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Confusing situation with DP and his child

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GutsyCat · 15/08/2024 16:47

DP and I have been and lived together for 9 years. DP has a 12 year-old child. DP had this child with a slightly older woman who he was having a fling with in his late teens. Unplanned from DP’s perspective.

DP has not had, in my eyes, a full relationship with his child ever. He never lived with his child’s Mother before or after the birth, his child has never lived with him, he has never looked after his child for more than a few hours by himself, and until fairly recently he didn’t have regular contact with his child. He pays maintenance and other one-off payments for certain things such as school trips. One of the main reasons he has had a limited relationship with his child, I think, is due to his job which involves working away for extended periods and working unsocial hours.

DP’s parents are fully involved in his child’s life and always have been. His child stays with them once a week, regularly spends weekends with them, and goes on holidays with them and the other three grandchildren (DP’s sister’s children).

When I met DP, I knew that he had a child, but he never mentioned his child or had any contact apart from his child’s birthday and Christmas which his child spent with DP’s parents. Around 3 years ago, we moved back to our local area for work. Since then, DP has seen his child on average once per week at his parents’ house, as well as for the events mentioned above.

I have never really been involved in his child’s life. I have only met them a handful of times over the last 9 years. I spend Christmas with my family and so I am not there for his family meet-up.

Over the years, DP has made the odd comment such as ‘having a room in our house for DS’. When we have had arguments about other matters, he will make comments such as ‘well it would be easier if you were interested in DS’.

Given the above, I am very confused as to where I stand regarding a relationship with his child. In all honesty, I feel no connection or affection towards his child, since I have not been a part of their life. In my mind, DP has shown little interest towards his DS since we have been together, and whenever I ask him if he plans to have a closer relationship going forwards, he says ‘I don’t know’. I have explained that this is unfair on me, as I need to know where I stand in terms of having to potentially have his child in our home. If we were to TTC in the near future, I would be worried that the whole situation would be very messy.

I have asked family and friends for advice and have received very varied comments ranging from ‘leave him’ to ‘it’s up to you to make an effort with his child’ to DP’s parents suggesting I come to their house to spend time with his child. I suppose I should add that I’m not really a maternal person and I would find it difficult to spend one-on-one time with a child (I have a nephew).

Thanks for reading this rather long-winded post. Any advice welcome.

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Viewfrommyhouse · 15/08/2024 17:08

You've been together 9 years but Xmas separately? Why are you even thinking about having a child together when you don't spend Xmas together?

The fact that your PILs see the child more than he does is sad. How do you respond when he mentions making room for his DS at your home?

ginasevern · 15/08/2024 17:30

If you're not very maternal why are you thinking about having a child?

Apart from that, I think you'll find that ultimately your DP's child will come first. She is already a big part of his life, more than I think you realise or are prepared to acknowledge. He pays maintenance, she goes on holiday with the grandparents and has effectively grown up with her cousins (your DP's sister's kids).

I think you're minimising the whole thing and they could very well end up living with you. That's not necessarily the end of the world but it sounds as though you have rather a strange relationship with DP and his family. Why do you have seperate Christmases for example?

yeesh · 15/08/2024 17:38

Why would you think about having a child with a man who doesn’t take care of the child he already has? Do you really think he would be a better father to your child? The whole situation is really odd and very sad for his child

PrawnAgain · 15/08/2024 17:43

Uiyuii

This isn't dp making his child a big part of his life. This is paying maintenance which is a legal requirement and his family making an effort. The bar is low if you think this is a dad making a child a big part of his life.

Op, I don't see how you can make the effort if your partner only sees him once a week outside of your home. I wouldn think very carefully about trying to conceive with someone who is happy with only seeing their existing child on his birthday and christmas.

TinyYellow · 15/08/2024 17:45

If you are having thoughts of making more children with him, then you do have a responsibility to make an effort with his existing child.

Maybe if your DH knew you would be welcoming he would be able to answer how he sees things in the future. He’s clearly told you he would like a room at his hime for his child so he might be able to say more than ‘I don’t know’ if he has your support.

Your 12 year old ss isn’t going to want to spend 1-1 time with you either. You don’t have to provide childcare to show that you have some interest in something as important as his son.

LittleGreenDragons · 15/08/2024 17:47

He's not father material (and has consistently proved that) so why are you thinking of having a child with him? Get some standards for yourself and don't lumber an innocent child with him as a "father". Yuck.

Actually I can't understand why you would want to live with someone like him who has shown you loudly and clearly that he is a very, very selfish person.

(As for not being "maternal" and not wanting to look after other peoples children - it is entirely a different feeling with your own thanks to hormones flooding your body over several months).

Foxblue · 15/08/2024 17:49

Why would you be happy dating a man who doesn't parent his child properly, I really don't understand. Why would you even be thinking about giving your child a father who is literally proving, this second in front of your very eyes, that he can't be bothered to put in a proper effort. Actions speak louder than words here.

Hectorscalling · 15/08/2024 17:54

It’s not confusing. He isn’t a good or interested parent.

Not sure why you would be with him or even consider planning a child with him.

stayathomer · 15/08/2024 17:57

Op I’d talk to him, without an argument, just a I’m very confused, what’s the actual story. Also Sit down and think what you would do if they moved in and consider this is a child and presumably you had a loving situation as a child and all children deserve same. Consider all your options, from leaving to accepting gps offer and jumping into being a sp because if you’ve been together so long that’s what you are

MrsTerryPratchett · 15/08/2024 17:57

He wants you to be more interested in his child than he is. Attractive father material? Not really. I guarantee he won't parent any children you have effectively either.

Milkand2sugarsplease · 15/08/2024 18:00

He's little to no interest in his child.

You're not very maternal.

You're both thinking about having a / another child??

And christmas - does this new baby spend one Xmas with mum and one with dad...??

ManchesterGirl2 · 15/08/2024 18:01

Why are you thinking of TTC when you don't want to spend one-on-one time with a child, and your partner is not being a full parent to the kid he already has?

xyz111 · 15/08/2024 18:02

He doesn't have a decent relationship with the child, so how can he expect you to. I couldn't be with a man that showed such little feelings for his own child.

arethereanyleftatall · 15/08/2024 18:08

I genuinely have absolutely no idea how you would be remotely attracted to this person.
He made a child who he takes no responsibility for!! That is off the charts selfish.
I don't get it.

thursdaymurderclub · 15/08/2024 18:09

Why do you do christmas separently? This would be an ideal time to meet and maybe get to know this child? to me, the fact you christmas separately speaks volumes to me..

you have no maternal feelings yet you are thinking of TTC? these two statements don't add up.

Your DP does the very bare minumum for a child he has, and well done to your PIL for making that effort. Why would you start a family with a man who has so little interest in the child he already has?

Mumofteenandtween · 15/08/2024 18:17

MrsTerryPratchett · 15/08/2024 17:57

He wants you to be more interested in his child than he is. Attractive father material? Not really. I guarantee he won't parent any children you have effectively either.

This. Not only is he a pretty appalling father - he is weaponising his child against you. The child he can’t be arsed with.

Tbskejue · 15/08/2024 18:18

I wouldn’t want children with someone who treats their existing child like this. To be honest you’ve not been interested in him so far so I’m not sure what the purpose of doing it now is? So it’s less awkward for you with future children?

JenniferBooth · 19/08/2024 19:47

he will make comments such as ‘well it would be easier if you were interested in DS

Fucking cheek after the lack of interest he has shown in this child which is HIS child

this comment says that he expects more of you even though the child isnt yours because you are a woman and childcare is womens work,
Id be ending it

TudorClock · 19/08/2024 19:52

His parents sound like they have a lot of class.....
But your DP sounds like a deadbeat, sorry

Aquamarine1029 · 19/08/2024 19:57

Why on earth would you burden yet another child with such a shit father? Come the fuck on.

MounjaroUser · 19/08/2024 20:02

I wouldn't have any respect for a man who behaved like that. His parents sound great but unfortunately he's not inherited their love and compassion.

I definitely wouldn't have children with him. No way. You've seen how he treats his first child. It would be enough for me to dump him.

CinnamonBuns67 · 19/08/2024 22:03

No he doesn't get to do that OP. He doesn't get to blame you for not having much of an interest in a child he doesn't really bothered with himself. I'm sorry but it is really awful he doesn't look after his child especially as it doesn't sound like the mum has blocked him from doing so as paternal grandparents have him every week and regular weekend. It should be his dad doing that, with the grandparents visiting. They've essentially stepped up to his role.

I genuinely would reconsider having a child with such a person. He is not a good dad to the one he's got, he isn't going to become a good dad for yours.

It isn't your fault though OP so don't let anyone make you feel like it's your responsibility.

mouseyowl · 19/08/2024 22:58

He wants you to take over some of the parenting of his child so he feels better about the fact that he is an utterly shit father.

In the same way he is very happy with visiting his child at his parents house where they do the actual work/effort and have an actual relationship with their GC. He piggy-backs on them so he gets easy non-committed 'contact' with his child.
He is now basically suggesting you do the same for him so he can piggy-back off you too.

He's beyond pathetic.
You are quite right to be Hmm

I have no idea why why why you would knowingly TTC with a known ridiculously bad father. Honestly.

Callisto1 · 26/08/2024 09:46

I think your DP behaves a bit like a child in this whole situation. He was a young father and it looks like the grandparents sort of took over his parenting role.
Does he want this to change? I would gently talk to him about whether he wants a more active role in his child’s life and explain that you can’t be more interested in his DC since you don’t know them. If you are happy to have a relationship maybe suggest you do fun weekend outings together. A few hours in some adventure park or bowling or whatever is fairly low key as an introduction.

Also I never did Christmas with my husband until kids because it’s the longest holiday period and we always used it to visit our respective families abroad. It’s no like Christmas is such a big deal for grownups.

WhamBamThankU · 26/08/2024 10:01

Wow he sounds like an awful person. I would entirely judge a man who had this sort of (not really) relationship with their child.

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