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RegrettableDisaster · 08/10/2024 18:38

I don't know how all this will come across.
Everything feels like a huge mess.
I may word this oddly as I don't want to give away details of genders etc because both my DH and Stepchild spend a huge amount of time online and you just never know. So some things have been changed or worded weirdly.
I have a 14 year old trans stepchild. They came to live with me and their Dad (my DH) when they were 12, after multiple "suicide attempts" whilst still living with the Mother. They'd been out of school for a year. The Mother was at her wits end and making everything worse. She was emotionally abusive or emotionally absent. Controlling. Imposed restrictive eating to keep child looking slim. Criticised child's friends. Drank far too much, far too regularly. Introduced many men to her children and openly used them for her own gain - e.g getting them to pay for holidays, equipment she wanted, or days out. So all the stepchildren were regularly exposed to what can only be described as a scattershot, dismal lifestyle where people are commodities.
Before SC came here, DH helped for one extra day a week on top of his access arrangements but it wasn't enough.
He shied away from being too available due to his ex wife being controlling and taking advantage. (really unusal requests like "lend me your car for work" "stay in my house for a week to look after me and the children because I'm too ill with flu"
Not to mention how she would communicate with me. She often tried to convince me that DH tried to get her back when DH and I got together. That he preferred skinny women. All sorts of weird stuff.
So in short, DH kept her at arms length because she regularly overstepped boundaries and exaggerated facts. It was always difficult to get a clear picture if how the kids were, and DH based a lot of their wellbeing on how they presented during his time with them.
Dhring this time, there was support from CAMHS for SC.
A tutor for education.
SC refused to engage with tutor, or CAMHS most of the time.
The Mother was manipulative with CAMHS workers (even started dating one of them who was engaged with my Stepchild, who subsequently lost their job)
The suicide attempts just seemed like they weren't real. Like they were ways to get attention or a need met, but not real.
We were told things like "child has slashed his neck 21 times" but there were tiny grazes not even as severe as a kitten scratch. Or things like "Child has drunk bleach - awaiting ambulance" and it would transpire he had swallowed half a capful and so wasn't even taken to hospital. As it mostly came from the Mother it was hard to know what was real, and she never let DH see any paperwork or anything. The final time it happened, the Mother text DH from hospital, saying SC was going to try again as soon as they left, and sounded very checked out of trying to help anymore, so DH rang hospital and asked for my SC to not be released from care. They agreed for a 2 night stay. The Mother was angry we had intervened. I'm not sure what her goal was.
During this hospital stay, SC regularly updated their WhatsApp status to hint that they had tried to KTS.
SC was a complete mess when they came to live with us. Had been removed by the police for attempting to hurt the Mother and placed with us, and it was requested by SS, that SC remain here, and as SC wanted to, it was sorted.
SC slept on the sofa in the living room for 6 months because there wasn't a bedroom available. SC declared the living room was their bedroom and nobody was to enter after 7.30pm as they wanted to call friends and have privacy, whuch was awkward as the living room is a walk through to the kitchen from the stairs. It sucked because there were times when SC would "have a meltdown" and then "need" everyone to stay out of the living room at odd times, especially during school breaks, so basically everyone started living in their rooms. I get how awful it was for SC to not have a bedroom. So, when it became obvious it was going to be permanent, DH and I took the living room and we swapped around my kids so Stepchild could have a bedroom. We slept downstairs for 9 more months. At least it meant we could allow unrestricted access at sensible hours and could encourage family time once more.
Still, everything had to be different - no more razors or bleach in the house. (to prevent self harm) No more pencil sharpeners. (to prevent self harm) Locked up medication. (to prevent overdose) No more spray deodorant or air fresheners. (to prevent substance abuse) No lighters for candles. (to prevent setting fires in the bedroom) Everything mentioned in brackets they had been doing at Mother's.
They still manahed to self harm a bunch, found ways - stolen scissors from my kids who tried to hide them, finding razors hidden at the back of cupboards and taking blades from them (that was fun when I went to shave my legs one evening)
Eventually we managed to find everything.
Then DH let them have their own PayPal account and they ordered blades from Ebay.
CAMHS have barely helped/been effective therapeutically.
During this time, my mother died, my 15 year old couldn't cope with all the masses of change, so went to live with their Dad. I cannot express how painful it is.

My DH, me, and my stepchild now live with my other three children. I have an 18 year old, a 14 year old and a 15 year old. (my now 16 year old is enjoying living with their Dad, has been there a year and I am happy they are okay)
But I'm finding this all very difficult now, 2 years on.
Believe me when I say I've been really supportive. I took courses in mental health first aid and mental health in teens to make sure I was at my best to cope.
I helped with communication with the Mother to arrange access. I supervised it at stepchilds request. Invited her into my home, despite her saying our house is disgusting/too small/a weird colour/looks like a hospital!
I ran to the rescue when things went wrong during what eventually led to unsupervised visits at the Mother's house, an hour away.
I have provided an ear, a shoulder, comfort, comfort food, learned all their favourite things and spent time with them. I have absolutely made them a part of the household as if they always lived here.
I am here all the time. Like I'm always home, unless I'm running family errands. DH works part time self employed during the evenings, about four or five evenings a week, has two or three days a week out of the house all afternoon/day/early evening seeing his other two children (same mother as his child who lives with us)
DH also sees friends, on and off, not with regularity but on average once a month.
My stepchild recently accused their mother of sexual abuse during their early years, and there was a resulting police investigation. Stepchild had a formal interview and so did the Mother. Nothing came of it. Stepchild now says they are worried they imagined it.
But now, their siblings (10 and 11) don't want to see my stepchild, because their Mother told them their sibling tried to ruin her life. She has also driven a wedge between me and them, meaning both the younger ones have refused to see me, my children, or their siblings since February this year. They won't visit us at our house, which is why DH spends so much more time out of the house, taking them out.
I have started to feel resentful of this situation and the fact it isn't improving.
I keep finding things online that stepchild posts that put them at risk/make them vulnerable. E.G they boasts openly about their self harm. They even posted a photo of fresh cuts on YouTube once, calling them "fresh babies". They made a post a couple months ago that they regularly "huff" and have done since they were 10, and everyone thinks they are just a funny, chill person when they are actually Hugh all the time.
They ordered a dildo online and then graphically described to my child about trying it out and training their (biological) genitalia to "take it" even talking about bleeding. My child told me where it was hidden and I threw it out. Stepchild even confronted my child about where it had gone, once discovered it was missing, and my child confessed they had told me about it and it was thrown away for stepchilds own safety and explained the level of appropriateness for a 14 year old and sex toys.
Once when stepchild came home angrily and upset from a visit with their Mother because she'd mentioned weight, stepchild grabbed a bunch of antidepressants and swallowed them, then got onto a group chat and told the group chat, "Goodbye" upsetting a tonne of teenagers online, including one of my children (the same one above) who was part of the chat, who rushed to tell me (as I was cooking dinner, unaware there had even been an issue)
My child has disclosed to me that SC engages in sex role plays online.
I have seen ads that are shown on my phone, related to content viewed on our IP address, that tell me SC reads BDSM sex stories. This was going on for months until I got sick of seeing the ads as I couldn't block them, so I had to ask all the children. SC confessed it was them. And admonished me for bringing it up.
These issues have tipped it over the edge for me. I feel like my children are being exposed to all this and it isn't fair.
My stepchild goes to a 3 hour per day alternative provision, a bit like school, but only a handful of kids, and very low pressure. They regularly don't bother with work and it almost seems like when they are pushed, they have a big explosion.
They recently told a staff member they tried to hang himself whilst staying overnight with their (very much loved) Nan. They then text DH and told him, hoping to prevent school from telling us I think. School have had to report it, of course. So I expect to hear from professionals once more.
I have a huge issue with this act because I discovered my friend dead from hanging when I was 15 and it's haunted me, despite therapy multiple times.
I am at a loss.
I feel for the child very much. I also feel for my own children.
I also dread stepchild being around. They aren't great at socialising- they tends to dominated a room and make everything about themself, to the point all of my children now appear to avoid spending time around SC, because they can't have a conversation with DH or me without SC interjecting. SC also doesn't seem capable of just "hanging out" - like, SC NEEDS attention.... can't just sit in a room, be chill, watch a bit of TV with the family or scroll through phone stuff and occasionally show each other or whatever - it has to be this like, SHOW, or has to have constant interaction like play a game with an adult for hours, or have an adult listen to them talk about themself. Not an exchange. A monologue.
They are also very selfish. One of my children (15) has shown relentless friendship and support, cooks for SC, lends SC money, listens to SC vent, gives SC advice, and tells us when SC might be unsafe. When my child recently had a friend over, they told SC that they would like said friend as they had lots in common. SC joked that they'd steal adi friend from my child. My childs response was that said friend is very loyal. SC then made a bracelet for this friend, and talked about all the topics SC knew the friend liked (they are autistic so have specific tastes) and said they were their favourites too. SC then kept entering my child's room with more gifts for the friend, and then refused to leave and it made my child feel left out, as SC did the whole domineering thing. I asked SC to give them space, as friend was here for a hangout with DC, and SCs response was "I am very very lonely and feel sad all by myself, it isn't my fault if friend likes me better" and then text DC and said "told you I'd steal friend" My child is now disengaging because it all became too much. DC still chats and hangs out with SC but it is much less, and DC doesn't engage with the venting. DC even approached DH and warned him he'd probably have to deal with more issues with SC, due to the lack of willingness to support as much on my DC part going forwards.
How awful.
DH is basically useless. Very good at feeling sorry for my SC. And himself. Ironically, he thinks everything I've told him about that I've seen online is SC fabricating, just saying it all. But 100% believes everything SC tells him IRL.
I feel like this is really affecting my marriage. I'm in therapy now and I'm going to talk to her about it but I really just need to hear that I'm not a total c**t, for feeling this way.

OP posts:
SeulementUneFois · 16/10/2024 12:54

The very simple (but expect to be hugely resisted) first step is that your DH is the one to stop working/WFH/curtail his hobbies and comings and goings so that he stays in the house with the SC, his kid.

And you get to leave the house, go to work, go out, take your DCs out etc.

But unfortunately I don't think that will happen because you and your DCs are the designated support humans for the SC, and your DH and SC will fight tooth and nail against any changes to that.

DuckbilledSplatterPuff · 16/10/2024 13:37

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DuckbilledSplatterPuff · 16/10/2024 13:52

Hi OP> I've asked MN to delete my post above as I think I may have got it mixed up with a very similar post and I apologise for this.

DuckbilledSplatterPuff · 16/10/2024 13:54

One of the things I mentioned was to suggest that the DP and SC do go to his mum's for a while to give you a break as you are in a very difficult situation.

LabFab · 16/10/2024 14:47

I'm really glad you're updating OP. I think your story has touched a lot of us here. The only thing I would add - through my own experience - is that teenage kids (and by this, I'm talking about your DC, and not SC) - can absorb a LOT on behalf of a loved parent.

I was that kid, saying how fine I was, how I was 'tuning things out' and trying, in my own quiet way, to support my much-loved parent by having no needs of my own. I learned that I should not be any trouble because there was enough of that.

My parent would have said EXACTLY what you're saying about your DC. She would have sworn that she knew me, that I would go to her with any issues, that I was really fine and able to distance myself from the stress etc.

I thought it was true as well. But I was 15 and knew NOTHING. It's taken decades to realise how harmful it was to live with that tension in my own home, a sense that unrest, or strangeness, discomfort, aggression, might be tonight, or might not.

You're saying SO many things, and leaning hard into how your DC would be devastated if your DH left. They would undoubtedly be upset, but living a life free of all this hyper-focus on your SC, the violent outbursts, the awful stuff they have 'shared' with your DC and so on, might just outweigh that. Kids need positive attention and a calm, secure, safe, loving environment that is free of threat. 'Disengagement' is 'having to cope.'

I don't understand why your DH and SC cannot go and live with the grandparent for this period - not to split up, but to give your DC chance to breathe freely again, for you to be able to focus on THEM, without the pressure of '...or it's divorce' hanging over the whole thing (more pressure on your DC to 'be fine' so DH gets to stay). Surely it can be framed as a period of respite and decompression for everyone?

I know you're in the eye of the storm, and it's a wretched place to be, but I cannot see anywhere that your own DC are being put first STILL, and after all of this, they deserve to be.

It is absolutely baffling to me why - despite the lengthy and articulate explanations - your DC cannot come first now, as in right now.

DuckbilledSplatterPuff · 16/10/2024 15:00

What @LabFab said - 100 per cent

AliasGrace47 · 16/10/2024 18:39

LabFab, yes definitely. My mum has been stalked and is v isolated, and as a teen I saw (and still see) it as my duty to look out for her. She does look after me, and it's not her fault she's vulnerable, but having a parent constantly fragile and upset is a weight on the mind.
I know many children are horrible to good parents, but more needs to be said for the teens who try to be strong for a loved but vulnerable parent. Op, teenagers cannot be properly happy until they know their parents are happy, secure and able to support them. You are not a fragile elderly parent, but a middle-aged adult capable of taking care of themselves and your children. You have clearly had a lot of trauma, and I have a lot of sympathy, but ultimately you chose to have children, and when you do that, you promise to care for them, not be cared for by them.

RegrettableDisaster · 16/10/2024 21:01

AliasGrace47 · 16/10/2024 18:39

LabFab, yes definitely. My mum has been stalked and is v isolated, and as a teen I saw (and still see) it as my duty to look out for her. She does look after me, and it's not her fault she's vulnerable, but having a parent constantly fragile and upset is a weight on the mind.
I know many children are horrible to good parents, but more needs to be said for the teens who try to be strong for a loved but vulnerable parent. Op, teenagers cannot be properly happy until they know their parents are happy, secure and able to support them. You are not a fragile elderly parent, but a middle-aged adult capable of taking care of themselves and your children. You have clearly had a lot of trauma, and I have a lot of sympathy, but ultimately you chose to have children, and when you do that, you promise to care for them, not be cared for by them.

that's a little much. I do care for my children. I am strong for them. Just because I wrote a wobbly post doesn't mean I'm some sort of floppy marshmallow who disintegrates at the slightest issue.

My trauma is not my children's problem and I'm not making it theirs. I'm doing my best for them in a difficult situation.

I wrote on here to try to ask for perspective and support.

I don't know what the fixation is of some Mumsnetters to get women to bin off people. Is it a power thing?

I've mentioned lots of things I'm doing and starting to try and sort this mess out.

My children aren't on the edge of insanity, and just because I write a lot about SC it's because he is the issue, not my DC.

They would be angry and hurt if I made DH leave. I'm simply not prepared to put them through it until I absolutely have to.

DH is trying. It's been a week and he's got used to the fact that I meant every word. If things don't change, they will be gone. If things change, they will stay.

DC aren't sitting watching this play out like it's some kind of movie. As I've said before they aren't aware of a lot of things.

I don't see what else I can say.

I won't be labelled as some kind of abuser or negligent parent when I am the opposite of that. For all of the children involved.

I'm going to delete this thread, I think. I need to sort this out in the real world, with real people who know me, who know my kids, who know my husband, and who can actually help rather than judge, smite, and otherwise generally try to lacerate me for wanting to make my marriage work and for all the kids to be okay.

Go on. Smite me now.

OP posts:
localnotail · 16/10/2024 21:21

OP, of course go ahead and delete the thread if you want, but maybe first stop and think about it rationally? You have here a bunch of people who know nothing about you or your family, and who only go by what you are telling them. They are not your friends or your enemies, but simply people responding to what you have presented. And most of them feel you are allowing your SC and DH run your household in a way that is creating an abnormal and unhealthy environment for your own DC, and that your SC is very unwell and potentially dangerous to herself and others. It is really obvious to everyone but you.

Gently, what is the point of asking a question f you are not prepared to hear the answers you might not like? Feedback here is not a personal attack on you, but simply a horrified response of people sympathising with your poor DC.

lovemetomybones · 16/10/2024 21:24

I do feel like this thread is going in circles. Each update has the same response. You articulate fluently how you support your SC, which is commendable, and if you had no children of your own, or your own children were not suffering then I would be all for that approach. And they are suffering because your solution is therapy for all of them.

From your own words your DH has not made huge changes to sort this out, it's taken him a week for him to know you mean business.

I understand it's challenging to read critical posts but the vast majority of critical posts are telling you in a mindful way that other solutions might be a better approach. Why post on here if you don't want to hear advice?

SquirrelSoShiny · 16/10/2024 21:34

RegrettableDisaster · 16/10/2024 21:01

that's a little much. I do care for my children. I am strong for them. Just because I wrote a wobbly post doesn't mean I'm some sort of floppy marshmallow who disintegrates at the slightest issue.

My trauma is not my children's problem and I'm not making it theirs. I'm doing my best for them in a difficult situation.

I wrote on here to try to ask for perspective and support.

I don't know what the fixation is of some Mumsnetters to get women to bin off people. Is it a power thing?

I've mentioned lots of things I'm doing and starting to try and sort this mess out.

My children aren't on the edge of insanity, and just because I write a lot about SC it's because he is the issue, not my DC.

They would be angry and hurt if I made DH leave. I'm simply not prepared to put them through it until I absolutely have to.

DH is trying. It's been a week and he's got used to the fact that I meant every word. If things don't change, they will be gone. If things change, they will stay.

DC aren't sitting watching this play out like it's some kind of movie. As I've said before they aren't aware of a lot of things.

I don't see what else I can say.

I won't be labelled as some kind of abuser or negligent parent when I am the opposite of that. For all of the children involved.

I'm going to delete this thread, I think. I need to sort this out in the real world, with real people who know me, who know my kids, who know my husband, and who can actually help rather than judge, smite, and otherwise generally try to lacerate me for wanting to make my marriage work and for all the kids to be okay.

Go on. Smite me now.

OP I wish you and your family luck.

SquirrelSoShiny · 16/10/2024 21:36

SquirrelSoShiny · 08/10/2024 22:19

Your SC can no longer live with you end of. If that means DH goes too so be it.

Your SC sounds traumatised and possibly ND too. You cannot meet this child's needs. They will take your whole family down. Bluntly get them out of your home. I'm amazed SS haven't intervened already frankly.

I'm going to quote my own post and sign off this thread. Best of luck OP. I don't envy your dilemma, sincerely.

LabFab · 16/10/2024 21:43

localnotail · 16/10/2024 21:21

OP, of course go ahead and delete the thread if you want, but maybe first stop and think about it rationally? You have here a bunch of people who know nothing about you or your family, and who only go by what you are telling them. They are not your friends or your enemies, but simply people responding to what you have presented. And most of them feel you are allowing your SC and DH run your household in a way that is creating an abnormal and unhealthy environment for your own DC, and that your SC is very unwell and potentially dangerous to herself and others. It is really obvious to everyone but you.

Gently, what is the point of asking a question f you are not prepared to hear the answers you might not like? Feedback here is not a personal attack on you, but simply a horrified response of people sympathising with your poor DC.

I agree with all of this.

OP, people have reacted like this because of what you have said and described, not because they want to attack you.

You're being reductive about the impact of all this on your DC because it's hard and painful.

They would be angry and hurt if I made DH leave. I'm simply not prepared to put them through it until I absolutely have to

It WAS about SC leaving, because of the catastrophic effect they are having on your household, the awful things that are happening, and on your DC wellbeing. Like I said upthread, your last few posts have changed tone and lean hard into not wanting to inflict DH's departure on your DC.

So - as so many posters have suggested - why not a respite period where DH and SC live with grandma? Why not just see how your DC respond to that? Change can happen elsewhere, and give your DC a break from all this and have your focus back on THEIR wellbeing.

I honestly don't think you're seeing things clearly - unsurprising, given the intensity of it all. We're not monsters trying to hurt you: we're (probably mostly) mums, parents, carers of young people who we love, and we're all probably imagining our own beloved DC in that situation, and really, really wanting to help them.

YouZirName · 16/10/2024 22:16

Of course now OP isn't getting the answers she wants it's time to bin off the thread 😅

Your children are suffering by you staying in this relationship, and as much as you blew to that they'd be devastated if you left, being a parent means making the tough decisions, and taking in to account what's best for your children. It sure as hell isn't what they're living in now.

grannypants22 · 16/10/2024 22:45

YouZirName · 16/10/2024 22:16

Of course now OP isn't getting the answers she wants it's time to bin off the thread 😅

Your children are suffering by you staying in this relationship, and as much as you blew to that they'd be devastated if you left, being a parent means making the tough decisions, and taking in to account what's best for your children. It sure as hell isn't what they're living in now.

Your first comment is nasty and unnecessary.

I have posted on here for advice in times when I've felt vulnerable and the massive pile ons and personal attacks haven't helped me, quite the opposite.

Op seems switched on. She knows what the issues are and has put plans in place to try and improve them. Just because she isn't throwing her whole family away because a bunch of strangers on the internet told her to it doesn't make her a bad person or mother.

Op you are right. Real life is not MN and while you've had some helpful advice, you've also had a lot of nasty, unhelpful comments from people. Do what you need to do to protect protect yourself and your family.

Zebracat · 16/10/2024 22:50

I m so sorry, I think you are getting a hard time, and a lot of projection. Step parenting is so hard- responsibility without authority. I think you’ve done well to ask your children how they feel, and to lay down some ground rules for your Dh. Please please go with your instincts and establish a cool, disinterested approach to your stepchilds shenanigans. And please talk to that child about what they want, and about the limits of your tolerance. Much better than a traumatic breakdown in the arrangement. Good luck💐💐

AliasGrace47 · 17/10/2024 01:42

Op, I am sorry, I don't want to imply that you are putting your trauma onto your children overtly. You are in a v difficult situation and it's v hard to think when surrounded by the sort of issues your SC is exhibiting.
But however much you try to protect them from the problems what you are combating, they will pick up on the atmosphere and your mood, bc you are human under intense pressure, and they may well feel they should play down their impact as you have enough to deal w. I don't want to condemn you foe trying to help your SC, but I second pps that they cannot be the priority anymore. You say your children are unaware of a lot of what they do, but you may also be unaware of your SC's behaviour to them.
Your SC being female and your DC male doesn't mean SC could not potentially abuse them.
It is good you ate addressing the problem and establishing boundaries.

AliasGrace47 · 17/10/2024 01:51

I get that you feel your DH had empathy for your DC having problems, so you should do the same fie SC.
But presumably your DC's issues were not so extreme? The inappropriate sexual behaviour and suicide attempts are huge red flags.

wandawaves · 17/10/2024 02:47

So... did you make up all that stuff in your OP then? Because I just re-read your OP, and there is a fuck of a lot of stuff that your kids are being exposed to. But now all of a sudden your saying they're not exposed to most of it and your kids are actually perfectly ok (including the one who fled to a new house). Maybe re-read your OP and try to tell yourself again that your kids aren't impacted? Including this bit, that you wrote yourself?

"I feel like my children are being exposed to all this and it isn't fair."

Josette77 · 17/10/2024 04:55

Can I ask what relationship your oldest had with dsc?

Is it possible what happened with your son exasperated your dsc issues?

Not that that changes things, I'm just curious.

almondmilk123 · 17/10/2024 07:48

Aargh I'm so with you OP!

People are taking a cry of pain at an extremely stressful moment as the whole picture.

They also love to say its completely obvious what she should do. Even if it was - and it isn't if you read all the OPs post, not just her first - it's a process to get to that clarity.

A process she's 100% thrown herself into. That's what she started the thread for.

Profound change of the kind she is contemplating is slow, until it's fast. Even absorping the helpful perspective that kids know more than we think - it takes a few weeks, you don't just sit bolt up right the minute after people have made that point on Mumsnet and change the locks on your husband.

What is more, she seems to be doing exactly what everybody is screaming at her for not doing - telling DH he must leave if he doesn't step up to the situation.

Tha's massive. She's done it guys! Where's the support?

I can't believe the judgement. Where it's backed by a story of personal pain and that's explained then ok - thats usually very helpful. But when it's just 'I'd never let anything go that far' and 'read your own statement' and 'just take the tough decisions' FFS!!!

The only thing I have to say is that the judgers do kind of help in a way... just don't take them too seriously OP. They're a different kind of people.

HollyKnight · 17/10/2024 07:55

People have a lot of sympathy and support for an individual in a horrible situation. But people have a lot less sympathy and support for someone who has put, and is keeping, children in that horrible situation. Someone, on their own, can take all the time in the world to sort their life out, but they don't have that privilege when they are a parent. Children are at the mercy of their parents.

almondmilk123 · 17/10/2024 09:04

I agree with you about kids being at the mercy of their parents and I think all those points are really important. Whether made in a kind way or not or not this is at the crux of her situation.

But the situation isn't entirely horrible, as far as I can tell - I only know what I read here. It's a mixture. if it was 100% horrible, the decision-making would be fantastically easy.

Doesn't mean a decision isn't needed. But she's making it...

HollyKnight · 17/10/2024 09:45

If situations were horrible 100% of the time, no woman would stay in an abusive relationship. It's the less than horrible times that makes people put up with the horrible times. But it doesn't make the horrible times any less horrible.

Look at it this way, a child with a suicidal parent is seen as a safeguarding issue and will result in Social Services involvement. Not just because it is their parent, but because exposure to suicide has a devastating effect on behavioral and good mental health development. The OPs children are being exposed to this.

The middle child in particular is the one who has been taking responsibility for reporting the SC's sexualised behaviours and overdoses. What do you think it will do to DC3 if this SC does succeed in killing themselves (either accidentally or intentionally) when DC3 is the one who felt like they had to look out for SC? The OP herself is still traumatised by a friend's suicide when she was younger, but is still deciding to put her children at risk of that too.

SC doesn't even need to commit suicide, just all the self-harm and damaging behaviour will be having an impact on DC3. He has already told the OP that he finds the things SC says horrifying. So I don't know how you can say this situation isn't entirely horrible when this is the stress/atmosphere/situation those children are living under 100% of the time.

HollyKnight · 17/10/2024 09:49

It will always be at the back of their minds. Even during the good times. Just ask anyone who grew up with a violent or mentally ill relative. The fear is always there in the background.