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DSDs driving me crackers - baby on the way

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thelastoftheherriots · 16/11/2022 11:20

I'm having two main problems with my DSDs (7 and 12) which have been ongoing for a couple of years now, and am at the end of my tether. Looking for advice and pearls of wisdom on how to deal with them.

One is the mess they leave. They leave a trail of destruction behind them (probably like a lot of kids) and their bedrooms a state. I've tried the "lets tackle it together" approach, I've tried bribery, sticker charts and telling off. I've had A Big Talk with them. I've asked my DP to get on board with telling them to tidy up after themselves but with no progress, and I think it's unlikely this will change. I'm 8 months pregnant and I'm bending down multiple times a day to pick up other people's crap and am sick of it now, I'm not getting chance to do my studying or work that I should be doing and I'm certainly not going to have time once baby arrives. Up to now, I've felt disrespectful to our cleaner to leave it a mess, so I have been going in and tidying and she's been cleaning it. So from the kids point of view, they leave their rooms a tip and then turn up next time with them reset to perfection. I don't think it's doing them or anyone any favours.

My thoughts now is that I need to shut the doors and leave them to wallow in their own muck, only opening them to chuck stuff inside that's been left in communal areas. And ask the cleaner to do the same and forget that those two rooms exist. I think my DP will only get on board if I let things get bad, as from his perspective, he doesn't have to deal with the consequences and I sort it all out so it's not a problem. I pay for their Netflix so I could also cancel that and tell them it's because they're clearly watching too much and not getting time to keep things tidy.

Does this sound reasonable? Any other ideas?

The second issue is the bickering between them. I know sisters argue, but it's off the scales, as in, they're left alone for 5 minutes and there's screaming, crying, hitting. The older one physically hurts the younger one, which I hate to see. My DP deals with it in a very inconsistent way, sometimes properly (sending to rooms, having talks with them) and then other times not at all. They don't really have any consequences. If they were my children, I would be confiscating older DSDs phone, cancelling nice events etc but I don't feel I have the authority to do this. Again, I feel like I've tried everything and don't know where to go with it. It's at the point where I don't want to be around when they are, and make excuses not to be here which is a shame as we do have a good relationship (or used to, but this is affecting it now). I used to do a lot with them but don't anymore and have stepped right back, and refused to go on holiday with them this year as they ruined the last one we went on with the constant arguing, but it isn't really how I want it to be. I want us to be a family, but it's going to end up as two separate entities (me and baby, my DP and his kids) if things continue as they are.

I know a lot of this is a DP problem for not tackling it, but honestly I think he's a bit out of his depth with two headstrong daughters, the practical side of parenting is just not his strength and I'm fairly committed now and not in a position (practically or mentally) to leave. He does have many, many good points, this really being the only sticking point. There are a lot of things keeping me here. I'm not prepared just yet to remove my baby from the lovely life she will have, and the nice family she will have if we can sort out these problems so LTB isn't really an option for me at the moment - not until I've exhausted other options. Any success stories/ideas of tackling these problems or making life more tolerable welcome as I'm stressed out to hell and exhausted before baby even gets here and I don't want my maternity leave or time with my child ruined by this.

OP posts:
SandyY2K · 19/11/2022 08:49

Would you find a mother who didn’t support her children to tidy any of their things, making her partner do this,

He doesn't MAKE her do it. You keep saying that...but it's incorrect.

Not supporting your kids to tidy up is lax......maybe he's not particularly tidy himself, or it would bother him more...it needs to be addressed, but parenting is a whole lot more than tidying up after yourself.

He needs to do better than he is doing right now, however, his lax parenting didn't just start and OP should have raised it before with him. I doubt he was great and has suddenly deteriorated.

pinkyredrose · 19/11/2022 10:55

Kanaloa · 16/11/2022 23:48

What do you mean ‘the practical side of parenting is not his strength?’ What is his strength, the theory of parenting?

I never hear people make these weak and pathetic excuses for women. If a mother left the house a mess and let her almost teen physically attack a much younger sibling nobody would coo ‘oh she’s a bit out of her depth with those headstrong girls, the practical side of parenting just isn’t her strength.’

You are making this a stepchild issue. It isn’t one. You have a husband who expects you to clean up after his children and refuses to do even the basic parenting to ensure both girls are safe. This is his job. If he truly can’t cope as they’re too ‘headstrong’ he needs to look into parenting classes and support.

Exactly

Kanaloa · 19/11/2022 16:49

SandyY2K · 19/11/2022 08:49

Would you find a mother who didn’t support her children to tidy any of their things, making her partner do this,

He doesn't MAKE her do it. You keep saying that...but it's incorrect.

Not supporting your kids to tidy up is lax......maybe he's not particularly tidy himself, or it would bother him more...it needs to be addressed, but parenting is a whole lot more than tidying up after yourself.

He needs to do better than he is doing right now, however, his lax parenting didn't just start and OP should have raised it before with him. I doubt he was great and has suddenly deteriorated.

She has asked him to help her with it and he has refused. That is making her do it. A tidy house is a normal environment - if one partner refuses to participate it is making the other partner do it.

deliciouschilli · 19/11/2022 19:18

Remind your partner that if SS find out a 7 and 12 year old are found to be "wallowing" in their own filth (as you put it) with dirty bedding and living conditions they will be involved with all children, including your child.

Seaweed42 · 19/11/2022 19:36

WHY OH WHY are you not asking DP to tidy his daughter's rooms???
Maybe that not occurred to you, because cleaning is women's work and best not upset DP.

You are calling the DSD selfish and pure lazy but you never ask her father to tidy her room after her.

It's easier to blame a woman than really address the elephant in the room - your immature DP.

You have a DP problem not a DSD problem.
It's glaringly obvious but you are not seeing it.

Waitingfordecember · 19/11/2022 20:50

You have to get your husband to step up. You’re heavily pregnant and can’t keep being everyone’s maid. The girls can’t stop being nurtured right before a half sibling is born (well, not without awful consequences).

If he doesn’t step up now he will end up ruining his relationship with you and his children. There’s no way you’ll all come out of the new baby days not resenting him if he doesn’t do better by you all.

allboysmum3 · 19/11/2022 21:27

I absolutely would make them pick up their own stuff and tidy their bedrooms before they leave. I make my step children go up to their bedrooms to check they are tidy before they go home to mum. I hate having doors shut upstairs as it makes it all dark so shutting doors isn't ideal.
One thing... where is baby going to sleep. You've mentioned there's no nursery and you don't want to make them share. Okay that's fine for the first 6 months... then what? She won't stay a baby forever... she deserves her own room also. I'm older two need to share going forward. They won't always argue and presumably they aren't with you 100% of the time.

roseheartfly · 21/11/2022 01:54

piedbeauty · 18/11/2022 09:01

Think long and hard about how it's making you feel and be honest with your DH. Ignore the MN who say really pointless things like 'sounds like a shit father', they are typically exWs or have no clue what it is to be in love with someone in this position.

That's some sweeping statement! Most people are saying the same thing: why did you decide to have a baby with a man who's an ineffective parent to his existing Dc?

Eg

roseheartfly · 21/11/2022 01:57

A perfect example of the MNs who want to make unhelpful comments.

& ask unkind questions.. rather than provide some helpful suggestions with your original post.

They'd rather leave you feeling small.

I always wonder, how happy someone must really be when they do that?

I hope you are ok OP and you managed to get some good ideas.

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