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I have the boiling rage......can I protect my children?

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Fragglewump · 16/10/2013 08:07

From my not so d exh I.e. their dad. I am sick of trying to pick up the pieces of his parenting fails and feel like the children are being emotionally damaged. Here's the story.....I had 2 kids with exh. We divorced. We both remarried. He now has dw and new baby ds. He has always holidayed with girlfriends and dw without the dcs and they have then watched videos of dad swimming with dolphins, cuddling tigers etc and occasionally said it would be nice to go too. Half term is approaching and exh has just been made redundant and is having a year off to 'bond with new baby''. His wife is on maternity. Last time we discussed arrangements he said he may well have the dcs for half term as he's not at work. So I texted him this week to make plans. He replied that he can't have them as him dw and new baby are flying off on holiday that week!?!?! Wtf?? Why in half term? Last night the dcs were talking about it and how it was sad they weren't going. I tried to be breezy about it and said 'oh well I'm sure you'll be going next time' to which dc2 said 'we better had be!' I just feel so sad on their behalf. If he had chosen any other week in the sodding term he could have said 'we could only afford to go during term time and you can't get out of school' but now it's fucking obvious he just doesn't want them to go. How can I handle it? I don't want to apologise for his behaviour and I need to let the children know that it's okay to feel sad. I've typed a million messages to exh but deleted them all because I want to make my point well and not be full of protective rage for my dcs. Any wise words appreciated. Sad

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CurseOfCurves89 · 16/10/2013 08:19

My sons dad is like this too. I've got to the stage where I just ignore it, make sure my son knows how much me and my family etc love him and take the higher ground, knowing that I'm not perfect but I'm a damn sight better than his loser dad.

He seems like a total arsehole and I'm sorry your kids (and you!) have to deal with that shit.

Fragglewump · 16/10/2013 08:26

Thanks curse! What a pair of twunts they both are. I just want someone wise to tell me what to do and how to make it less painful for my dcs.

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CurseOfCurves89 · 16/10/2013 08:33

I'd love to know too.
How they can treat their own children like that is beyond me.

Fragglewump · 16/10/2013 08:39

My first post sounds quite calm but I've just had enough of dealing with him. I'm really cross because I love me kids so much and he just fucks their heads up. I feel like I hate him..... And I've long since got over hating him for what he did to me......

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Fragglewump · 16/10/2013 08:39

My kids not 'me kids' obviously!

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CurseOfCurves89 · 16/10/2013 09:02

I'd say that you should calmly make him aware that you're absolutely not going to make excuses or apologise for him and that if he doesn't sort his priorities out now it's only gonna be him that's hurt when the grow up and resent him.

Fragglewump · 18/10/2013 10:54

I hate this situation. Exh has been sending me abusive texts because I told him that it has upset the kids. What a knob.

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Kaluki · 18/10/2013 12:08

I am in a similar situation.
Ex has a gf, been together 6 months. He is in LOVE (you'd think he invented it!)

Both my dc like her and she is nice enough but since they met ex and her have been on two holidays abroad (he has never taken them abroad), they never see him alone, she is always there. He has ducked out of about three or four Saturday nights in the last few months with them to spend with her.
Now he has told them that he is going to spend Christmas at the other end of the country with her and her family and will see them on Boxing Day "for a few hours"!
They are devastated but feel unable to say anything to him and have begged me not to because he will be cross! Until now they have had a good relationship with him and he has been a great dad but his brains have left his head and gone to his pants!
My heart breaks for them.

Fragglewump · 18/10/2013 12:50

Hmmm we have spent the last 8 years alternating Christmas and new year......... so one year I have dcs for Xmas and he has them for new year then next year the other way round. Last year he didn't see them at all for three weeks over Xmas and new year as he and new dw spent the whole time in Australia!!!! That made me really sad as for me Christmas is all about the kids...

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lunar1 · 18/10/2013 15:02

I don't think there is a way to make this easier. At some point there is no way to hide the fact that he is a selfish twat.

Just make sure that they know it's his failing and not theirs.

The new baby is no more important than his first children, I'm sure he would treat the baby the same when/if he leaves this wife too.

trooperlooperdo · 18/10/2013 17:14

Who's paying for these holidays? If it's the ex's new woman, why should she pay to take children that aren't hers with her? Perhaps they won it in a competition, perhaps her parents are paying. Perhaps she's not coping with the baby and needs the father to help her - which he isn't going to be able to do if he's got 2 other kids to look after. OH's ex tried this with their kids, turns out it's been me paying for everything because he can't afford to, I did pay for a trip away for us all -including his kids once but they decided not to turn up citing too much homework...turns out their too much homework was going shopping with their mother the first day and then out playing with their friends the second day. I refuse to pay for anything for them now, so they don't go away with us.

Why has it upset the kids? What were they told? if it's "Daddy's going away with his new wife and their new baby and they don't want you to go" then whoever told them that needs a smack, it's the type of comment Oh's ex would come out with. Children wont get upset if they're told "Daddy can't see you next week, something's come up, I don't know what, I'll leave Daddy to explain" they'll be dissapointed, but certainly not enough to warrant a potentially ranty "your children are upset text" to your ex

Ducking out of contact time for 3 out of 4 visits to spend time with new woman isn't on however & arse kicks need dispensing pdq

Fragglewump if "Christmas is all about the kids", why weren't you happy to have them for the entire Christmas?

Aroundtheworldandback · 18/10/2013 17:31

Op I don't know how old your kids are, but I have been in your situation for 10 years, only difference is mine has 3 step children, whose needs he places in front of his own two. Chooses not to play any part in their lives apart from taking them for dinner twice a month, yet is a great and hands on stepdad.

I think how you deal with it has to reflect the personality of the child, ie with a not-so-sensetive child you can be more breezy and make light of it. But I have come to understand that nothing I say or do can protect them against the hurt & rejection.

When they reach their teens they start to look at their parents more critically and form their own opinions. What I have done is to try and strengthen other areas of their lives to compensate, eg a strong social life, great stepdad, loving grandparents- and of course me.

Where I come unstuck though, is that I know I ask too much of their stepdad to 'compensate' for what they miss in their dad, and that really is too much of an ask.

Hopefully, although we would never wish this situation on our children, they will grow up to be more sensitive and make better, more loving parents themselves.

Kaluki · 18/10/2013 17:44

I am thrilled to have them for the whole if Christmas Day for the first time in years but hurt for them too.
In my case ex is very upfront about it - 'I won't see you next week because X and I are going to a party/going on holiday' then he swans out leaving me looking at the upset looks on their faces!
DS1 is 14 and is seeing his dad in a new light. He asked me the other day if he was selfish when we were married. I had to say that yes, he was a bit. I can't lie.

Fragglewump · 18/10/2013 17:51

Blimey trooperlooperdo you have the situation completely wrong! It's not the new wife paying for things he was previously earning a six figure salary ( almost a 7 figure one! ) and has just received a very large redundancy payout. You must think I'm a fuckwit if you think I would say "daddy's going away and doesn't want you to go". I don't know what the exact words were as he told them. All I know is that dc2 feels hurt, rejected and jealous of new half sister and I'm trying to minimise the impact of that. Do give me a bit more credit than your ohs ex! I was happy to have them for 3 weeks over Christmas but sad for the kids!
Aroundtheworld - thanks for your post! I do have the handle things very differently with each child due to different temperaments as dc1 breezes through but dc2 struggles more and feels rejection and also gets cross about differences of opinion between me and exh which I would prefer to keep them unaware of but he deliberately drags the children into it! When he does that I do point out that he is messing up their heads. Which he gets very angry about.

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Fragglewump · 18/10/2013 17:52

Kaluki - does your ex have a secret brother I wonder!?!? Hmmm

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KringleCandleLover · 18/10/2013 18:03

He did say he may well have them. Not definately. I have 2 dsd's and have never taken them on holidays. We did try once when we were getting married but dh ex changed her mind at the last min and insisted we pay for her to go as well so as she could look after her kids. She got told to piss off and the dsd's didn't go. Dh does take them away. On his own. If your ex earnings are so high, I imagine his csa payments are mahoosive too. Perhaps you could take them away when time off work allows so as they feel they have had a treat? Its hard when a half sibling comes along. Dh and I have a 7yr old dd. The dsd's were thrown by this though their dm had a massive part to play,commenting on our holidays, house, things we bought joint dd.
My advice is keep your anger to yourself, hard I know, and don't add fuel to the fire by talking about your ex new family in a bad light. Your kids will work it all out as they get older.
I feel for you but I am both a mother and sm with a new family so can see both sides xx

Stepmooster · 18/10/2013 19:13

Seeing as I got my head ripped of by MN for being pissed off that my DSS was dumped on us at last minute during 6 weeks holidays on dates not agreed, whilst being 8 months pregnant, so that his mum could fly first class to some tropical holiday I was under the impression it was entirely normal to holiday without your children.

Meanwhile DSS moans he wants to go on holiday on a plane. DH can't afford such holidays, he has to make do with rubbish UK breaks with us and 2 infants.

Why have you told them he'll probably take them next time? You're getting their hopes up, when he hasn't promised anything of the sort do you like to feel smug when he 'fails'.

DH and I are taking our 2 infants away for a week early next year without DSS mainly because we can stick them in the on site creche for some of the time and then we can have some couple time / honeymoon. We've decided what's good enough for the ex is good enough for us.

ChinaCupsandSaucers · 18/10/2013 19:32

fraggle You might find this thread more comfortable on the Lone Parents board? Perhaps MNHQ would move it?
It seems a bit odd slagging off your DCs Dad and SM here on a board designed to support Stepmums?

Fragglewump · 18/10/2013 20:55

Erm I'm not slagging them off I'm asking for help in how to support them. Just to be clear I am a biological mum and a step mum to 2 kids too so seem to be stuck in the middle whichever I turn. I'm not looking for a comfortable life - I was looking for a way to limit damge to my children. Thanks for all the helpful suggestions! I'm not a lone parent but thanks to all those that tried to help.

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DontCallMeDaughter · 18/10/2013 20:58

I have no experience of this but I just wanted to say - thank god your kids have you. Your ex sounds like a cock and he doesn't deserve them.

Am hormonal, I apologise, but I'd kick him in the nuts if I were you.

29chapel · 18/10/2013 21:05

Goodness me - some rather vitriolic responses there for you Fragglewump?

I am not in your situation but i can empathise - you must be worried that your children feel shut out by their dad. Sadly this is his doing and obviously you are not responsible for it. I think you can only keep doing as you are by trying to help them feel less hurt. Sorry you are having a rubbish time. xxx (sending wine and hugs)

Kaluki · 18/10/2013 21:09

Fraggle they do sound similar - maybe they are long lost twins!!!

Fragglewump · 18/10/2013 21:34

To be honest I'm just looking for positive suggestions. I know that I'm doing my absolute best for all 4 of my dcs so im trying to let the nasty comments wash over me. I'm not into point scoring or winning I just want all the dcs to have the best life they can. It's quite tricky untangling it all though. Part of me feels I should apologise to the dcs for their fathers behaviour but I have to remind myself it's not my responsibility. I think I need to try and detach more so that I don't get so upset on their behalf!

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Frikadellen · 18/10/2013 21:56

Fraggle

There is nothing you can do. & No manner of placing it nicely changes the fact your father goes off on holiday without you.

I am 43 I still don't truly understand why he did it. Add to that he took my younger brother who lived with him and his step daugther (who didn't) but I was not allowed to go. It leaves a special kind ofhurt inside you that never truly goes.

All I can say is dont do like my mother and slag him off. Doesn't make it better.

Frikadellen · 18/10/2013 21:58

China the forum is step parenting. That leaves scope for all sorts of situations imo.