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9yo Boy sleeping in DSD’s room

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TinaGurner · 24/03/2018 08:10

I have some serious concerns about my DSD’s mum’s relationship. I’m not usually bothered what goes on in their home as long as the children are happy and cared for.
So as not to drip feed their mum has a long history of having inappropriate bfs, either very young or questionable criminal backgrounds, just not the sort of people you’d ideally like around your children but we’ve kept out of her business up until now.

Most recent bf she’s been with about a year (which is the longest relationship I’ve known her have), he moved in after 3 months of dating and the SDs had only met him a few times before he was permanently in their home which is worrying enough. He has a bad reputation for drug use, violent conduct (admittedly not domestic which is a mild relief) and other criminal activity.

This man has 3 sons I know of. 1 he denies all knowledge of (but it is well known he is the father, mother of the child makes it no secret but she’s happy for him to not be in the child’s life). 2nd child he is currently only allowed access to via a contact centre, previously had been denied access to for 15 months, and mother of this child is adamant she won’t allow unsupervised access because she has serious safeguarding concerns. There have also been concerns he is only attempting to gain access to this child to be vindictive to the mother as he has not bothered to turn up to the contact centre for his visits on several occasions and refuses to pay and child support.

And 3rd child he saw sporadically until recently but now he’s living with SD’s mother he has been having him every other Saturday night at their house.

So other than our previous concerns our main one is that this 9yo boy is now sleeping on the floor in 9yo SD’s bedroom every other weekend.
I understand their house is small and space is limited but I just don’t think it’s appropriate for a boy of that age who is a virtual stranger to be sleeping unsupervised in my SD’s bedroom.
And what age will it stop? It’s a tiny box bedroom so they’re in close proximity and SD has told us how uncomfortable it makes her feel.

DP tried to talk to their mother about it but she got really defensive and said “Well she shares a room with Tina’s DD when she’s with you”.
This is true but my DD is a year younger and they want to share a room together, it’s not the same as sharing with a boy she doesn’t know who’s almost a year older than SD.
DP asked why doesn’t the child sleep in their room or on the sofa and her response was “No, we like our privacy”. But she’s not allowing her own daughter any privacy?

What can we do about this? Currently his SD is coming to me every time this child stays over because she doesn’t want to be sharing a bedroom with him but then she’s also unhappy about him sleeping in her room when she’s not there.

I can’t always have her either because DP and I don’t live together and he works weekends twice a month. I have two children of my own and want to help my SD but I’m not always available to. DP can’t afford to give up the weekend work as he’s barely keeping his head above water financially as it is.
What other options do we have?

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TinaGurner · 24/03/2018 11:04

If the child is upset and uncomfortable with it then her mother should be taking that seriously.
I’m shocked at what you just said

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rach01pink · 24/03/2018 11:04

Its extremely inappropriate

fascinated · 24/03/2018 11:06

And bingo, swing of things does exactly what I said

Save your faux outrage, it’s misdirected here. Open your eyes to the real issue.

swingofthings · 24/03/2018 11:07

If the child is upset and uncomfortable with it then her mother should be taking that seriously
Which is exactly what I wrote but you mentioned her mother not being a safe parent. How does that make her an unsafe parent? An uncaring selfish one, maybe, but not safe, why?

fascinated · 24/03/2018 11:07

Because of what she is teaching the child about boundaries! You’re splitting hairs

swingofthings · 24/03/2018 11:10

What boundaries? It is only an issue if there is a risk, so what risk do you think the SD is being put under if the 9yo is sleeping in the same room? I'm assuming you don't think it would be an issue if it was a girl, so what do you think this boy might do that a girl of the same age wouldn't?

swingofthings · 24/03/2018 11:11

Oh and wonder if OP would have got the same response if it was the other way around, ie. her SC was the boy and the other child was a girl?

TinaGurner · 24/03/2018 11:12

If the child is upset and uncomfortable with it then her mother should be taking that seriously
Which is exactly what I wrote but you mentioned her mother not being a safe parent. How does that make her an unsafe parent? An uncaring selfish one, maybe, but not safe, why?

Swing did you read any of my posts? Even the OP? She’s putting both SDs in an unsafe position by having the bf live in their house in the first place! Let alone then disregarding her DD’s feelings and teaching her that her privacy and boundaries aren’t worth anything to her.

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TinaGurner · 24/03/2018 11:14

Swing even if it was the other way around I would be saying exactly the same. Children are allowed to want to have privacy and if SD was a SS and saying he didn’t want a girl in his room and it was upsetting him then I would still be saying their mother needs to put his feelings first.
Poor kids

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fascinated · 24/03/2018 11:17

He doesn’t have to do anything. It’s the fact that she is not allowed to say no to his presence. Has the world moved on now to the point that children are not allowed to feel uncomfortable with sharing with the opposite sex and modesty is not a thing any more? No doubt you think this is “prudish”.

TinaGurner · 24/03/2018 11:20

And seeing as you want to keep making this about being predators and paedophiles, as I said my close friend is a social worker and sexual abuse and misconduct between children is a lot more common than you think. He is not SD’s family, he is an older boy she has only met a dozen times or less and she is upset at being forced to sleep next to him.
The last reason alone should be enough for her mother to stop it happening.
I think it’s appalling that it’s allowed to continue and I’m shocked anyone would think otherwise.

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TinaGurner · 24/03/2018 11:22

@fascinated exactly!
Why would she continually make her own DD so upset

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swingofthings · 24/03/2018 11:27

She’s putting both SDs in an unsafe position by having the bf live in their house in the first place!
If that's what her father believes, why didn't he do anything about it the moment he moved in, which it would seem was 9 months ago. The OP is about the child sleeping in her room, not about the boyfriend making her unsafe.

Children are allowed to want to have privacy and if SD was a SS and saying he didn’t want a girl in his room and it was upsetting him then I would still be saying their mother needs to put his feelings first
Again I agree, but lack of privacy doesn't equate being unsafe.

So it is about predators and paedophiles as I thought. Did your friend also told you that in many cases of child abuse, it's actually a family members that carries the abuse, and often one who is never suspected? The boy is only a few months older not a teenager.

Again, I AGREE that her being upset about it needs to be considered but there is no need to throwing accusation of concern over abuse, let alone sexual abuse just because he happens to be male because the reality is that this post wouldn't exist if he was a girl, even if she didn't know her well.

LongWavyHair · 24/03/2018 11:32

The couch isn't a reasonable solution though is it?
Would you make your stepchild sleep on the sofa?

LongWavyHair · 24/03/2018 11:37

Im interested to know what threat a 9yo boy poses?

My sdd shares a room with her younger brother but I suppose that's different because she's a girl?

TinaGurner · 24/03/2018 11:37

@Swingofthings if you had RTFT then you would know we have tried to intervene on several occasions but he claims he is not living in there, moves out for a short while then comes back. DP is trying everything within the law that he can.
And yes it is often family members or those living in the household including step siblings.
I just think it’s wrong to force them to share such a small space when SD is so uncomfortable with it.
Your children are siblings, my children would happily share but they wouldn’t necessarily like to share with Mum’s latests bf’s older child.
I can’t believe you’re arguing about it to be honest?

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TinaGurner · 24/03/2018 11:41

Longwavyhair no I absolutely would not make my SDs sleep on the sofa, I would have ensured we had space for all the DCs before even considering moving in but hey that’s just me.
I also wouldn’t let them sleep on the floor in another child’s room who is happy with it.
The sofa is not a reasonable suggestion but is a better option that sleeping on a duvet on the floor in a box room.

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fascinated · 24/03/2018 11:43

Tina

Many people on here just cannot see the big picture

I don’t know how anyone can be so wilfully blind, but I think it says a lot about Society’s attitude to vulnerable young girls

TinaGurner · 24/03/2018 11:43

Also Longwavyhair your child is SD’s brother not a virtual stranger who she cries about being forced to share a room with. These situations are incomparable Confused

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VioletCharlotte · 24/03/2018 11:44

*Why would she continually make her own DD so upset?
*
Because she's a crap parent who puts her boyfriends before her children.

Unfortunately though, there's lots of parents like this. From what you've said, the situation isn't bad enough for SS to get involved, so it's really up to your partner to do whatever he can to help. How often does her have his daughter?

swingofthings · 24/03/2018 11:45

Surely if SS got involved, they assessed whether he was a threat to the child, even if only 'visiting'.

Again, we are not disagreeing, I too feel sorry for your SD. It is a sad situation. I only reacted to the comment that her mother was not a safe parent.

By the way, my kids had to share a room with their SS when they visited from the start so at the beginning, they would have hardly know each other. In my case, they were older girls to my boy (one 4 years older). It didn't cross my mind a second that this was inappropriate. Not comfortable, certainly, unsafe, no reason to believe so.

TinaGurner · 24/03/2018 11:45

@VioletCharlotte it’s split so he has her 3 nights a week usually

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TinaGurner · 24/03/2018 11:48

@swiftofthings that’s amusing considering I’ve seen your previous comments on posts about room divisions Hmm
I would never allow my children to live with or share rooms with children they barely know, especially if they’re unhappy about it. I wouldn’t put my relationship before my children’s happiness.
I thought your DH had no DCs?

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TinaGurner · 24/03/2018 11:49

Or was it at exH’s house?

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TinaGurner · 24/03/2018 11:50

And what if you child had been crying and saying they don’t want to share with the older SC as it made them uncomfortable? What would you have done?

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