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ExH new partner.....

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badgerread · 29/02/2016 10:55

My exH and I split up 6 years ago. I have had a new partner for 3.5years (we don't live together) he has had one for 2.5 years and has just moved in with her and her 4 children (2.5hrs drive away)

We have two DS together (11 & 6) and up until 3/4 months ago had an amicable relationship. We would go to parents evening, school plays together, he would pop in and chat about the boys when dropping them off etc. Now the relationship has broken down. His new GF wants to arrange all contact and arrangements and he now never responds to my texts/calls and will only ever speak to me if he's driving home from work or if she is not there. I collected my DS's from him yesterday and text to see if he was at the meeting place, but she responded from her phone, he also asked me to text her when arranging collection this weekend, my response was, 'Why would I do that when I can text you?'. Apparently she has no relationship with her ex and therefore doesn't like ours. She has also asked him to start making separate appointments for parents evenings etc. It's really, really frustrating and I'm tempted to tell him to grow a pair.... My partner would never dream of acting like this and he also has two DS's with his ex. I just don't get why she feels the need to take over?? he has admitted she hates the fact we have any history and is jealous but FGS sake we're all mid 40's can't we all just grow up a bit!

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FeelingFine89 · 04/03/2016 20:54

This isn't the first time this has happened is it either? If their little brother is only 3 then I bet they've never actually celebrated a single birthday with him. Very sad to purposely exclude them like that.

badgerread · 04/03/2016 20:55

Oh lookluv :( how bloody awful. My Mum keeps telling me the boys will realise when they get older but at the moment the sun shines out of his backside and he can do no wrong. Case in point last night, exH called my mobile at 17:55 twice (on way home from work) I was at a yoga class and Mum was looking after the children, they called him back at around 19:15 but he didn't answer or call back as he was obviously back home by then.

Big hairy kahunas! :D

MissyBCT - I agree with lookluv, you sound like you have the perfect balance. My DP and his ex have a fractious relationship at times, they have 50/50 care and God forbid one of them should have 2 hours more than the other. I try and stay out of it unless he specifically asks for my I have enough going on with my own ball-less ex....

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lookluv · 05/03/2016 10:02

feeling fine - correct!

Did not even phone to say good night.

Castasunder · 05/03/2016 12:07

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lunar1 · 05/03/2016 14:26

Cast, I think that it's the mum's boyfriend missy is talking about, not the dss love life. Unless I read it wrong. Wouldn't be the first time!!

Castasunder · 05/03/2016 15:22

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TheFormidableMrsC · 05/03/2016 16:13

My ex-husband's solicitor told him that "meeting" should be a nine month minimum.

Castasunder · 05/03/2016 16:49

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TheFormidableMrsC · 05/03/2016 17:03

Castasunder, you are of course correct, it's not law. However, most solicitors will recommend a minimum of 9 months (in my experience).

Castasunder · 05/03/2016 20:12

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TheFormidableMrsC · 05/03/2016 21:28

Catsasunder...I don't disagree with you at all actually. However, my kids have been so very affected by my divorce (despite my best efforts otherwise) that I would not under any circumstances introduce them to anybody else now. Not a chance. That life is kept separate from them. I probably have a very skewed view though, I accept that. My ex-h on the other hand, has shoehorned himself into four single parent families thus far, left behind a trial of 7 "step children" and I will not, under any circumstances, allow my ASD DS to be dragged along on his ride. I am sure you'll get where I am coming from..!

missybct · 06/03/2016 00:01

Lol - Cats Thanks

I'm so thrilled that you feel my supporting my DP's feelings toward his ex is 'controlling' - at no point did I see this was MY point of view only, rather that it was a reflection on both DP's and mine. We both felt that introducing someone as early as 3 days into a child's life was not the wisest idea, but if you read again, you'll see that the real issue was that she lied to DP not once, not twice but four times - we've since found out that this guy stayed overnight, at the confusion of my DSS when he spoke about it this weekend to us.

Again, if you'd read my prior message or decided not to pull on judgy pants quite so quickly, you'd also have read that DPs ex has prior form for both lying and drip feeding information to both DP and I. We have been through hell and back trying to bend over backwards to accommodate someone that refuses to accept responsibility for a dissolution of a relationship, and in spite of having my own character annihilated because DPs ex hated the fact HE moved on, I have remained open minded and approachable to his ex for the sake of my DSS, who lives in the same house of me 50% of the time.

At no point did I say this man was dangerous; I simply said she has compromised her safety for a man she barely knows. Now if you want to play holier than thou and accuse me of being controlling, I really couldn't care less, because I would say the same fucking thing to any of my friends dating for the first time - I know concessions can be made, but from the area we are from, it's just wiser to be cautious. This is without the fact DSS believed his mother was seeing someone else, and had been since August last year - so to be introduced to a different person has been highly confusing for him.

As for my own 'moral high ground' - my meeting DSS was a mutual arrangement between the 3 of us. DPs ex insisted she met me before introducing DSS, and we agreed that it wouldn't be before 2 month mark because she wouldn't be comfortable with that. I respected her wishes, even though DSS had repeatedly mentioned to DP that he wanted to meet me. At all times, I have respected her wishes, as has DP, yet despite DPs ex stating time and time again any new partner would meet DP first before DSS, she introduced him after three days, and lied to my DP.

That is disrespectful to the other partner - who still contributes to a mortgage, who has tolerated countless emotional outbursts and blame games, who was told he was a useless dad, and who ultimately had the respect to ensure her feelings were at all times considered when introducing a new person into their sons life. As my DP's fiancée, why the fuck can't I agree with that? I'm not controlling her life, I'm merely agreeing with the partner I've watched being undermined in the only scenario he was firm on - he'd like to meet new person before DSS, simple.

OutToGetYou · 06/03/2016 00:46

Your DP's DS shouldn't have known anything about you to be able to even ask that early on. Once they know of course they are going to ask to meet you, that doesn't make it right.
2 months is way too early.

We waited about ten months and even then it only happened by accident as the ex came round with dss out of the blue and let herself into the house (even though my car was on the drive and so she knew he would be meeting me for the first time unprepared), luckily we were just sitting having a cup of tea.
I'd have left it longer myself.

And it is totally part of the decision of the new partner when they meet the kids, they may never want to meet them and that has to be their choice as they decide with their partner what sort of relationship they want.

missybct · 06/03/2016 07:23

DPs ex had mentioned to DSS about me first, actually, not DP. So please don't assume either I or DP were orchestrating that. DP told his ex about me, and she for whatever reason decided to tell DSS.

Out - I find it bizarre that you are criticising me meeting DSS after 2 months without acknowledging that DSS Mum has introduced someone she met a week ago to DSS three times in the last 5 days?

I'm not sure why this topic has become about me, when the OPs problem was far more profound than the one I've mentioned.

OutToGetYou · 06/03/2016 10:03

I didn't assume that, nor did I say it, funny you feel so defensive about it.
As for criticising you, not her, you are here bragging, she is not.

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missybct · 06/03/2016 11:05

Please refer me to the place where it suggests I'm painting myself in a better light, Cast? I referred to my meeting of DSS, but if you'd prefer, would you like me to use examples of other stepparent meetings so you can stop accusing me of taking the moral high ground? I simply gave my perspective because it is my own, and at no point did I say "this is right and that is wrong" - I said "this is what she considered fair, and this is what she suggested would be done when she met someone"

Being judged and feeling judged are two different entities, also. I imagine you have taken umbrage because I've had the audacity to voice an opinion - I am wondering if this is striking a nerve with you. If this is the case, I'm sorry you've experienced something that is causing you to lash out at me when other people have commented that they feel my stance on being a SM is very balanced.

My ex went with her demands because we felt they were very reasonable, and because he respects her as a mother. Have you experienced co-parenting, by any chance? This is a normal thing - both parents decide whats normal and reasonable, and you respect it. My DP, like his ex, merely expressed that he too would like to be first to meet her partner, and she agreed to this as recently as a week ago.

I would respectfully ask you to consider how YOU would feel being lied to, and then picking up the pieces when you are trying to help your stepson make sense of something that you cannot understand because, funnily enough, you've been lied to. How does DP or I explain to him when we do not have the knowledge? What his mother does is her choice, but when it comes to affecting the stability of a young child, who lives with his Dad and I 50% of the time, it becomes our issue and our business.

I'd also like to ask you how you would feel if you son or daughter was being cared for under my roof, and whether you'd prefer I took absolutely no interest in his or her outside influences, challenges or stability. I always find this particularly amusing - many people assume step-parents quite simply shut the door on the kids when they leave and that's that for another week. Fact is, you couldn't be more wrong - I love my stepson, and that means loving him 24/7. If his stability or state of mind is being compromised, irrespective of intent or malice, it becomes my issue and my business because I take being a parental figure seriously, which is something DP's ex has always appreciated. Voicing an opinion doesn't always mean anger or disapproval, you'll find in the course of my relationship with DP I have worked with DP's ex to support and bring up DSS which includes plenty of instances of "That's a fab idea" Grin

This is the kind of shit that really does perpetuate this idea that stepparents should cease to have an opinion or voice within blended families - that somehow poor decisions (and as a threesome, we have ALL made them, so the 'moral high ground' stuff is nonsense, frankly) should be ignored by the stepparent because they 'don't have the right'. I always find it incredibly alarming that you get people coming in here saying 'she has no right' and 'she needs to butt out' but also expects the stepparent to treat their children with respect and love. Respecting and loving anybody means protecting them, being honest with other people and admitting when you've made mistakes. I suppose by your logic, I don't have the right to love or protect him, as we don't have the right to politely say to DP's ex "Look, we're disappointed in how it worked out, but it's done now, so please be honest with us from now on as we just want whats best for DSS". I suppose next time my DSS is calling out for me in the night or asking me for food, I should turn a blind eye because "I'm just the stepmum", yeah? Perhaps next time he has a bad reaction to something that I feel could be eliminate from his diet, I should just "keep my nose out" because someone on MN's said that possibly disagreeing with DSS's Mum means I'm an angry lady Smile

I didn't realise that people who lied were universally being controlled. I didn't realise there had to be this background psychology behind it - DP's ex lied because she knew it pissed upon her promises to DP and that rightly, he would be annoyed - it's really not any more complicated than that. But sure, if you want to paint us as the demanding, controlling, interfering parents, be my guest. I'm not sure how you think a group of 30 year old adults can control each other, but maybe that's your experience, not mine. As I believe I stated earlier in the topic, we in fact have a very good balance between the 3 of us and the fact that my DP's ex actively speaks to me freely kind of renders the "stay out of her life" point redundant - but I'll let her know that a lady on the internet told me I'm controlling Smile.

missybct · 06/03/2016 11:13

badgerread - Sorry that this has taken over your original post btw. I hope it resolves itself in due course.

Castasunder - if you wish to communicate your opinions on my character or have any further advice on how be less 'angry' (as clearly you feel strongly enough about me to target me in someone else's topic), my inbox is always open Grin

missybct · 06/03/2016 11:22

Actually, scrap that Castasunder - I took the liberty to check your old posts because I wondered whether I was saying something that upset you personally and wanted to avoid it; I can see you've had difficulties with your ex and his partner and your DD.

I'm sorry you've experienced the difficulties you have, because me and DP know how it feels to be slated and tarred. I now know you are in the same position as DP's ex, so naturally you probably feel more kinship with her than I and that's understandable. Because of this, I feel it would be better to agree to disagree and go on our seperate ways rather than hash this out online.

I hope your situation has eased too Flowers

Castasunder · 06/03/2016 13:00

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RudeElf · 06/03/2016 13:20

Who the fuck are all these idiots that tell their DC about new partners or their other parent's new partners within days or weeks and then introduce them almost straight away. What is the bloody rush? Poor kids.

missybct · 06/03/2016 13:35

Castasunder Flowers I'm not angry at DP's ex, but carry on with your assumption. I'm not taking your bait.

RudeElf - agreed. I'm not sure whyCastasunder claims we are controlling and angry, because if any of my friends suggested introducing a new partner they've met once to their child after 3 days, I'd be as vocal as I have in this case about safety and not rushing for sake of kids. They had no pre-existing relationship either. In fact, if anyone was to post the same question on MN, I'd imagine the large majority of replies would scream "Hell fucking no" - nevermind, swings and roundabouts Grin.

Castasunder · 06/03/2016 14:27

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missybct · 06/03/2016 15:40

Could you refer me to where I have been ironic?

Castasunder · 06/03/2016 15:43

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