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Ex’s wedding - help me draft a response!

114 replies

TabbyTigger · 12/06/2018 10:01

So my DD1 is not biologically related to me, she is DH’s from an earlier relationship. They split before DD1 was born but managed to sort of patchily co-parent until she was about 3, when DD1’s mum got a job that involved moving to Berlin and decided to leave DD1 with DH (he was willing to give up everything and move to Germany to be near them but DD1’s birth mother said that would make it impossible to “start afresh” and rejected those plans). When I met DH DD1 was 4, and I met her when she was 5. She’s now 14. I adopted her when she was 9, it was a smooth process - her mum agreed, had been paying minimum maintenance and had come over to see DD1 once in the 6 years she’d lived abroad (but came over a few times in between to see old friends...) and DH had taken DD1 over there to visit four times but had to stay in hotels/airbnbs because ex wouldn’t let them stay with her (she has a new partner and two new daughters and said she didn’t have space and didn’t want want to disrupt their family life), and then only met up with the them a days so it was an expensive and somewhat unrewarding venture for DH.

Since the adoption went through DH has taken DD1 out twice more (but receives the same level of cooperation) and we made the visit a family holiday and tried to arrange for DD1 to spend some time with ex while we didn’t other things, but again ex wasn’t very cooperative.

A few weeks ago I received a text from from ex asking if DD1 would be bridesmaid for her wedding and if I could please pay for flights and accommodation for DD1. I asked why she couldn’t just stay with ex and her family and got the usual vague response about disruption, so it would mean either me or DH going with DD1 as I don’t want her staying on her own. Ex then gave us the dates - they’re when we are meant to be on holiday. I have spoken to DD (who is now 14) about it, and she says she’d rather come on holiday than attend this wedding. She has always said she feels awkward around ex (who she doesn’t even call mum - she calls her by her name and now calls me mum) and knows ex hasn’t made her particularly welcome (even though we’ve tried our best to hide that and make excuses for ex).

How do I tell the ex that DD1 won’t be attending her wedding? (or should I be pushing DD1 to go?).

Current draft is:
Hello,
I’ve spoken to DD1 and she’s not keen on the idea of coming. She doesn’t feel she knows the rest of your family very well, and the dates clash with our holiday which she was really looking forward to! If you’d like to arrange something for later in summer I’d be more than happy to work out how to facilitate that.

She doesn’t have DD1’s number and she’s asked for it but I don’t want DD1 to have to deal with the situation on her own.

OP posts:
Bananasinpyjamas11 · 12/06/2018 12:58

The response sounds fine.

It’s probably a strange time for her, coming into her teens and her identity. And now her ‘mother’ who hasn’t been her mum is getting married. I wonder if she can talk to her Dad or anyone else too about how she feels.

SoxonFeet · 12/06/2018 13:06

You sound like a wonderful mother and it seems clear that your DD is able to talk to you about what she wants and knows that she feels safe with you (and DH).

Whatever the outcome, you got a great parent/daughter relationship there.

Starlight345 · 12/06/2018 13:09

My initial response would be tell her to fuck off... however you are a far better person than I am.

Your DD is very lucky to have you.

I am also sure she will have a much nicer time on holiday with her family.

Can I just ask..Does she actually want to go and visit her at all? At 14 I would be supporting her not going if she doesn't want to..This woman has no legal rights to ask for anything..It should always be on DD terms.

Sessy19 · 12/06/2018 13:13

Great message. Well navigated. Lovely family 😊

AnneLovesGilbert · 12/06/2018 22:30

You’re a gem OP. DH and all of your DC are very lucky to have you.

You’re handling this really well. Absolutely right to leave out any specifics or mention of the holiday. It’s not a discussion and DD is old enough to have an opinion and make a choice.

I hope there’s no fall out from the ex but whatever she has to say you’re doing the right thing and protecting your daughter.

SandyY2K · 12/06/2018 22:34

I just want to say you sound like a lovely person.

How cheeky of the Ex to request and expect you to pay for the trip and accommodation. She's got some front after literally abandoning her DD.

Your letter is fine...but why didn't she ask your DH?

Butterymuffin · 12/06/2018 22:35

You're doing the right thing. Protect her from this awful woman.

Timeisslippingaway · 12/06/2018 22:44

I can't believe a mother left her own daughter to start a fresh, what a bitch!
Your text sounds perfect, maybe just a little too nice. Don't think I could be as nice to a woman like that.

SingleDingle · 12/06/2018 22:49

Wow, you and the ex are complete polar opposites.

If only all kids ended up with a mum like you Star

YearOfYouRemember · 12/06/2018 22:50

Seems like everyone has forgotten the dd has been adopted.

Why let the ex try and use the daughter to save face.

OP she's YOURS. You don't have to answer to the ex.

TabbyTigger · 12/06/2018 23:46

why didn't she ask your DH?

After the last visit he had a go at her so I think she knew he’d say no. I imagined she’d try to ask DD directly if she had her phone number, but I’m not letting them have direct contact. I don’t think she’s healthy.

We went through the adoption process because we decided I was DD’s mum by role and DD’s biological mum could be treated as more of an “aunt” figure. We didn’t want to cut off completely and whenever we’ve talked to ex she’s said she also didn’t want to cut off completely - she moans that we don’t come over enough (but never offers to contribute financially or to come over here, even though we’ve said she and her family would be welcome with us or with PILs). We visit as often as is feasible for us financially, and as a family - we don’t enjoy having DH and DD away for 8-10 days, it just feels weird!

I want to lay into her and tell her how awful she’s been and warn her that if she’s not careful DD will start to actively dislike her (I think she’s already starting to feel a bit cold to her), but I also don’t want to severe ties - I want to let DD decide when/if she’s ready to cut off, and not make her feel like relations between me and ex have to be factored in, if that makes sense. I worry that if I fall out with ex DD might think she has to reject ex too, out of loyalty or something. I want to stay as neutral as possible, while still fighting DD’s corner.

And an update - her response was received about an hour and a half ago -
“I think it would be good for her to be at her mum’s wedding. Disappointed you decided to play it like this and we’re busy the rest of the holiday. Surely any clashes can be rearranged around such a big day and getting some time with her mum?”

Hmm love that she’s playing the mum card. Don’t think I can respond clearly tonight so am leaving it to tomorrow. Want to keep this cool and calm.

OP posts:
Rollercoaster1920 · 12/06/2018 23:57

Have people lost the ability to speak? So much via text these days, drags these things out. She should phone, be told a few truths (politely), then you can all move on. And your husband should deal with her, she is his baggage! Let him say no.

sue51 · 13/06/2018 00:06

How dare she call herself mum. You are the mum figure in the girls life. She hasn't earned the right to be disappointed.

SingleDingle · 13/06/2018 00:27

“I think you’re perhaps not best placed to judge what is good for her, and haven’t been for quite some time. We have discussed as a family, and are satisfied that your wedding means fuck all to her nothing needs rearranged. Do enjoy your holiday”.

I know you won’t, because you’re a better person than me. But she’s an arsehole, OP!

MadameJosephine · 13/06/2018 00:40

‘Getting some time with her mum’ Angry

What a cow! She doesn’t get to use that title, she hasn’t earned it. YOU are her mum!

I’m so glad your DD has you in her life, it must be hard for her to be treated so poorly by a biological parent but as you demonstrate do well, there’s more to families than DNA

moofolk · 13/06/2018 00:55

Do not reply to that last message.

ThreeIsACharm · 13/06/2018 00:58

I'm sorry 'mum time' She won't even let her daughter stay in the same bloody house as her.
OP you are a wonderful woman and your daughter is so lucky to have you in her life.

Oswin · 13/06/2018 01:04

Im not sure i would be around enough not to reply you are not her fucking mum.
Cheeky twat she is.

Starlight345 · 13/06/2018 07:17

I also wouldn't reply..

No more good will come of any reply.

It would of been good for her to spend some time with her mum many years ago..She lost the right to play the mum card many years ago.

A wedding as actually the last place she would get quality time with her mum..

YessicaHaircut · 13/06/2018 07:25

Your poor DD! Probably time for your DH to phone her now, otherwise there’ll be texts going back and forth. Sounds like you’re doing a great job OP and I can see why she’d rather stick to your holiday plans. Good luck!

AtrocityNeedles · 13/06/2018 07:31

YOU are her mum. I would not even respond anymore.

Knitjob · 13/06/2018 07:33

I would not reply. There is nothing more to be said. Replying just drags it out and you are not going to change your mind.

ny20005 · 13/06/2018 07:40

I think I'd reply, that's a shame your busy for the rest of the holidays. Let us know when you want to arrange to see her & then leave any contact to her

Don't think I'd be paying to take her to her either - let her make the effort or else just reply 'that doesn't suit us

sexnotgender · 13/06/2018 07:41

Wow, she is very manipulative! Her ‘mum’ won’t even let her stay in her house!

You’re handling this really well and your daughter is lucky to have you in her life.

sexnotgender · 13/06/2018 07:41

Also why the heck should you pay? She wants her there then she puts her hand in her pocket.