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Step-mum issues with my 13 year old, what on earth do I do?

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MaryRose · 07/07/2014 10:53

My 13 year old is having real problems when visiting her dad and I don't know what to do!!! We have been divorced for 9 years and I generally get on ok with her Dad, but it just seems her step mum is causing all kinds of problems recently. It started a few months ago when my DD would tell me that her dad and step mum would take my younger DD (10) out shopping etc and leave her home for long periods on her own. To be fair older DD was always invited but she's at that age where she can be stubborn, however I felt they should sometimes ask her what she would like to do etc so she didn't feel left out. About this time she also started saying step mum always favoured my younger DD and was quite horrible to her. I arranged to meet her Dad for a coffee to talk it over, then the step mum told him he couldn't meet me and we would have to talk on the phone about it!!!!! Which we did. Things got better for a while but now they are getting worse again. DD texted me yesterday saying she wanted to come home as she was in trouble for keeping her phone in her room when she went to bed, and step mum had said she was causing trouble and they needed to have 'a long talk' when she got home from work. Fair enough DD had broken the rules but it seemed to be a bot over the top, I didn't see why they couldn't just say to her in the morning she shouldn't have done it and leave it at that rather than it building up to this big conversation about the fact that she had had her phone when she wasn't meant to. I called her dad and we had an amicable chat, he subsequently spoke to her about the phone whilst step mum was out, laid down the rules firmly but fairly and all seemed to be fine, we discussed the issues with her feeling left out and he came up with sensible ideas such as a rota of choosing what the girls do etc.

Then DD comes home from dad's in tears yesterday. It seems step mum was not satisfied with how dad had dealt with the phone issue and when she got home from work really ripped into DD over dinner, telling her she had had six years of her and was sick of her, that her and her dad are on the point of splitting up over her, that she was going to call me and tell me what she thinks of my daughter (I wish she had, I would have welcomed that call) and all kinds of other horrible stuff. Clearly she was cross that my X and I had spoken on the phone and sorted it out amicably. Feel so sorry for DD she is being put in the middle of what are obviously issues in their relationship. I know my D is 13 and by definition not always easy but this seems to border on emotional abuse to me, particularly saying that they will split up because of her, she only goes every other weekend for heaven's sake! The thing is, when there are difficulties, I can talk to her dad, who is generally really reasonable, he then talks to DD in a reasonable manner and all seems fine then step mum comes in and throws her weight around for no apparent reason!!! I know it is difficult being a step parent but I have a step daughter myself and would never dream of saying things like this to her. DD now says she doesn't want to go to her dad's anymore and I don't blame her, but I don't see why this woman should ruin my daughter's relationship with her dad. Help?????

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Boomeranggirl · 07/07/2014 12:14

Did they agreed though or did HE agree to the French trip? He might have had a Disney dad moment and agreed with you about it without discussing it with his wife. I get the point that he's her dad and not everything should go through his wife but if they have joint finances then this could be a bone of contention.

I'm not trying to bash your good intentions MaryRose in protecting your daughter and tbh the state of their marriage isn't your problem, you are looking out for your kid. I just think that there's probably a lot of issues swirling around at the moment and teenagers arnt always conducive to a harmonious household! Does the SM have her own kids?

Boomeranggirl · 07/07/2014 12:17

It shouldn't have been raised in front of DD though, agree with Owl on that. If her dad agreed then that's his issue to deal with and she shouldn't bear the brunt of conflict over it. Just offering another perspective as to why the SM might be pissed off.

MaryRose · 07/07/2014 12:47

French trip, well I had a text saying 'we will pay half at £20 month', so I assume there was a discussion, if not then surely that's between the two of them though and DD shouldn't be made to feel guilty about the cost? SM doesn't have her own kids, DD has told me previously she can't hasten, I don't know if that is accurate or not. I'm conscious I may be coming across as wanting to bash sm when clearly there are several people at fault, DD included, and believe me she can be a pain in the arse, but I have her 24/7 and only lose it every so often (and would never say such hurtful things) XH and SM only have her once a fortnight, surely they could find a way to get on just two weekends a month?

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MaryRose · 07/07/2014 12:48

*can't have them

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NatashaBee · 07/07/2014 13:08

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rosepetalsoup · 07/07/2014 13:40

Lol that's funny Natasha - my DH's ex also tried to "go through me" but we didn't have it. I'm very removed.

OP my DSD defected from our household age 13 doing almost all the things you list here (without the complaints about me I should add!!) She refused to come out with us preferring to stay at home/FB then was annoyed when she hadn't been out for lunch/shopping etc. She also refused to eat normal meals but then obviously went home saying she'd had only crisps and energy drinks for dinner etc.

She was also naughty, typical teen, wanted to go out all night with old people she'd met online and wouldn't agree to a curfew / being dropped off at friends' houses etc. She often lost her temper and smashed things up, got told off then went home glum.

In the end she's decided not to visit much any more, which is sad. However she's just the same at her mum's. Coming out of it now, at pushing 20! [whyisn'tthereagodhelpmesmiley]

MaryRose · 07/07/2014 14:02

I don't doubt my DD can be vile rosepetalmum. I still don't think she's been treated in an appropriate manner by sm though. Anyway I have texted XH to suggest me him and DD meet up. Just fir a bit of background, he was abusive to me during the 7 years we were together which was the catalyst for us splitting up. Dd1 remembers this, younger DD doesn't, but perhaps I am being overprotective because I don't want DD to have to live in a house with conflict again!

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rosepetalsoup · 07/07/2014 14:10

Oh that makes it all different, and poor you. From your post he came across as a real wet blanket, rather than pushy and abusive, but perhaps they are an abusive pair.

Tbh I think people bow too much to the holy grail of EoW contact. If your DD is having a crap time and your Ex and his partner are finding it hard to deal with her then why not suggest she doesn't come for a bit and instead meets dad for a relaxed pizza tea once a week instead? The other DD can still go. I really reckon that would release the pressure all round, and you could be extra nice to your old DD to make it obv that this was being done for her rather than bec. she's done something wrong.

rosepetalsoup · 07/07/2014 14:12

What I mean is it's sometimes "EOW contact" that fails, rather than the actual relationships at stake, but the issues get blurred.

MaryRose · 07/07/2014 18:29

Yes I agree rosepetalsoup. We used to have EOW with my stepdaughter but as she got older we had to accept that wasn't ideal for her, she was missing out on things and we adjusted contact accordingly. Hard my my DD as Dad lives 20 miles away and she has no friends there, so she is effectively isolated from Friday to Sunday evening, which does make it harder for her when things are not going right, she can't just go and hang out with a friend for a bit.

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CountryGal13 · 08/07/2014 08:37

From personal experience it's sounds like there's a lot more to this than what your daughter's telling you.
I remember when we received an email from esd/her mum which, as far as we were concerned, came completely out of the blue...it was predominantly aimed at me and described multible occasions when SD had felt I'd said or done something she didn't like. There was a simple explanation for every single issue that they raised and a lot of it was twisted and edited to make me sound bad. I really wish I could give some examples so you could see exactly what I mean but I don't want to risk 'outing' myself. Anyway, SD was interpreting everything in a negative way because she was insecure about her relationship with her dad due to us having a baby. Obviously it was easier to blame me for the way she was feeling rather than her dad. When all this was going on SDs mum had an outburst and said that they didn't want to see me anymore and that my husband would have to see them elsewhere.
Apparently I don't welcome them and make them feel part of the family...Funny, it was never mentioned how SD completely ignores me and treats me like an invisible woman in my own home. The majority of the time she would ignore my hellos and goodbyes, would reply as briefly as possible if I tried to make conversation, say 'dad' before everything sentence and made building a relationship with her absolutely impossible for me so I was pretty much just trying to keep out of her way.
It was clear by her mother's messages that she didn't have a clue what was going on. She had no idea about our family or about me as a person. In my opinion, she needed to encourage her daughter to speak directly to her father about her issues and insecurities and mum needed to keep out of it.

CountryGal13 · 08/07/2014 09:02

From personal experience it's sounds like there's a lot more to this than what your daughter's telling you.
I remember when we received an email from esd/her mum which, as far as we were concerned, came completely out of the blue...it was predominantly aimed at me and described multible occasions when SD had felt I'd said or done something she didn't like. There was a simple explanation for every single issue that they raised and a lot of it was twisted and edited to make me sound bad. I really wish I could give some examples so you could see exactly what I mean but I don't want to risk 'outing' myself. Anyway, SD was interpreting everything in a negative way because she was insecure about her relationship with her dad due to us having a baby. Obviously it was easier to blame me for the way she was feeling rather than her dad. When all this was going on SDs mum had an outburst and said that they didn't want to see me anymore and that my husband would have to see them elsewhere.
Apparently I don't welcome them and make them feel part of the family...Funny, it was never mentioned how SD completely ignores me and treats me like an invisible woman in my own home. The majority of the time she would ignore my hellos and goodbyes, would reply as briefly as possible if I tried to make conversation, say 'dad' before everything sentence and made building a relationship with her absolutely impossible for me so I was pretty much just trying to keep out of her way.
It was clear by her mother's messages that she didn't have a clue what was going on. She had no idea about our family or about me as a person. In my opinion, she needed to encourage her daughter to speak directly to her father about her issues and insecurities and mum needed to keep out of it.

JohnFarleysRuskin · 08/07/2014 09:15

Hmm, the thing SM said were awful - and I would like to clear that up.

However, the other examples you gave - the shopping trip and the phone, I'm with the step-mum.

DD didn't want to go shopping, she wanted to stay home, then when she did she was pissed off?

DD was told not to have a phone in the room, got punished for it, and then is pissed off?

She sounds like my 13 yr old!

SM has been ok for the last 6 years. I'd cut her some slack.

OwlCapone · 08/07/2014 09:19

DD was told not to have a phone in the room, got punished for it, and then is pissed off?

She was told off twice though - the father sorted it whilst the SM was out and then the SM (allegedly) laid into her about it again, dissatisfied with how it was dealt with.

JohnFarleysRuskin · 08/07/2014 09:51

I thought parenting meant going on and on about stuff Blush

MaryRose · 08/07/2014 10:14

I don't have an issue with her being told off for breaking the rules at all - she should stick to the rules in her dad's house just as she does here, she would've got a bollocking from me too, bloody phones! But I think it is unfair that her dad dealt with it then she was laid into again, if SM wasn't happy with how he dealt with it the first time the discussion about that should have been with her dad, well that's how I would have dealt with it anyway.

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theironinglady123 · 08/07/2014 11:09

Is it possible that your daughter's behaviour and attitude when with her dad and step mum is really awful even if it's not at home with you?

It's possible SM is mentioning the France Trip and the money it costs because DD is demanding money and she is trying to make her realise money isn't endless and they are already paying extra for her to go on the trip?

MaryRose · 08/07/2014 11:57

One thing I am sure of theironinglady123 is that DD is not 'demanding money'. She doesn't even get pocket money from her dad. It was me who asked if they would share the cost, it is the first time I've asked but I'm also paying for younger DD to go on her end of primary residential this year so I was stretched and thought it was fair to ask her dad to contribute. He readily agreed without there being a suggestion that this was a problem, so I feel it is spectacularly unfair for them keep telling her how much it is costing him, effectively trying to guilt trip her really.

Look, I'm not some mother who thinks my daughter is some kind of angel. She has an attitude like any 13 year old. And being a step mum is really hard, I know, I am one. But I feel the things said here are totally unacceptable and need to be addressed.

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SisterMcKenzie · 08/07/2014 12:46

I think you are being played by your 13yo and need to quit interfering in the other household.

To be frank I'd be fuming if DH and an ex undermining me in my own house.

Teenagers do lie and manipulate especially if two parents are willing to believe it.

MaryRose · 08/07/2014 13:26

Oh really SisterMcKenzie? So you think a step mum doing a character assassination on my daughter and saying she has had six years of her and is sick of her (heard by my younger DD and her dad admits it was said too) is my daughter 'playing me' do you? I think that's pretty disgusting to be honest and if I'd said that to my step daughter my DH would have called me on it big time.

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rosepetalsoup · 08/07/2014 13:50

MaryRose,
It's quite likely that the SM is very over-annoyed with your daughter and was unfair. It's unlikely that you can really do anything about it, unless of course she and your Ex break up, which does sound kind of likely, and also more probably if they don't have their own kids as less incentive for her to put the work in.
Whatever.
What's obvious is that it's fast turning into an explosive situation, and I have my own (v little, but still) DD so understand how protective you feel. If I were you I would peacefully suggest older DD has a break from visiting, in really friendly terms. Just say it's turning into a bit of a pressure cooker and you want to diffuse so that relationships aren't damaged all round. I'm sure your DD will be relieved and you can revisit the situation later on.

BruthasTortoise · 08/07/2014 14:16

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BruthasTortoise · 08/07/2014 14:17

When your DD breaks house rules at your house to you phone her Dad so you both can discuss the appropriate response? Does your DH get any say about rules and consequences in your house?

MaryRose · 08/07/2014 14:48

No BruthasTortoise. But neither do I tell her off then let my DH re-hash the whole thing and lay into her again when he comes home from work. That would be extremely unfair.

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