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mumtobealloveragain · 21/01/2014 23:54

I'm honestly not sure if me/DP are being unreasonable here or if, as I feel right now, DSC's mother is being difficult for no reason.

My DSS (7) is very shy and quiet. He finds it hard to make new friends and doesn't really "like" much out of school.

We wanted to find him something to do out of school so he had a hobby. I found a local Beavers group and added him to the waiting list a year ago. He was offered a place in September. DO spoke to his ex before accepting the place, 50:50 residency means every other week he'd be with his mum so he needed to agree. She did. She agreed it'd be great for him socially and his confidence and said she'd take him as long as we paid for his uniform and the termly fees would alternate who pays them. All seemed good.

We bought his uniform and he started in September. He absolutely loves it. He asks every day if today is Beavers day, so proud of his uniform, runs all the way there, goes on and on about it all week - you get the idea. It's one hour a week.

In November, he was with his mum one week and we had a call from the Beavers leader to say he hadn't been collected. They had called his mum and she wasn't answering mobile or house phone. All the kids had gone and the leader was the last one there, she said she had to leave (Beavers had I used 40mins ago). So I walked there and collected him, very confused as to why he hadn't been picked up. I got back and called his mum. She answered and said she was on her way now and had been delayed. I explained he was with me and she drove to our house and was very rude at the door in front of the children.

She then decided he could no longer go during "her" time as she says she doesn't agree that I should have collected him. He's absolutely devastated. He's still going when with us but he's missing a lot and he's finding it hard to do the work towards his badges (which he's obsessed with doing). Twice now though she has agreed to is collecting him from school on Beavers day when he's due to be with her and us take him and take him to school the next day.

He has asked if he can come here like that every week so he can do Beavers. She refuses. He's really annoyed and angry and hasn't stopped going on about it. DP has tried explaining to her he will reliably have him on those days and how much it will benefit him but she has just said it's "her" time and her choice.

Argh. He's cried in bed tonight and asked me to make his mum let him go. Sad He's one of those sweet kids who never asks for anything, never moans for sweets, never asks for things at the shop, never has a Xmas list etc. He's not particularly excited or bothered about anything but this.

I just think surely a little flexibility is needed, the DSC are getting older and they have needs and wants that aren't covered by the rigid Court Order of mum's night and dad's night. There's a provision in the order for "alternative agreed arrangements" so it's easily agreed.

What do other people do?

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Kaluki · 24/01/2014 18:30

But didn't you offer to swap nights or to drop him home after??
She's a loon!!
Poor DSS

mumtobealloveragain · 24/01/2014 19:59

He didn't get that far Kaluki- he hasn't replied to her text et , he's too annoyed and doesn't want to text we whilst he is annoyed with her as he always ensures his texts are polite and calm.

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MollyPutTheKettleOn · 24/01/2014 20:43

If I were your partner, I'd say "as son wants to go to Beavers so much then I would not reduce any maintenance for that night as I believe son's happiness is much more important than a few quid. "

If she refuses, then she really should be ashamed of herself.

Sounds like she has got herself into a right little tizz about this.

Unfortunately with the current CSA rules, even with 50/50 care, one parent will be classed as the "Parent With Care" and one as the "Non Resident Parent". The NRP will pay maintenance but have it reduced by 3/7ths for the "shared care".

The Non Resident Parent is the parent NOT in receipt of the child benefit for the child.

MollyPutTheKettleOn · 24/01/2014 20:50

Oh and when child maintenance is paid, the NRP cannot be forced to pay over and above the maintenance payment. So if your partner cannot afford to pay maintenance and other costs then he will have to stop paying the other costs to the ex. She'll have to take it out of the maintenance he pays instead. She may realise she'll be worse off with him paying a set maintenance amount a month that way and stop any CSA claim she has put it (if its actually happened).

FrogStarandRoses · 24/01/2014 20:54

molly I was going to say the same - I'm a PWC, DD is 50:50 and I get CM via the CSA but I am financially responsible for everything DD needs - School uniform, trips, clubs, casual clothes, shoes, equipment etc etc.

mumtobealloveragain · 24/01/2014 21:13

Molly, yeah we know there's still a PWC and NRP in 50/50. She is perfectly entitled to claim but morally she's being a bitch.

Frogs- That sounds fair in your situation but not only do we have exactly 50/50 14 nights out if 28 but DSC have double of everything so we pay for everything for our house and DSS's mum does the same for her place. Uniform, casual clothes, shoes etc they have it all at each home. All costs such as school trips and clubs are supposed to be shared but we often end up paying them when she refuses or puts it off so long that it gets bloody embarrassing. Hmm

I have no idea why she's decided to do this now. DP can't reply tonight he's too stressed.

It's not as if we can pay CSA and not pay for extras, she will refuse to pay for things for him whilst he's here so we still but everything and she won't pay for his activities etc so he'd lose out.

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MollyPutTheKettleOn · 24/01/2014 21:17

He could challenge the child benefit application then. Where is DSS registered for the doctors etc? At his Mum's?

mumtobealloveragain · 24/01/2014 21:23

Molly the ridiculousness of it is we have the Child Benefit for my younger DSS! Surely she's thought if she claims CSA from us he will claim from her in return. Plus we have 5 other resident children (including DSS2) so he will get a huge reduction. Stupid woman Shock

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purpleroses · 24/01/2014 21:26

From what you say of DSS's mum I would guess that she's insecure in her role. She's forgetful, maybe a bit untogether, and possibly embarrassed that she's managed to get herself a reputation with the Beavers as being a bit of a rubbish mother.

She hasn't had the wherewithal to get her shy child into any clubs - and now you and your DP have been the ones to do that. She has her DS 50-50 but maybe feels she might lose that. You clearly have a great relationship with DSS - Maybe DSS says to her that he'd rather live with you (as then he'd be allowed to go to Beavers) and much as she ought to be pleased he's got a stepmum who he likes, instead she feels threated by this. I would guess she's applying for CSA in order to try to assert that she's the main carer of DSS and feel more in control of his life.

I'm not defending any of her behaviour - as it's clearly really sad for DSS when his mum behaves like this. Just trying to understand why she might behave that way.

So your DP might be best to just let DSS go to Beavers alternate weeks, explain the situation to the Beavers leader, and hope that DSs's mum comes round in time.

MollyPutTheKettleOn · 24/01/2014 21:29

He'll only get the maximum reduction for 3 or more which is 25% of his net income. Plus she may be able to claim from your children's tax credits too! The CSA may include them in the assessment depending on who earns the most out of you and your partner.

How many step children are there? Is it two in total? Maybe your husband could politely and calmly reply with that. If she makes a claim to the CSA for SDS1 then he will have to make a claim for SDS2 from her. The CSA may say the cases would cancel eachother out if the amounts payable would be similar.

Maybe she's full of hot air and hasnt contacted the CSA. Maybe she hasn't told them she doesnt get the child benefit for the youngest.

Good idea to wait until he's calmed down to reply. What a shame his ex is being awkward (as it would seem).

mumtobealloveragain · 24/01/2014 21:49

Purple. I think you may be somewhat right. She has recently got a lot worse in her behaviour towards us and aims a lot of her anger at me especially since our dd was born a couple of months ago, but that could just be coincidence.

Molly- She can claim from my children's tax credits? Really?!? My children who are not DP's children? That's bloody awful! I'm going to go on the CSA calculator now and see how much we'd have to pay her based on DP's wages. Such a cow for doing this, she knows we aren't that well off and we have just had a baby :(

She earns less than DP and what with her being able to claim from my children's tax credits she'll get more from us than we would her even if we put in the claim for CSA for DSC2. Yes, there's 2 DSC, I have 3 children of my own and we have just had a baby together, so 6 DC in total. (we sound lovely I know). Lets just hope she'd lying.

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