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Am I being petty?

35 replies

mel0609 · 14/07/2018 22:36

My partner has two children aged 3&5. We pay maintenance every week (£90). We have the kids every other weekend and always spend money on whatever they want to do (actually taking them away next weekend).

The mother of the children always expects more! We still have to fork out for wardrobes of clothes and shoes etc considering we pay money to go towards these things. She use to say we can't have them during the week as it messes up their routine but now she has a new baby with her current partner we are always dragged into having them when it suits her.

My partner says it's his kids he'll do anything but I fee as if she is taking the fucking piss out of us!

Am I being petty?

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NewIdeasToday · 14/07/2018 22:41

Yes you are being petty! Does that help?

Kids are expensive. They need a bedroom (rent/mortgage), food, more food, clothes, shoes, activities, more food.

What’s the problem exactly?

mel0609 · 14/07/2018 22:45

The problem is that she still wants more, she claims benefits and hasn't worked a day in her life. She has support from her current partner and still expects more from us (including me). She expects us to be there when she wants. My partner can't see his kids during the week unless she says it's okay. She guilt trips him into numerous things and I don't think it's fair!

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Aroundtheworldandback · 14/07/2018 22:45

Yes you are. He pays for his small children. Of course you spend money taking them out. Normal, no?

mel0609 · 14/07/2018 22:46

Yes normal but what's not normal is her behaviour towards us

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Snappedandfarted2018 · 14/07/2018 22:47

Kids cost money to fed, cloth and keep warm aswell as treats.

ohreallyohreallyoh · 14/07/2018 22:48

Erm....yes. Get clothes for your home so it feels like home and not somewhere they simply visit by packing and unpacking.

Your partner shouldn’t need to ask you to be allowed to see his children. He should be courteous and discuss with you, particularly if it might involve a change of plan. His children are as much his responsibility as his ex’s and he should pull his weight.

Maybe step parenting isn’t for you?

mel0609 · 14/07/2018 22:49

@ohreallyohreallyoh it's not me saying when he can see his kids it's the mother picking when he can and can't

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LovingLola · 14/07/2018 22:49

Given you also posted this today I think you need to realise that this is not going to end well. His behaviour towards you is not normal.

He doesn't like me talking or working with other men, he doesn't like my family, he doesn't like me wearing makeup as he likes the natural me, he doesn't like me on my phone! Are these things to be worried about?

rainingcatsanddog · 14/07/2018 22:50

Why hasn't your partner gone down the legal route so he can see them on a weekday? Only costs a bit more than £200 for the paperwork and he could self-represent?

NoMudNoLotus · 14/07/2018 22:50

As much as you wont want to hear this - as a step mum whose SC are now 22 and 23 ...

You need to accept that life with SC will never be routine , organised or "set out ".

You will need to pay for additional clothing , food , trips , additional unplanned visits , unplanned late night contact with his ex , or with the children .

Because the children come first . Children do come first .

rainingcatsanddog · 14/07/2018 22:52

Is £90 the CMS minimum amount? It's hard for us to comment on that without knowing his salary.

Dad is responsible for the children's costs when they are with him. (Entertainment, clothing etc)

Doyoumind · 14/07/2018 22:53

If he doesn't like the arrangements they need to be formalised. He can go to court to do this.

Regarding money, what you spend on them when they are with you is completely separate to what is paid in maintenance.

mel0609 · 14/07/2018 22:53

@rainingcatsanddog £90 is more than what he has been asked to pay. He is meant to pay £60 a week. He has raised it to help and she still insists he gives her more a week

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NoMudNoLotus · 14/07/2018 22:53

And yes its shit , but there is often a lot of compensating for the unreasonable parent .

I can hear you say its not what you signed up for ... but the truth is when you marry someone with children, it is what you sign up for , whether you know it at the time or not.

Our relationship was not our own for 10 years until they became adults .

RepealRepealRepeal · 14/07/2018 22:57

I think you may have phrased your post badly. I think what you mean is that you think she's unreasonable in expecting you to pay maintenance in addition to what your dp pays, and in changing the contact arrangements whenever it suits her.

However, as much as this affects you as well, because it's your home as well, they are his children. Of course he's going to provide for them, and of course he wants to see them.

So yabu.
Unless there's a massive backstory?

Wdigin2this · 14/07/2018 23:19

I want to know more about *Lovinglola's post!

Faerie87 · 15/07/2018 02:26

I think what you have to do is mentally separate the SC from how you feel about their mother, otherwise it’s going to affect your relationship with them.

I would also say that what your partner pays in maintainence should be separate and different to the amount you spend on them while they are with you.

To raise children is expensive due to feeding them housing them and keeping them warm this in turn means paying for rent/mortgage, bills, food and clothes. What is paid in maintenance is usually only a drop in the ocean to the cost of all that, however NRPs also have to live so again they can’t give too much to this if it means they can’t afford to live themselves. I may also get crucified for saying this but RPs would also get help towards this in the form of benefits and if they’re working they earn it themselves.

I do hear what you are saying, I have been brought up to believe that you get out of life what you put in and it’s wrong to use kids to get benefits. From your original post it appears that your SC mother has done this? It can get annoying when you see people get help in the form of benefits especially if you have had to work for less then what they’re getting. However, that’s a different issue entirely and benefits for raising children are usually calculated with the best interests of the children in mind so they’re not living below the poverty line, rather than allowing the RP to have a free ride! Believe me they are having to sacrifice a lot on their part in order to raise these kids.

I myself have a Dp who has a child from a previous relationship and we also have a LO together. It can get really frustrating and there are many Ffs moments especially when you’re struggling yourselves and you have to pay out for extra bits that you may feel should be covered under the maintenance and when weekends are swapped and missed at a drop of a hat, you do just have to suck it up unfortunately and not allow it to change the way you treat your SC.

There will also be many posters who reply on this that are in the same shoes as your OH’s ex so I don’t think you will get much sympathy on here I’m afraid.

What I do think you should do is have your partner communicate with his ex about money. Kids are expensive and they will always need new clothes and school uniform and supplies so it’s best to be as open as possible to the whole expense of it all and that way your Dp and his ex can come to an arrangement.

About access and seeing them during the week, I would say again communication is needed, maybe they can set out in writing what they want in terms of this going forward? Yes there are always going to be exceptions! For example if the children are ill or if they have an event on at school or with a friend so it’s a case of being flexible.

As a fellow step parent, I would say, it’s best for your own peace of mind to allow your partner to arrange this with his ex himself, don’t get involved with it, otherwise it can make you feel like crap and hold resentment towards the ex. It’s hard I know because if you see someone you love being treated like crap you immediately want to fight for them! His ex should also not expect your wage to be counted to what is given to your SC, as you are not their parent therefore not legally responsible for them, however as I have said previously your partner may need to sort this out with his ex without you there?

Hope you get everything sorted xx

Spanglyprincess1 · 15/07/2018 05:22

Get a routine agreed. We do a calander once every six months setting out the next six months contact. Helps for planning holiday and school events etc. If you can do this then it's court.
I do understand ref overpaying but it is your partner's choice and the money comes only from him not you. Why are you giving his ex money as that is what your post implies? They his children and it's his chocie if he wants to pay more but that choice shouldn't impact you negatively financially. We split all bills 50:50 Inc most activities for the kids when they are here but maintenance is dp domain only, it dosnt impact what he pays into our household and my income is irrelevant.

BlueBug45 · 15/07/2018 05:38

It isn't up to you to pay their mother any maintenance it is up to your DP. You don't pay the maintenance your DP does.

It is up to you when they are in your house to pay for some of the things they need. Would you seriously let a child go hungry that is staying with you?

It isn't up to you to agree when to see them it is between their mother and their DP.

It is up to you to point out to your DP if the random baby sitting you do is causing a problem particularly to the children's emotional well-being. However if you are doing it because someone in the mother's household is unwell/in hospital then you are being unreasonable.

mel0609 · 15/07/2018 07:19

Thankyou everyone for your comments, when it comes to the expense side of things the mother will only get things for the oldest child leaving the youngest out! She will go out and buy herself new makeup and clothes and get tattoos but won't get the youngest anything; that's where my main problem is! Why is she leaving the one child out?

With concerns to seeing the children, we have a 'rota' (if that's what you'd like to call it) and she herself doesn't stick to this! We have set weekends when we have them but she likes to chop and change to suit her needs (eg her partners friends are coming round for a drink)

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Wherismymind · 15/07/2018 07:46

It is up to you when they are in your house to pay for some of the things they need. Would you seriously let a child go hungry that is staying with you?

I don't agree with this. It's their fathers responsibility to feed and entertain them when they are there. He can't expect his new partner to be paying for food/clothes/days out. If he can't afford these things when they visit he needs to sort out his finances or reduce contact.

Obvs if the partner wants to buy these things fine, but it's unreasonable to say they are in her house she needs to pay to support them. They're not her kids.

Faerie87 · 15/07/2018 07:53

It does sound like she is being really unreasonable, and I think it’s up to your partner to address these issues with her, sometimes it can be difficult though so mediation or court might have to be an option?

Also as much as it is annoying what the ex spends money on whether it be stuff for herself or tattoos should not come into it, it’s unfair I know, but as long as she’s not neglecting the child she spends less on, and I mean by not feeding him or her, sending them out in unsuitable clothes, ie far too small, dirty or unsuitable for the weather! Or making them sleep under the stairs like Harry Potter, There is not a lot you can do.

As long as both yourself and your partner treat them with equal love and affection you should be fine, I know it would be hard but don’t try to overcompensate with the one you feel is getting less spent on them, as it may cause rensentment from the children with you.

Melliegrantfirstlady · 15/07/2018 07:54

Sounds like hell!

Get everything set in stone with a court order.

However it doesn’t seem like dad wants too sooo I think you are stuck!

He is the one allowing things to happen

How about you tell him given the gravity of baggage you have taken on you expect a certain amount of respect and this includes a rota that is set in stone?

swingofthings · 15/07/2018 08:49

When you say it's not fair, do you mean not fair on you? Because clearly it suits her, the kids get to spend more time with their dad and he seemed to be ok with the situation.

Remember that it has nothing to do with not wanting to make her life good but about what suits everyone, so stop focusing on her and focus on yourself. How is it unfair to you? Is it because you've got to pick up more work when they are with you, cooking, washing etc... Because you are supporting your OH financially and so by him doing more, you are getting less for yourself?

If the latter is the problem, then make it clear with your oh that when his kids are home, he needs to do the cooking, cleaning, washing etc... and that you want your finances to be separate, so that what he pays for his kids in addition to the maintenance comes out of what he earns.

If you continue to torture yourself setting your mind on how your OH shouldn't do to be nice to her, you are going to make yourself miserable.

funinthesun18 · 15/07/2018 09:33

It’s funny how the mum has a new baby and is allowed to decide she doesn’t want the older children around when it suits her, but if you were to have a new baby with your dh and you decided you didn’t want the older children around you would be seen as out of order.

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