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RegrettableDisaster · 08/10/2024 18:38

I don't know how all this will come across.
Everything feels like a huge mess.
I may word this oddly as I don't want to give away details of genders etc because both my DH and Stepchild spend a huge amount of time online and you just never know. So some things have been changed or worded weirdly.
I have a 14 year old trans stepchild. They came to live with me and their Dad (my DH) when they were 12, after multiple "suicide attempts" whilst still living with the Mother. They'd been out of school for a year. The Mother was at her wits end and making everything worse. She was emotionally abusive or emotionally absent. Controlling. Imposed restrictive eating to keep child looking slim. Criticised child's friends. Drank far too much, far too regularly. Introduced many men to her children and openly used them for her own gain - e.g getting them to pay for holidays, equipment she wanted, or days out. So all the stepchildren were regularly exposed to what can only be described as a scattershot, dismal lifestyle where people are commodities.
Before SC came here, DH helped for one extra day a week on top of his access arrangements but it wasn't enough.
He shied away from being too available due to his ex wife being controlling and taking advantage. (really unusal requests like "lend me your car for work" "stay in my house for a week to look after me and the children because I'm too ill with flu"
Not to mention how she would communicate with me. She often tried to convince me that DH tried to get her back when DH and I got together. That he preferred skinny women. All sorts of weird stuff.
So in short, DH kept her at arms length because she regularly overstepped boundaries and exaggerated facts. It was always difficult to get a clear picture if how the kids were, and DH based a lot of their wellbeing on how they presented during his time with them.
Dhring this time, there was support from CAMHS for SC.
A tutor for education.
SC refused to engage with tutor, or CAMHS most of the time.
The Mother was manipulative with CAMHS workers (even started dating one of them who was engaged with my Stepchild, who subsequently lost their job)
The suicide attempts just seemed like they weren't real. Like they were ways to get attention or a need met, but not real.
We were told things like "child has slashed his neck 21 times" but there were tiny grazes not even as severe as a kitten scratch. Or things like "Child has drunk bleach - awaiting ambulance" and it would transpire he had swallowed half a capful and so wasn't even taken to hospital. As it mostly came from the Mother it was hard to know what was real, and she never let DH see any paperwork or anything. The final time it happened, the Mother text DH from hospital, saying SC was going to try again as soon as they left, and sounded very checked out of trying to help anymore, so DH rang hospital and asked for my SC to not be released from care. They agreed for a 2 night stay. The Mother was angry we had intervened. I'm not sure what her goal was.
During this hospital stay, SC regularly updated their WhatsApp status to hint that they had tried to KTS.
SC was a complete mess when they came to live with us. Had been removed by the police for attempting to hurt the Mother and placed with us, and it was requested by SS, that SC remain here, and as SC wanted to, it was sorted.
SC slept on the sofa in the living room for 6 months because there wasn't a bedroom available. SC declared the living room was their bedroom and nobody was to enter after 7.30pm as they wanted to call friends and have privacy, whuch was awkward as the living room is a walk through to the kitchen from the stairs. It sucked because there were times when SC would "have a meltdown" and then "need" everyone to stay out of the living room at odd times, especially during school breaks, so basically everyone started living in their rooms. I get how awful it was for SC to not have a bedroom. So, when it became obvious it was going to be permanent, DH and I took the living room and we swapped around my kids so Stepchild could have a bedroom. We slept downstairs for 9 more months. At least it meant we could allow unrestricted access at sensible hours and could encourage family time once more.
Still, everything had to be different - no more razors or bleach in the house. (to prevent self harm) No more pencil sharpeners. (to prevent self harm) Locked up medication. (to prevent overdose) No more spray deodorant or air fresheners. (to prevent substance abuse) No lighters for candles. (to prevent setting fires in the bedroom) Everything mentioned in brackets they had been doing at Mother's.
They still manahed to self harm a bunch, found ways - stolen scissors from my kids who tried to hide them, finding razors hidden at the back of cupboards and taking blades from them (that was fun when I went to shave my legs one evening)
Eventually we managed to find everything.
Then DH let them have their own PayPal account and they ordered blades from Ebay.
CAMHS have barely helped/been effective therapeutically.
During this time, my mother died, my 15 year old couldn't cope with all the masses of change, so went to live with their Dad. I cannot express how painful it is.

My DH, me, and my stepchild now live with my other three children. I have an 18 year old, a 14 year old and a 15 year old. (my now 16 year old is enjoying living with their Dad, has been there a year and I am happy they are okay)
But I'm finding this all very difficult now, 2 years on.
Believe me when I say I've been really supportive. I took courses in mental health first aid and mental health in teens to make sure I was at my best to cope.
I helped with communication with the Mother to arrange access. I supervised it at stepchilds request. Invited her into my home, despite her saying our house is disgusting/too small/a weird colour/looks like a hospital!
I ran to the rescue when things went wrong during what eventually led to unsupervised visits at the Mother's house, an hour away.
I have provided an ear, a shoulder, comfort, comfort food, learned all their favourite things and spent time with them. I have absolutely made them a part of the household as if they always lived here.
I am here all the time. Like I'm always home, unless I'm running family errands. DH works part time self employed during the evenings, about four or five evenings a week, has two or three days a week out of the house all afternoon/day/early evening seeing his other two children (same mother as his child who lives with us)
DH also sees friends, on and off, not with regularity but on average once a month.
My stepchild recently accused their mother of sexual abuse during their early years, and there was a resulting police investigation. Stepchild had a formal interview and so did the Mother. Nothing came of it. Stepchild now says they are worried they imagined it.
But now, their siblings (10 and 11) don't want to see my stepchild, because their Mother told them their sibling tried to ruin her life. She has also driven a wedge between me and them, meaning both the younger ones have refused to see me, my children, or their siblings since February this year. They won't visit us at our house, which is why DH spends so much more time out of the house, taking them out.
I have started to feel resentful of this situation and the fact it isn't improving.
I keep finding things online that stepchild posts that put them at risk/make them vulnerable. E.G they boasts openly about their self harm. They even posted a photo of fresh cuts on YouTube once, calling them "fresh babies". They made a post a couple months ago that they regularly "huff" and have done since they were 10, and everyone thinks they are just a funny, chill person when they are actually Hugh all the time.
They ordered a dildo online and then graphically described to my child about trying it out and training their (biological) genitalia to "take it" even talking about bleeding. My child told me where it was hidden and I threw it out. Stepchild even confronted my child about where it had gone, once discovered it was missing, and my child confessed they had told me about it and it was thrown away for stepchilds own safety and explained the level of appropriateness for a 14 year old and sex toys.
Once when stepchild came home angrily and upset from a visit with their Mother because she'd mentioned weight, stepchild grabbed a bunch of antidepressants and swallowed them, then got onto a group chat and told the group chat, "Goodbye" upsetting a tonne of teenagers online, including one of my children (the same one above) who was part of the chat, who rushed to tell me (as I was cooking dinner, unaware there had even been an issue)
My child has disclosed to me that SC engages in sex role plays online.
I have seen ads that are shown on my phone, related to content viewed on our IP address, that tell me SC reads BDSM sex stories. This was going on for months until I got sick of seeing the ads as I couldn't block them, so I had to ask all the children. SC confessed it was them. And admonished me for bringing it up.
These issues have tipped it over the edge for me. I feel like my children are being exposed to all this and it isn't fair.
My stepchild goes to a 3 hour per day alternative provision, a bit like school, but only a handful of kids, and very low pressure. They regularly don't bother with work and it almost seems like when they are pushed, they have a big explosion.
They recently told a staff member they tried to hang himself whilst staying overnight with their (very much loved) Nan. They then text DH and told him, hoping to prevent school from telling us I think. School have had to report it, of course. So I expect to hear from professionals once more.
I have a huge issue with this act because I discovered my friend dead from hanging when I was 15 and it's haunted me, despite therapy multiple times.
I am at a loss.
I feel for the child very much. I also feel for my own children.
I also dread stepchild being around. They aren't great at socialising- they tends to dominated a room and make everything about themself, to the point all of my children now appear to avoid spending time around SC, because they can't have a conversation with DH or me without SC interjecting. SC also doesn't seem capable of just "hanging out" - like, SC NEEDS attention.... can't just sit in a room, be chill, watch a bit of TV with the family or scroll through phone stuff and occasionally show each other or whatever - it has to be this like, SHOW, or has to have constant interaction like play a game with an adult for hours, or have an adult listen to them talk about themself. Not an exchange. A monologue.
They are also very selfish. One of my children (15) has shown relentless friendship and support, cooks for SC, lends SC money, listens to SC vent, gives SC advice, and tells us when SC might be unsafe. When my child recently had a friend over, they told SC that they would like said friend as they had lots in common. SC joked that they'd steal adi friend from my child. My childs response was that said friend is very loyal. SC then made a bracelet for this friend, and talked about all the topics SC knew the friend liked (they are autistic so have specific tastes) and said they were their favourites too. SC then kept entering my child's room with more gifts for the friend, and then refused to leave and it made my child feel left out, as SC did the whole domineering thing. I asked SC to give them space, as friend was here for a hangout with DC, and SCs response was "I am very very lonely and feel sad all by myself, it isn't my fault if friend likes me better" and then text DC and said "told you I'd steal friend" My child is now disengaging because it all became too much. DC still chats and hangs out with SC but it is much less, and DC doesn't engage with the venting. DC even approached DH and warned him he'd probably have to deal with more issues with SC, due to the lack of willingness to support as much on my DC part going forwards.
How awful.
DH is basically useless. Very good at feeling sorry for my SC. And himself. Ironically, he thinks everything I've told him about that I've seen online is SC fabricating, just saying it all. But 100% believes everything SC tells him IRL.
I feel like this is really affecting my marriage. I'm in therapy now and I'm going to talk to her about it but I really just need to hear that I'm not a total c**t, for feeling this way.

OP posts:
thesunisastar · 09/10/2024 07:11

Soangrynupset · 09/10/2024 02:00

@RoseByAnyOtherName· Yesterday 23:31

Your DH's responses when you told him you need a break was "there would be no going back". He didn't acknowledge what you've done for his child and how it has affected your children, he didn't acknowledge you and your children have needs too. He was quick to issue his own ultimatum - our marriage is over if SC has to leave - even though this boundary cannot work with your own boundary - my children need a safe home.

It makes me sad for you that DH might be taking your family's home for granted, and I wonder whether, even before SC moved in, was DH taking advantage of your generosity?

This.

Something worrying about your DH.

  • you have no friends, all your friends are his friends
  • One of only two Friends you had, did not like him. And now is no longer your friend. I guess she saw him for what he really is.
  • His belief that other men are after you, they will take you away etc like you have no say in the matter. Hmmm...
  • The absence of emotion or reaction with your bringing this up for discussion.
  • Sounds like he has an answer for any point you raise which ends up showcasing him as he has done something for you. Absolutely, no acknowledgement of the matter being discussed.
  • And all the other points raised by PP.

OP, i hope you are okay. Apart from fighting to now protect your kids and stop the damage being done to them, you may be losing a marriage and you may be finding out your 'D'H may not be that lovely afterall.

Please, stop your DC from being further damaged by this relationship/living situation.

I agree with this. The focus of this thread has been your SC (perhaps not surprisingly, given how deeply concerning their behaviour is, and the appalling impact it is having on your children).

But the SC is a symptom. The root cause of this dreadful situation is your DH. The PPs who are talking about how you can stay together even if you live apart etc. haven't read your posts properly. You have a history of coercive, abusive relationships and I'm afraid you're slap bang in the middle of another one.

Your DH is a manipulative, controlling and jealous husband and a truly awful father. You need to get him out NOW, seek help for yourself (I strongly recommended you do the Freedom Programme) and focus on supporting your DC.

You've obviously a good person whose had a very difficult past, which accounts for the situation getting this far. But your eyes have been opened now and it is absolutely on you to change it. Now. Today.

Peronipony · 09/10/2024 07:12

From your last update OP it’s clear nothing will change.
Leave or ruin your children’s lives, it’s up to you to be strong enough to make this call for them because they can’t.

grannypants22 · 09/10/2024 07:12

MyHouseIsABusStop · 09/10/2024 00:05

@grannypants22 "However I have to ask if this were OPs biological child with her dh, what then? Would people still be saying kick them both out? Just because it's a 'step family' it doesn't make the bonds any less meaningful and the separation any more traumatic."

Completely disagree... the bonds ARE less meaningful. This is a step child. OP gave birth to her children, she has known them far longer than her DH and his children. Her priority should be her own children who are being harmed if left in this situation.

There's no point pondering what would happen if this was her own child... it is not her child, and not her responsibility. Her responsibility is to the children she brought into the world.

I don't necessarily mean the children. Obviously you will always be closer with your biological children. I meant the dh.

There is this undercurrent on MN that stepfamilies are somehow lesser. And that it's much easier to just leave a partner than it would be if they were biological father to your dc, in fact the idea is actively encouraged the slightest sign of issues in the relationship.

My point is that leaving the relationship isn't necessary the long term solution. The kid will still be messed up and dangerous, she'll just be away from it. The child needs proper help, help that op and the family are not able to give.

I am 100% in agreement that she should protect her kids from this situation. I'm just saying that it's not easy to split up a family, even a stepfamily just because one child is a problem.

delayrepayagain · 09/10/2024 07:13

I hope you managed to get some rest last night OP. None of this is your fault but I hope you have been able to get a sense of what is happening to you and your DC from this thread which is what I believe you reached out to do.

almondmilk123 · 09/10/2024 07:14

RegrettableDisaster · 08/10/2024 22:25

well, DH ans I have just had a frank conversation. I put it to him that I need him and SC to move out for a while whilst we find a way forwards because I can no longer cope with the mental health of his child.

He came back with if we did that there would be no going back as he wasn't going to let DC be rejected again becsuse of his needs.

We then had a bit of a row. I'm having a break from the convo atm.

I can't imagine that SC didn't hear any of it.

or my DC.

I'm just going to shower and let it sit with him.

He didn't really seem to believe me. He seems to think I was making a rash decision. Reminded me that he stayed when my DC was challenging. I knew he'd say that.

Letting it sit with him is very wise. You don't sound devoid of resources or brains. I have experience wearing a husband down about certain realities. It's really hard, and it doesn't happen in a conversation when they suddenly say 'oh, you're completely right' it happens between the conversations.

Savingthehedgehogs · 09/10/2024 07:14

Op your dh needs to move out with his child, and for the sake of your own children this must happen immediately.

Not only are your children being damaged by this situation day in and day out, it is a safe guarding risk. I am incredulous this has been allowed to continue.

Please get your children into counselling asap.

They are now at risk of repeating all of the behaviours they have witnessed.

Your sc is clearly in a terrible way, but if you are not careful you will end up with all of your children in the same state.

EliflurtleAndTheInfiniteMadness · 09/10/2024 07:17

RegrettableDisaster · 08/10/2024 23:19

We had another talk but he's still resisting. Oddly he's being very calm and not showing emotion. He gave SC the day off school (well the 3 hours) tomorrow because of his outburst today

I told him this is exactly part of the issue.

I highlighted many issues. He had a come back for all of them. Even remarked about 5 years ago, when my DS2 used to struggle to cope when DH brought his three kids to play... he said "I saw a microcosm of what someone else's child's behaviour does to a child" because my, at the time, 8 year old, struggled to accommodate a 6, 3, and 2 year old into his home

He convinced his Mum to pay for private therapy for SC because she felt so guilty about SCs attempt at her house.

as for the sexual stuff online - I implored DH to report it. I think you can guess the answer. And no, I didn't. And yes it was because I'm dealing with enough.

He still doesn't seem to understand. Said we've got a lot to look forward to with moving house and our future. I said that we won't even have a future on our own if he doesn't change the way he is with SC. He didn't see it. Seems to think SC will grow out of it or something... I'm not sure.

I'm currently drowning in the shower trying to control my emotions because I'm drained. He wants to talk more when I'm done.

Tell him that, tell him you're done and you dont need to talk anymore. None of his points are relevant, none of that means it's ok for your kids to go on being exposed to what's going on. He doesn't need to understand and you can't make him. For your kids sakes it needs to be either stay together but live separately while he works to support his child and get them through this or seperate for real. He is majorly fucking up as a dad, but you can't make him change and you can't continue letting your kids get thrown under the bus while you try to make up for the shitty parenting and whatever else your SC has been exposed to.

SC actually needs their dad to step up and to focus on them. They would likely do better with one to one care and someone who could focus all their attention on them, of course this would mean he'd need to actually parent. Private therapy could be a good start, but their dad needs to be actively involved and supporting them through this, not just relying on the therapist to fix it all. He shouldn't be splitting his attention between your kids and his own when his own child is in crisis. I know that sounds horrible, but its the reality. His child needs him too much right now and you both need to put your own kids first.

He might want to look into therapeutic parenting and he needs to find a therapist that have experience with trauma in teenagers and potentially child sexual abuse as well. But HE needs to do it, not you. You're splitting yourself to your kids detriment but he also needs to focus on his child right now and on getting them safely through this crisis. He's been really selfish through all of this, it's time for him to step up and start putting his child and their welfare first.

wrongthinker · 09/10/2024 07:22

Everyone is right - he doesn't need to understand or agree with your reasons. He just needs to move out with his kid. Focus on that. Grey rock when he wants to talk. ("I hear you, but it doesn't change my decision.") He has given you an ultimatum which essentially comes down to sacrificing your DC's wellbeing to stay in the marriage. I don't think that's a fair choice to he presented with. I would get him moved out and say you aren't willing to discuss anything to do with the marriage until he and SC are settled elsewhere.

Soangrynupset · 09/10/2024 07:25

thesunisastar · 09/10/2024 07:11

I agree with this. The focus of this thread has been your SC (perhaps not surprisingly, given how deeply concerning their behaviour is, and the appalling impact it is having on your children).

But the SC is a symptom. The root cause of this dreadful situation is your DH. The PPs who are talking about how you can stay together even if you live apart etc. haven't read your posts properly. You have a history of coercive, abusive relationships and I'm afraid you're slap bang in the middle of another one.

Your DH is a manipulative, controlling and jealous husband and a truly awful father. You need to get him out NOW, seek help for yourself (I strongly recommended you do the Freedom Programme) and focus on supporting your DC.

You've obviously a good person whose had a very difficult past, which accounts for the situation getting this far. But your eyes have been opened now and it is absolutely on you to change it. Now. Today.

Exactly this.

@thesunisastar has said it more precisely.

Thinking of how he manipulated his mother into paying for private therapy is horrible. Obviously, his child being at Nan's benefitted him in some way but he has made her to blame/feel guilty for what happened at her house.

Not a 'D'H at all.

Savingthehedgehogs · 09/10/2024 07:34

I would ask/tell dh that they must move in with his mother op. This is a short term solution for now to create some space. You can not cope any longer.

Once they are out, you can recover some strength. This keeps your children safe and your sc away. This is no longer tenable.

Contact your old friends, tell them the truth, that they were right and bring them back into your life if you want to.

Contact your GP for counselling and therapy.
Take some time out yourself so you can really build up your reserves.

You can organise counselling for your children and apologise to them individually for this terrible experience. This will be making amends. You vow to protect them going forward come hell or high water.

You can turn this around.
No marriage is worth this op.

It starts with him moving into his mothers with sc.

MyHouseIsABusStop · 09/10/2024 07:35

@grannypants22 I'm sorry to disagree with you again, but in my opinion step families are lesser in these type of situations and it is easier to leave a partner if they are not your children's father, particularly in situations where your children are at risk. No partner or husband should be put ahead of the children you chose to bring into this world, and if your partner is not your children's father, there is a lot less legal issues with leaving the relationship.

And leaving the relationship would be a long term solution for OP. It doesn't matter that the kid will still be messed up and dangerous, this is not the OPs responsibility, her responsibility is to her children.

Trebolle · 09/10/2024 07:39

I wish I could say I don't believe what I'm reading but so many woman put their kids last.

You're destroying them, there are no positives that outweigh that. None.

Savingthehedgehogs · 09/10/2024 07:41

I will say this to you op he might threaten you that it’s over if he is forced to move out, but that is just a strategy to force you to carry on…. But honestly you can not put him and sc first.

He might also threaten that sc can’t cope and will take their own life, but nothing you have done so far or anyone else has prevented so many attempts already. You can mot fix them or this situation. This is well beyond anything you can do.

All you can do now is protect your own darling children. That’s the only influence you do have.

They move to his mother’s today.

2boyzNosleep · 09/10/2024 07:44

I also want to say, what was your SC like when they were younger?

There's so many signs of abuse and red flags. Why didn't your DH take action years ago? Why were they left with the mum, and are the other SC actually safe?

Why didn't your DH take all of his children to live with him? Your DH is just as bad as their Mum, for ignoring the signs and not taking any real action to protect his DC (based from the info from your posts).

What parent that cares for their children, isn't concerned when they are constantly being exposed to unknown men?

Honestly, I find it hard to believe that everything in his family was fine until a year after you married.

I understand that many parents are worried about how they will cope being single parents, work, finances, etc, yet many people do cope and do this because they prioritise the safety and development of their children.

Mitherations · 09/10/2024 08:05

You don't need to negotiate with him, it doesn't matter what comebacks he employs to manipulate you.

Any man who gave a shiny shite about you and your children would have already packed his bags and found somewhere for him and SC. He is using you, manipulating you, and your DC are getting damaged in the crossfire. That is what they are seeing as an example, you, as a doormat being abused, and experiencing abuse and you watching it happen.

Until you get them away from you and your DC you are enabling this situation.

No it's not necessarily your fault, but it is absolutely one hundred percent your responsibility to change it, for your children who need you to put your grown up head on and deal with this shitstorm because it's only going to get worse.

If you let this continue you will lose them in one way or another. You choose.

ahemfem · 09/10/2024 08:10

delayrepayagain · 09/10/2024 07:13

I hope you managed to get some rest last night OP. None of this is your fault but I hope you have been able to get a sense of what is happening to you and your DC from this thread which is what I believe you reached out to do.

How is none of this her fault? She has a responsibility to her children and she's failing them

Savingthehedgehogs · 09/10/2024 08:12

She isn’t failing her dc if she turns this around now.
This can be a life lesson to them on boundaries and limits, self care. But he needs to move out with sc.

delayrepayagain · 09/10/2024 08:38

@ahemfem i have already highlighted this in previous post to the OP however she did not ask for this situation to arise and I am showing compassion for her situation. I am well aware of the severity of this situation and the need to safeguard her DC from abuse.

grannypants22 · 09/10/2024 09:04

MyHouseIsABusStop · 09/10/2024 07:35

@grannypants22 I'm sorry to disagree with you again, but in my opinion step families are lesser in these type of situations and it is easier to leave a partner if they are not your children's father, particularly in situations where your children are at risk. No partner or husband should be put ahead of the children you chose to bring into this world, and if your partner is not your children's father, there is a lot less legal issues with leaving the relationship.

And leaving the relationship would be a long term solution for OP. It doesn't matter that the kid will still be messed up and dangerous, this is not the OPs responsibility, her responsibility is to her children.

I think we will have to agree to disagree.

Of course we feel for the op, she has gone above and beyond for this kid and the family. I absolutely think things can't carry on the way they are.

But I do disagree with the flippancy of ending a marriage over it. I've been with my dh for several years, more than half of my eldest dc life. If we split it would be very traumatic to him. He isn't just some new boyfriend, he is a father figure to ds and we are a family. No lesser than anyone else's family. How are the other dc going to feel about this? Op has said they are close.

Look I'm not saying she should stay with him and continue to subject her kids to the SC. Absolutely not. All I'm saying is that if she loves him, if the family is otherwise happy and the only issue is this problem child then surely there has to be another way?

pinkoink · 09/10/2024 09:21

RegrettableDisaster · 08/10/2024 23:02

I thought I was showing them how to be strong and supportive of other people. I thought I was showing them not to bail when things are tricky, becsuse everyone needs help.

I realise now that I was being foolish.

Well, sorry if this sounds harsh but I’ve learnt in therapy that the saviour complex is nothing more but a form of narcissism.

My mother also had it and put the needs of others above mine when I was a kid. Didn’t do our relationship any good.

ahemfem · 09/10/2024 09:22

grannypants22 · 09/10/2024 09:04

I think we will have to agree to disagree.

Of course we feel for the op, she has gone above and beyond for this kid and the family. I absolutely think things can't carry on the way they are.

But I do disagree with the flippancy of ending a marriage over it. I've been with my dh for several years, more than half of my eldest dc life. If we split it would be very traumatic to him. He isn't just some new boyfriend, he is a father figure to ds and we are a family. No lesser than anyone else's family. How are the other dc going to feel about this? Op has said they are close.

Look I'm not saying she should stay with him and continue to subject her kids to the SC. Absolutely not. All I'm saying is that if she loves him, if the family is otherwise happy and the only issue is this problem child then surely there has to be another way?

No there isn't. For whatever reason her DH doesn't seem to care about the impact on her kids. That is a marriage ender.

Justleaveitblankthen · 09/10/2024 09:41

ZeroFucksGivenToday · 08/10/2024 20:02

hes not stable. He ignores all the online stuff. He leaves SC at home with you whilst he sees his other kids who don't come around anymore. He leaves you to it.

You'll stay anyway, and I've no doubt get this thread deleted. Your kids are suffering due to your abysmal decisions because you're prioritising a crap dad and a very mentally ill child over your own kids.

And if the kids don't get on with their other parent that's even worse. Home should be a safe and welcoming space, that should be with you. And it isn't.

This. Very unfortunate this. You are going to stay, despite all the advice from horrified PPS.
You are already arguing his corner.
It's a depressingly common theme here.

funinthesun19 · 09/10/2024 10:32

grannypants22 · 09/10/2024 09:04

I think we will have to agree to disagree.

Of course we feel for the op, she has gone above and beyond for this kid and the family. I absolutely think things can't carry on the way they are.

But I do disagree with the flippancy of ending a marriage over it. I've been with my dh for several years, more than half of my eldest dc life. If we split it would be very traumatic to him. He isn't just some new boyfriend, he is a father figure to ds and we are a family. No lesser than anyone else's family. How are the other dc going to feel about this? Op has said they are close.

Look I'm not saying she should stay with him and continue to subject her kids to the SC. Absolutely not. All I'm saying is that if she loves him, if the family is otherwise happy and the only issue is this problem child then surely there has to be another way?

If they were a nuclear family I would agree with you and the parents would probably be more likely work together to overcome the problems their JOINT child is creating. But as this child isn’t OP’s, she very understandably has no fight in her for a child who isn’t hers and doesn’t want to stay in a marriage where a child who isn’t hers is making her and her children miserable.

Step definitely makes a difference.

lovemetomybones · 09/10/2024 11:07

He isn't listening, he's minimising, he isn't prioritising the needs of your children.

He needs to leave. He is a huge part of the problem. And if there is no going back, then you should remind him that it's his lack of action that's the problem, it's his selfish decision making that's theres no going back from

WearyAuldWumman · 09/10/2024 11:09

grannypants22 · 09/10/2024 09:04

I think we will have to agree to disagree.

Of course we feel for the op, she has gone above and beyond for this kid and the family. I absolutely think things can't carry on the way they are.

But I do disagree with the flippancy of ending a marriage over it. I've been with my dh for several years, more than half of my eldest dc life. If we split it would be very traumatic to him. He isn't just some new boyfriend, he is a father figure to ds and we are a family. No lesser than anyone else's family. How are the other dc going to feel about this? Op has said they are close.

Look I'm not saying she should stay with him and continue to subject her kids to the SC. Absolutely not. All I'm saying is that if she loves him, if the family is otherwise happy and the only issue is this problem child then surely there has to be another way?

I have to disagree with your use of "flippancy" here. This is a safeguarding issue.

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