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What an earth do we do now?

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Jenx24 · 31/07/2023 13:00

We are due to take DSD 11 away in a few weeks to one of the Greek islands which obviously has sadly been affected by wildfires. (This has been booked for about 10 months). However, our holiday company are still travelling out there and won't offer us any alternatives or refunds, our hotel is an area unaffected and has remained open, so we don't really have any other option than to go. We are fine with this.

DP got a text this morning from DSD's mum today saying she won't be allowing her to go as she's too worried about the fires! What an earth do we do about this? We can't get a refund, it's a nice hotel costing us over £3500 in total. Do we stand anywhere legally with this? Still unclear as to whether she still expects us to have DSD this week and we just go the two of us but DSD has been really looking forward to this holiday.

Any advice what to do?

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crazeekat · 31/07/2023 18:48

i hope with a few days that will
convince her but if she insists on not allowing her to go the u MUST go yourselves just to show she won't ever manage to have control over you and ur dp, and make sure dsd is aware u have tried all ways possible to get her to come
but it's her
mum stopping it. show her texts, etc so she
knows and mum can see that kind of meddling won't work.

SuperSange · 31/07/2023 18:56

Off to Court you go, for a specific issues order. It's the only way.

Campervangirl · 01/08/2023 11:50

I'd still go without DSD, explain that it's her dm's decision.
However, if your DH has shared custody DM surely can't dictate what or where you go on his time, I'd bet the DM wouldn't put up with your DH dictating to her.
My dsis lives on a Greek island and wildfires are always a real threat, especially during a heatwave.
She has a "grab bag" packed and ready to go during a heatwave.
I know that the fires on Rhodes have been really bad, I've holidayed on Rhodes twice a year for 15 yrs and never seen a wildfire.
My advice is still to go and let DM make other arrangements for dsd for that week, she's probably expecting you to cancel your holiday, look after DSD as usual then book something else, bollocks to that.

Baconisdelicious · 01/08/2023 17:01

However, if your DH has shared custody DM surely can't dictate what or where you go on his time, I'd bet the DM wouldn't put up with your DH dictating to her

a holiday won’t solely be on his time though, will it? Unless there is already a court order in place.

and just because you have never seen a wildfire doesn’t mean they haven’t happened and that people’s lives haven’t been lost and ruined as a result.

I have just looked at travel advice - there is no ‘don’t travel’ message, rather liaise with your travel company and keep up to date with what is happening. On this basis, you would probably be successful with a Specific Issues Order, OP. But I still think given what has happened, any parent feeling uncomfortable with the situation isn’t unreasonable,

Campervangirl · 03/08/2023 18:04

Baconisdelicious · 01/08/2023 17:01

However, if your DH has shared custody DM surely can't dictate what or where you go on his time, I'd bet the DM wouldn't put up with your DH dictating to her

a holiday won’t solely be on his time though, will it? Unless there is already a court order in place.

and just because you have never seen a wildfire doesn’t mean they haven’t happened and that people’s lives haven’t been lost and ruined as a result.

I have just looked at travel advice - there is no ‘don’t travel’ message, rather liaise with your travel company and keep up to date with what is happening. On this basis, you would probably be successful with a Specific Issues Order, OP. But I still think given what has happened, any parent feeling uncomfortable with the situation isn’t unreasonable,

Bored are you?
Stick to the issue instead of trying to prove me wrong.
I actually said "if" the dh has shared custody.
Yes, I've never seen a wildfire and yes I actually do know they happen as I stated in my post, my dsis lives in Greece, she has experienced wildfires hence why she has a grab bag, so I do know the fear they face and the fear we face worrying about her when there have been wildfires.
Also, yes I do understand that people's lives have been lost and ruined as a result of wildfires.
I have a lot of Greek friends throughout the Greek islands and have stayed in Lardos, which was severely affected, several times.
I also know that businesses, homes and lives have to be rebuilt on the islands affected by the fires.
I also know that these people, my friends, rely on tourism for their livelihood, they have a small window of opportunity to make money.
I also know that a lot of the businesses in the surrounding areas on Rhodes are advertising that they're open for business and that it's safe.
There is no "don't travel" advice, which proves my above statement.
The op and anyone planning to travel to the islands affected have to weigh up the risks but I think the question in the op was can the dm stop the ddad taking the dd.
Luckily for me you googled the travel advice so we can all rest assured that you're now an expert (thanks to google)
I know a lot, don't I, didn't even have to google anything, it's called experience.
So get back in your box and shush

Baconisdelicious · 03/08/2023 19:47

Oh wow.

Shush yourself, love

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