooking dinner, unaware there had even been an issue)
My child has disclosed to me that SC engages in sex role plays online.
I have seen ads that are shown on my phone, related to content viewed on our IP address, that tell me SC reads BDSM sex stories. This was going on for months until I got sick of seeing the ads as I couldn't block them, so I had to ask all the children. SC confessed it was them. And admonished me for bringing it up.
These issues have tipped it over the edge for me. I feel like my children are being exposed to all this and it isn't fair.
My stepchild goes to a 3 hour per day alternative provision, a bit like school, but only a handful of kids, and very low pressure. They regularly don't bother with work and it almost seems like when they are pushed, they have a big explosion.
They recently told a staff member they tried to hang himself whilst staying overnight with their (very much loved) Nan. They then text DH and told him, hoping to prevent school from telling us I think. School have had to report it, of course. So I expect to hear from professionals once more.
I have a huge issue with this act because I discovered my friend dead from hanging when I was 15 and it's haunted me, despite therapy multiple times.
I am at a loss.
I feel for the child very much. I also feel for my own children.
I also dread stepchild being around. They aren't great at socialising- they tends to dominated a room and make everything about themself, to the point all of my children now appear to avoid spending time around SC, because they can't have a conversation with DH or me without SC interjecting. SC also doesn't seem capable of just "hanging out" - like, SC NEEDS attention.... can't just sit in a room, be chill, watch a bit of TV with the family or scroll through phone stuff and occasionally show each other or whatever - it has to be this like, SHOW, or has to have constant interaction like play a game with an adult for hours, or have an adult listen to them talk about themself. Not an exchange. A monologue.
They are also very selfish. One of my children (15) has shown relentless friendship and support, cooks for SC, lends SC money, listens to SC vent, gives SC advice, and tells us when SC might be unsafe. When my child recently had a friend over, they told SC that they would like said friend as they had lots in common. SC joked that they'd steal adi friend from my child. My childs response was that said friend is very loyal. SC then made a bracelet for this friend, and talked about all the topics SC knew the friend liked (they are autistic so have specific tastes) and said they were their favourites too. SC then kept entering my child's room with more gifts for the friend, and then refused to leave and it made my child feel left out, as SC did the whole domineering thing. I asked SC to give them space, as friend was here for a hangout with DC, and SCs response was "I am very very lonely and feel sad all by myself, it isn't my fault if friend likes me better" and then text DC and said "told you I'd steal friend" My child is now disengaging because it all became too much. DC still chats and hangs out with SC but it is much less, and DC doesn't engage with the venting. DC even approached DH and warned him he'd probably have to deal with more issues with SC, due to the lack of willingness to support as much on my DC part going forwards.
How awful.
DH is basically useless. Very good at feeling sorry for my SC. And himself. Ironically, he thinks everything I've told him about that I've seen online is SC fabricating, just saying it all. But 100% believes everything SC tells him IRL.
I feel like this is really affecting my marriage. I'm in therapy now and I'm going to talk to her about it but I really just need to hear that I'm not a total c**t, for feeling this way.

OP posts:
PrettyPickle · 08/10/2024 21:25

OP, there is no easy answer here as to be honest, you are damned if you do and damned if you don't.

You are right to speak out and all I can do is tell you that you are between a rock and a hard place, which you already know.

If you stay and find the strength to keep trying with your sc, then it maybe to the detriment of your own children, but if you leave, it will be at the expense of your marriage and sc.

I am at a loss as to what to say, except I know that you are doing your best and I am sending you big hugs.

YeahWellWhyNot · 08/10/2024 21:25

Get out get out get out.

Your kids need to you to this.

BodyKeepingScore · 08/10/2024 21:27

thesunisastar · 08/10/2024 19:26

They ordered a dildo online and then graphically described to my child about trying it out and training their (biological) genitalia to "take it" even talking about bleeding.

Jesus fucking christ OP, this is conversation is sexual abuse. Your DC has been sexually abused by your SC in their own home. What on earth are you thinking?

Absolutely this.

This is a form of sexual abuse and I'd be very very concerned about it.

Rain11 · 08/10/2024 21:27

I will never understand how some people can prioritise other people over their own kids. It should go against your instinct as a mum. Your main priority should be your own kids, your flesh and blood, you decided to bring them to this world, and you should protect them.

I find it absolutely shocking that you needed to 'see it written down' to understand how messed up this situation is... your story is frankly disturbing.

Your kids have been and still are exposed to this severely disturbed individual constantly. You are ruining their childhoods. Kids should feel protected by their parents. The truth is that no one is protecting your kids.

Why on earth would you need anyone to tell you what's obvious? It's right in front of your eyes. You are allowing your kids to be abused and traumatised because you are choosing to stay married to a man who is unable to get his life straight. Why would you care if he gets jealous?! How is that even important in comparison with your kids' well-being and happiness?

What you are doing to your kids is simply unforgivable, absolutely horrific.

DoYouReally · 08/10/2024 21:27

Your poor children.

They are being subjected to chaos and emotional abuse and drama through no fault of their own.

One of then even moved out FFS.

I don't even have words to address the dildo incident but bloody hell lady, you serious need to cop yourself on.

Your DH sounds absolutely fucking useless and that's well before you even mentioned the jealousy issue.

Do you really want a fractured relationship with your children going forward? One where they resent you for not talking action. One where they think you put everyone else - your husband, stepchild and yourself above them?

That's what you are doing and that's the result you are going to get.

Harsh perhaps but I'm not saying it to be nasty, I've saying it in the hope you will listen.

AnneLovesGilbert · 08/10/2024 21:28

OP, there is no easy answer here as to be honest, you are damned if you do and damned if you don't.

Respectfully, that’s bollocks. It’s her house. It’s the only home her kids have. She’s already on UC. She might be able to work more without having to babysit the dangerous step kid. The marriage isn’t worth much if it relies on her kids being sacrificed. The SC shouldn’t be her priority.

JLou08 · 08/10/2024 21:28

So sorry you are living that way 💓 You are not a c##t. You sound like an amazing person who has given so much to SC. Maybe too much, it sounds so difficult, I imagine it is a constant state of anxiety living like that along with guilt and sadness.
I think it's time to put you and your birth children first. I think if I was you I would be looking to move out with just the birth children. Maybe a clean break, maybe continuing the relationships with DH and SC whilst you and your children have your own safe space you can retreat to. The way things are now though does not sound sustainable.

calmandcollected101 · 08/10/2024 21:30

I'm heartbroken for your children.

Agree with above comments, why have you allowed this to be exposed to your children? For your 15 year old to move out surely that is the line?

I know you're trying to be supportive/do the right thing, however it seems you need to get out to protect your own children.

Seems a very unsafe home emotionally, mentally and physically for your children.

AliasGrace47 · 08/10/2024 21:31

I'm so sorry OP. You're an absolute heroine for doing this for so long, but you need to prioritise yourself & your kids. I feel really bad for your SC too, they have behaved badly but the root is the abuse inflicted by their mother. There must be a way to help, bit thay needs to be professionals & DH's job, not you.
I personally wonder if CSA did happen w someone, even if not Mother, esp if she has little known men round, & poor SC is speaking to strangers online. But that is something that you can't deal w, you need to put yourself first now.

SomeFinElse · 08/10/2024 21:32

He’s the jealous type

This 100% adds to what I was saying before about you needing to get out NOW….

Now not just for your poor DC’s but also now for you.

Why the fuck are you putting you and four poor DC’s through this? Living with a “jealous-type” man-child who’s incapable of parenting his own troubled teen, and who’s teen is traumatising your own precious DC’s??????

Sorry but I think your priorities are massively off.

Supersimkin7 · 08/10/2024 21:33

💐

You’re lovely
You don’t deserve this
Any of this.

Enough already. DH and SC need someplace to live.

Flextime · 08/10/2024 21:33

You need to get a grip OP and get your kids out of this . You are swept up in this and not seeing straight . Be a good mum and protect your own children number one , get them help and then work on yourself . This is not normal .

LavendersBlueeee · 08/10/2024 21:33

Felt awful for you after reading your OP, but now I just feel sorry for your DC
You are making excuses for your choices here: your choices being to prioritise your SC & DH
I don’t know what you want everyone to say, but your life and your DCs lives aren’t going to improve if things carry on as they are. You need to leave…but you already know that.
Your DC are likely going to need a lot of therapy in the future and may well cut you off when they’re older for subjecting them to this life and not prioritising them.

snoopsy · 08/10/2024 21:33

I have read your main post but I am sorry I can't read everything you have said in subsequent posts because it is very very long. The housing/financial situation is not clear. Is there a financial reason why you are putting up with all of this?
You have some very very troubling people-pleasing tendencies. Its not your job to be responsible for SC, nor all the things you do for DH.
You are fixated on DH being a role model for your kids, who like him You need to look at the whole picture: this dysfunctional set-up is not modelling any normal behaviour. Its fine for them to like him, but that doesn't mean they have to put up with all the chaos that comes with him.
I am at a loss as to what to say to you.
Why are you doing this to your kids?
I think you need some counselling so you don't make repeat mistakes with similar men in the future. What happened in your childhood that makes you think you need to accommodate all of this? Did you have a chaotic childhood and you're seeking to re-create that.
I am so confused. Stop fixating on the SC. They are making themselves the centre of everything, just like their mother. They want control of everyone's happiness - if they're not happy, nobody can be happy. They want control of the atmosphere so everyone is swimming in chaos.
Get yourself out of this situation. Prioritise YOUR kids, and YOUR sanity. Do some work on what happened in your childhood that leads you to let everyone tread all over your boundaries and your kids boundaries.
Do you have some kind of martyr complex where you need to save everyone? Because you're trying to save SC and DH (who are beyond saving), and letting your own kids drown. Stop focusing on the SC and DH who aren't helping themselves, and focus on your kids who need you.
Look after yourself, and your kids, please.

AliasGrace47 · 08/10/2024 21:34

Oh God I didn't see SC spoke to your kids about the dildo. Whatever abuse they have suffered is no excuse for that. Your children need to be protected, I know it's v hard but this is essential. Otherwise there will just be more traumatised children, & more trauma for you. SC needs professionals to bring them back, you've done all you can.

Allthehorsesintheworld · 08/10/2024 21:35

I think you also have to think forward 5 years. Your dc will probably move out, to Uni or flat shares etc., Is sc going to move on? Or will you still be dealing with this alone in 5 years time, 10 years time? Will your dc want to bring friends home ? I think you and they are heading for a disastrous future relationship. I’m sorry your sc is ill but by the situations you describe I think this is beyond your management and they need full time professional intervention.

krustykittens · 08/10/2024 21:35

OP, your husband and his ex are allowing YOU to parent their seriously disturbed child, at the cost of your own mental health and your relationship with your own children. This pair are sucking you dry, boot him out and tell him to take on the responsibility of his child for himself. The dildo conversation is sexual abuse, your sc should not be allowed around your children. Add in that stuff about his jealousy and frankly, he sounds abusive. You tried to step up but cost is too great. Your own children come first.

Gonegirl7 · 08/10/2024 21:35

By all means stay in a relationship with your partner if you want to but you clearly need to live separately. And should have done years ago

MaidOfSteel · 08/10/2024 21:36

What an awful situation. For everyone involved.

You have tried everything, OP. You surely can't think you're bailing if you tell your husband to leave now? You have done so much for him and your stepkids. I imagine you are absolutely drained, of compassion, energy, sympathy, love, everything.

You really must take back your life and your home, to protect yourself and your children. You need to start the hard task of repairing your lives.

newfriend05 · 08/10/2024 21:36

HangDai · 08/10/2024 19:13

You need to remove yourself from this absolute mess.

This .. and take your children with you .. leave your husband to deal with the absolute chaos of his first family

Wallywobbles · 08/10/2024 21:38

The thing is OP is that you are setting your kids up to have this kind of fucked up life by making this their normal. Would you really want your kids to have your life? With the same martyred life as you?

Secradonugh · 08/10/2024 21:39

I'm going to phrase things from the viewpoint of the SC. They are crying out for attention and being allowed to have control. They have previously learnt that to get attention and what they want, is to do 'disturbing' things. They've been abused by their mum, and then kicked out and disowned. They've been forced to move in with their dad's wife, and had to sleep on the sofa, had people wandering through their room. Then because others couldn't respect their boundary they were forced to move into a bedroom. They are surrounded by others qhp don't seem to understand. SM is fine but Dad seems hot and cold about caring.
In my book as I paint this picture in my mind, I start to think that their dad is the problem.
Even if you as a step mum do everything right then it's no substitute for there dad doing it right.
As a side point, did CAMHS / social tell you to remove sharp objects to stop self harm,? It's really not the right way to deal with it. Far better to let them have a clean blade, and when they self harm to have an agreement to help them with bandages and steristrips. It then allows them to feel in control of their body, but also creates a trust relationship with the person bandaging them. Tablets should be locked up because it's an instant thing, but self harming is a completely different thing.

sandyhappypeople · 08/10/2024 21:39

I think you need to think of the future.

Will you turn around in 5 years, after 5 more years of this horrendous living situation and feel glad you've stuck it out, or are you going to wish you had called time on it while your kids were young enough to still have some semblance of normality?

Really, really, think about it.

Coffeebutter · 08/10/2024 21:39

This is all too much!
I would leave the husband and get rid of him and his problem life that is haunting you.
What about your kids , why do they deserve to be around this mess??!!

nobody is worth this, get your DH to move out and take care of his own kid and issues alone.

you seem like a very caring person who has frankly gone above and beyond.

run, run as fast as you can because this is all batshit crazy stuff …

sandyhappypeople · 08/10/2024 21:40

If your husband won't entertain living apart because he thinks you'll be out shagging every man you come across then is he really worth this sacrifice you are all making?