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Teenage stepsons in our bedroom

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allnewtaketwo · 07/10/2012 20:17

Yesterday, DSS (16) was in our bedroom, solely because he needed to print something out (i wasn't aware of this at the time). At one point I heard banging and thumping around upstairs and asked DH to go up and see what was going on. Turns out both DSSs were play? fighting in our bedroom, on our bed. I was very annoyed, and said to DH that I don't want them in our bedroom anymore. Not only is that the one room in our house that I can have any privacy, but I think I can reasonably expect to not having a young adult model and his teenage brother fighting on my bed.

Roll forward to today. I was walking upstairs and saw DSS1 walking into my bedroom. 5 mins before, I had been busy on the computer in the bedroom (online banking) and also had out some underwear on radiator to dry. Had only left room to go to loo. I spoke to DH and turns out he'd told DSS he could use put computer.

I was very annoyed and DH couldn't understand why. We have a laptop FGS. Am do cross. I don't think I'm unreasonable in not wanting to have a 16 year old male in my bedroom, let alone seeing my private banking details. Am just having a rant here!

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allnewtaketwo · 09/10/2012 14:04

Interesting you're the only one who's seem to have picked up on this Petal. The problem is purely focused on where my printer is/what I keep in my bedroom etc., rather than why teenage boys have nothing better to do with their time that play in my bed.

The fact that they are indoors 24/7 (other that when DH arranges stuff for them to do) means it gets pretty oppressive because they have no hobbies/don't see friends etc at weekends. Not a distance issue before someone suggests this. We live very near their home/school and public transport, they just have no interest in doing anything outside of the home.

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OhChristFENTON · 09/10/2012 14:27

allnew have you been leaving <a class="break-all" href="http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?q=sex+swing&start=250&hl=en&client=safari&sa=X&rls=en&biw=1915&bih=893&tbm=isch&prmd=imvns&tbnid=FSRWd3613Rbh8M:&imgrefurl=www.kaboodle.com/reviews/the-4-point-sex-swing-stand&docid=Aez4mBNKwMkr9M&imgurl=cn1.kaboodle.com/img/c/0/0/18a/f/AAAADCmom_4AAAAAAYr-Eg/the-4-point-sex-swing-stand.jpg%253Fv%253D1317190994000&w=210&h=300&ei=XyV0UPngLIqy0QX724HABQ&zoom=1&iact=rc&dur=546&sig=114597476516816652025&page=5&tbnh=138&tbnw=97&ndsp=66&ved=1t:429,r:52,s:250,i:64&tx=62&ty=37" rel="nofollow noindex" target="_blank">this out again, I've told you about that before. Hmm

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Petal02 · 09/10/2012 14:36

The fact that they are indoors 24/7 means it gets pretty oppressive because they have no hobbies and don?t see friends etc at weekends

I know EXACTLY how claustrophobic and unnatural this feels.

Christfenton - you will NOT be going to heaven .........

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allnewtaketwo · 09/10/2012 14:38

Grin Ohchristfenton

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OhChristFENTON · 09/10/2012 14:39

::deletes google history::

Grin

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Hullygully · 09/10/2012 14:47

why don't they have any friends or hobbies?

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sudaname · 09/10/2012 14:58

Grin at Petal and ChrisFenton

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allnewtaketwo · 09/10/2012 16:05

Hully they live in a very strictly controlled environment. They're 'not allowed' to do much, including seeing their father outside of the strict access rota. They aren't allowed to do anything independently of their mother. Any 'hobbies' they've ever had are things chosen by her. They're not allowed to do the sorts of things their peers do. Despite the DSS2 is quite good at entertaining himself, albeit indoors. DSS1 is if a different character, and the strict control regime has left him seemingly unwilling/incapable of independent thought Or action

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Hullygully · 09/10/2012 16:24

christos kai panayia

those poor boys!

No wonder they wrestle, not much else for them is there?!

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allnewtaketwo · 09/10/2012 16:33

Well they've got much more freedom here. DH tries his best to encourage them to branch out and grow independence but DSS1 in particular is so used to waiting for instructions that he actually likes this rather than think for himself. DSS2 is frustrated by the control at home and does much more here. Frequently DS and DSS2 will be doing their own thing whereas DSS1 will be asking 'what are we doing next dad?'

Yes of course very sad for them and a terrible shame. But equally very frustrating and quite oppressive when he's literally hanging around 24/7

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Hullygully · 09/10/2012 16:39

But how awful for him, think how terrible he must feel and how low his esteem must be...he sounds positively institutionalised!

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allnewtaketwo · 09/10/2012 16:43

He is institutionalised. No one recognises this better than me, believe me. It's also very upsetting for DH to see his son not developing. Yet his mother thinks he's doing great because he gets good exam results. It's all a very long story.

Yet I remain a human being with the right to rant on here. Living with the effects of Emotional abuse by his mother is not easy, and I find it essential to be able to let off steam somewhere.

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Petal02 · 09/10/2012 16:43

We used to have exactly the same thing with DSS18, it?s only just begun to improve over the last few months. He lived his life, completely controlled by the strict visiting arrangements and used to arrive at our house at 4pm Thursday expecting to be entertained til 6pm Sunday. And unless DH devised an activities programme, he would do absolutely nothing all weekend. We once had him for half term week, DH and I were both out at work (so god knows why he stayed with us) and I don?t think he left the house at all. He certainly didn?t mix with any other teenagers. So I completely empathise with the OP. It can be very oppressive indeed.

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Petal02 · 09/10/2012 16:53

Everyone used to think that DSS was just fine, simply because his school results were good (Allnew, our situations are sooooo similar) - but only I could see that DSS was becoming institutionalised, his life revolved around the access rota and following his Dad around like a shadow. Not healthy at all. Personal development is just as important as exam results.

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wordfactory · 09/10/2012 17:23

Well allnew you have an unhappy, institutionalised, under developed boy on your hands.

And your DH is unhappy. And so are you.

Something needs to change no?

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allnewtaketwo · 09/10/2012 17:53

You are making very wide-ranging assumptions. My DH is unhappy with the way in which his childrens' mother controls them, and the effects on the children yes. You think me letting them wrestle in my bed will solve this?

I said I was cross on Sunday and needed a rant. An unhappy person this does not make me in general Hmm.

Actuall I wouldn't describe DSS1 as "unhappy". My observation is that he is currently unaware that his mother's behaviour is inappropriate, or indeed that the way he is as a result is unusual. If he was more aware of all of this (and he's likely to become so as he grows older) this may well make him unhappy. But currently - no, I wouldn't describe him as unhappy.

"Something needs to change" - well thinking of cause and effect, the most critical change needed would either be to remove them from their mother or stop her parenting in this way. It is not within our control to action either of these.

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madelineashton · 09/10/2012 18:26

I'm sorry I haven't trawled through the whole thread but wanted to add my support. My DSD is the same, although younger so slightly less disturbing.

My DD comes in to our bed every morning. She is six. She knows all by herself that she needs to come in to my side rather than her stepdad's and only goes in the middle if I suggest it (ie. becuase I know that DH A, has boxers on and B, has been awake long enough that he doesn't have a hard on!) I reckon that situation would be similar if she were both of our biological child. Maybe not, but I don't think it bothers her. Well, it's what's she's always chosen to do. At her dad's house she gets in to her stepmum's side first.

But anyway, I digress. When we were teenagers we weren't allowed in Mum and Dad's room unless we asked first. We had free rein on the rest of the house, and expected our parents not to hang out in our rooms so fair was fair. So I always struggled with how DSD would just waltz in to our room. I'd often come in from my shower to find her on the bed with the wall mirror taken off the wall so she could do her make up or hair (with my hairdrier) She would also come in to the bathroom and use the toilet whilst either of us were showering etc.

Her mother has no boundries at all. They still bathed together last I heard which was when DSD was turning 13. Now, I don't care if I am flamed - that is just plain WRONG! As a result DSD had no concept of privacy or personal space and I hated it. Not her fault, as with your DSSs, but annoying never the less.

Still as I always say with things like that, I don't see her at all now and I often wish that I could have her in my room using my hairbrush and begging me to do her eyeshadow for her Sad

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madelineashton · 09/10/2012 18:27

Is he really a model..?

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NotaDisneyMum · 09/10/2012 18:36

Well allnew you have an unhappy, institutionalised, under developed boy on your hands.
And your DH is unhappy. And so are you.
Something needs to change no?

I also have an unhappy, emotionally conflicted under-developed DSS, and both DH and I are unhappy about it.

We have sought help and support from many avenues - but cannot resolve what should change in our home to improve matters. What is your solution, wordfactory?

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madelineashton · 09/10/2012 18:43

I'm sure it wasn't intended to sound this way, but I can't help feeling that as step parents we aren't allowed to take any responsibility or praise for when the kids are good or if they turn out well, but when they are "unhappy, institutionalisd and underdeveloped" Suddenly the solution is all in our hands Hmm

Personally Allnew, I would begin the new rule that they aren't allowed in your bedroom (and also that you aren't allowed in to theirs.. you know, for fairness... with the added bonus that you can't collect dirty clothes or change beds etc Grin) then let their dad and their mother deal with their other issues. Those issues are nothing to do with whether they're allowed in your bedroom or not.

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allnewtaketwo · 09/10/2012 18:48

madelineashton - sounds difficult. Sorry you don't see her at all now - why's that?

no he's not a model (did you post on the wrong thread?)

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allnewtaketwo · 09/10/2012 18:50

x-posted.

I think you're conclusion in the first paragraph above is exactly right btw

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madelineashton · 09/10/2012 18:52

You said "A young adult model" in your OP - I was going down a very wrong road thinking that I wouldn't mind a young adult model play fighting on my bed Blush Wink Grin

It's a long story but to cut it short, her mother is a narrcististic, possesive, insecure, infantilising, dependant, lying, she-devil and after a four year long campaign to belittle DSD and her father's relationship whilst painting herself as some kind of mother theresa, DSD finally decided she didn't want to see DH anymore, or anyone in his family or friendship group. Very sad.

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allnewtaketwo · 09/10/2012 19:09

Lol - damn iphone!

Oh dear on your DSD, how awful Sad

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SheppySheepdog · 09/10/2012 19:20

I doubt they were much interested in your underwear if it's any consolation. Grin

I don't have stepchildren but would like to think that if I did, any boundaries for them would be the same as any for my biological children. I wouldn't ban my dc from my bedroom. I might encourage them to play fight elsewhere but an outright ban would feel like a rejection to someone who is already insecure and unsure of his place in the family. This blended family stuff sounds like bloody hard work.

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