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Apparently you lot are responsible for the demise of my marriage 🤷🏻‍♀️

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SoggyPaper · 20/05/2022 07:28

You harpies and the stepmonster book apparently.

According to my husband:

”That book ruined your view on this.”
”Some step mum book”
”And also mumsnet”
”And all the negative weirdos there”.

Clearly the problem is nothing to do with him and his treatment of me as unpaid nanny/housekeeper come scapegoat to alleviate his divorced dad fear, obligation and guilt. Nope. Nor him entirely failing to acknowledge any of my basic needs.

Nope the problem is any source of information that confirmed to me that wasn’t ok, that I could and should set boundaries and not accept any of it.

I’d imagine he’s not the only man who has decided that MN has ruined his marriage. Because women supporting each other to raise our expectations of men is a dreadful thing.

So here’s to you, negative weirdos! 😁

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kimfox · 20/05/2022 19:04

Give your H this from me Biscuit And this is for you StarWineFlowers.

SoggyPaper · 21/05/2022 13:04

Today I am feeling extremely grateful to be out of the shitstorm that was EOW contact with the SC. His messages about it (because he messages me this shit 🤷🏻‍♀️) tell me that I am so much better off away from the toxic dynamics in that family and his weird framing of them.

He wants to frame everything as people just not liking ‘other people’s children’ and me just not being grown up enough to deal with that. But he’s ignoring the genuinely problematic dynamics that surround his children and which (inevitably) manifest in their behaviour. And to which he contributes. Obviously.

It appears that at drop off today, his ex arrived absolutely livid (shaking with rage apparently). What was she livid about? Her boyfriend has just left her, never to return. This is the second boyfriend to have left her in 2022.

And what was she angry about? She was absolutely livid with her DS about it. Apparently it is all his fault that her boyfriend has left her. She made this explicit to the kids, their father and presumably any of his neighbours who happened to be about.

It’s likely that the previous boyfriend left because of the children, particularly her DS’s behaviour.

BUT, as this event illustrates, there is an enormously toxic dynamic at play. She has two children. One fabulous golden child daughter and a (younger) black sheep son. It’s as plain as day to all and sundry. The dynamic plays out in the extended family and, much though he denies it, their father is implicated too. The son is particularly difficult, as you’d imagine given all this. The daughter is also problematic in various ways as a result of this dynamic (she’s manipulative, always trying to get her brother into trouble and tells him how much worse he is than her regularly).

It’s dreadful. Utterly dreadful. And had incredibly negative effects on my household (and my children). All made worse by how their father approaches everything.

His response to these events was to message me: ‘Apparently [name’s] boyfriend has left never to come back because of [DS]. Who wants other people's kids? I don't. You don't.’ 🙄

I don’t need to know this crap, obviously. But the message exchange has really reinforced my thinking about all this. My husband just does not get it at all. He’s determined to just reduce things to ‘people not liking other people’s children. He does not want to acknowledge the specific problems with his children and the toxic family dynamics. That his relationship has failed and his ex’s are failing because of THAT.

Nor does he challenge his ex’s emotional abuse of her son. He reported this crap to me as if it wasn’t beyond awful that she is overtly and publicly blaming a 5 year old for her relationship breakdown. His lack of concern about this is alarming.

If my elder DS’s father did that - stood on my doorstep shaking with anger telling DS that it was his fault his partner had left him - I’d be taking steps to move towards supervised contact arrangements because it’s enormously abusive behaviour. I wouldn’t be blithely messaging ‘who wants other people’s kids?’

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SoggyPaper · 21/05/2022 13:10

In the past, I’d have ended up somehow the one to blame for everything in this situation.

Let’s face it, there’s going to be a weekend of dreadful behaviour. And I’m delighted that I’m not there to be scapegoated so that the children’s father can avoid dealing with the toxicity in his first family (and it’s effects on his second attempt).

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SoggyPaper · 21/05/2022 13:11

Instead… I’m having a nice relaxing weekend with my toddler. Everything is calm in this house.

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Pixiedust1234 · 21/05/2022 13:24

Don't blame me, I'm too new. However I am willing to accept being called a weirdo if it helps 😁

Congratulations on your escape!

SoggyPaper · 21/05/2022 13:44

Pixiedust1234 · 21/05/2022 13:24

Don't blame me, I'm too new. However I am willing to accept being called a weirdo if it helps 😁

Congratulations on your escape!

You are to blame too, you know. What with encouraging me and all!

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aSofaNearYou · 21/05/2022 13:46

I find it interesting that he said even he doesn't want other people's kids, given how much of a problem he seems to have with the idea of other people not wanting his.

NewandNotImproved · 21/05/2022 13:57

Why spend your time typing out paragraphs about the shitty bloke? Just discard him and enjoy life.

Is your kid his? Hope he learns how to use contraception instead of making kids with multiple women.

SoggyPaper · 21/05/2022 13:58

He wants to be able to just say he doesn’t like my DS. That’s what’s going on there.

And he most definitely does not want to examine the particular issues that literally anyone who tries to have a relationship with him or his ex will encounter around their children. He does not want to consider that there might be something specifically about his children (and the whole dynamic around them) that makes them particularly difficult.

It’s much more comfortable for him to reduce it to no one liking other peoples kids. And to scapegoat me and my DS because he won’t get his own house in order.

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SoggyPaper · 21/05/2022 13:59

NewandNotImproved · 21/05/2022 13:57

Why spend your time typing out paragraphs about the shitty bloke? Just discard him and enjoy life.

Is your kid his? Hope he learns how to use contraception instead of making kids with multiple women.

Because I’m processing things. And it helps me to recognise that it really could never be vaguely workable.

We have a toddler. I didn’t realise how dysfunctional things were - or how dysfunctional he is - until it was too late.

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LivingDeadGirlUK · 21/05/2022 14:01

Hoppinggreen · 20/05/2022 15:07

I DO actually want everyone to be as miserable in their marriage as I am - which is not at all

I love this :)

RedWingBoots · 21/05/2022 14:24

Lots of adults I've grown up around and know like other people's children - I do as well - even when they have one or both shitty parents.

The one caveat is that a child themselves is not liked if they are also shitty.

I know a couple of people who are still in touch and have a relationship with an ex step-parent. There as that ex step-parent has absolutely no contact with their parent who they had a relationship with.

So OP you are fully aware your ex is talking shit.

Keep your child who isn't his away from him.

Have minimum contact with over your toddler in fact you need to tell him unless it is about your joint child he isn't to message OR call you on your phone. He can contact you about your divorce through email.

Yes I'm saying put more boundaries in place with him as he clearly can't behaviour appropriately at all.

SoggyPaper · 21/05/2022 14:32

i am putting more boundaries in place.

But I do feel that - in this moment - being aware of the ongoing drama around his contact and toxicity in that family dynamic has helped me to really say: it isn’t me. That situation is a nightmare. We are all better off out of it.

I know lots of people who like other people’s children. Even stepparents. 🤣

He would love it to simply be a case of no one liking other people’s children. Because then he doesn’t have to admit that HE might be a problem.

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SoggyPaper · 21/05/2022 14:47

I guess I’m trying to find something that’s not resolutely negative to take from receiving these messages.

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BonesJones · 21/05/2022 15:03

My exH hated mumsnet too. Because it bolstered my leaving him for being a shit husband. He must still hold a grudge rather than reflecting on his own behaviour because my DS said the other day 'Dad says mumsnet is dangerous' 🤣

BraveryBot9to5 · 21/05/2022 15:05

oh yeh, can't remember how my x phrased it, something along the lines of that back-slapping brigade of lesbians encouraging your ''tin pot parade''' (me leaving him because he was abusive)

The problem wasn't that he was abusive!!!

funinthesun19 · 21/05/2022 15:14

Because I’m processing things. And it helps me to recognise that it really could never be vaguely workable.

And now that you’re free of him and can breathe, you’ll be reflecting on things that happened which will stir up different emotions from being elated that it isn’t happening anymore, to being angry at him for what he put you through. Sometimes it takes a while to unpick everything, so take as much time as you need to process it all. It doesn’t always happen overnight.

SoggyPaper · 21/05/2022 19:13

Oh definitely. It’ll take a lot of time and there will be a great deal of anger involved. Because he has been awful.

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RedWingBoots · 23/05/2022 12:35

BonesJones · 21/05/2022 15:03

My exH hated mumsnet too. Because it bolstered my leaving him for being a shit husband. He must still hold a grudge rather than reflecting on his own behaviour because my DS said the other day 'Dad says mumsnet is dangerous' 🤣

Tell your DS if he acts like a shit in any relationship with another person - regardless of whether it is friendship, sibling or whatever - then any forum/social media will be dangerous for him.

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