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Suda, how are things?

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Petal02 · 13/12/2010 14:34

Just wondered if you could update us?

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Bahhhumbug · 15/12/2010 10:13

Hiya Petal - sorry only just noticed this one. We went to Germany and had a lovely few days and went to the Christmas market which was lovely - then we came home ! Sad

Been quite ill tbh with a nasty sickness diarrhoah bug - not surprising as Golden Child has been ill while we were away and his hand washing and general hygiene standards are non existent. He is always sick while were away - probably a combination of not eating properly - Daddys not there to cook for him and general living in squalor - has always obviously just washed up all the pots from the duration of our holiday when we come home. His own gran -my m-i-l is even convinced he's taking pills or something on a night out cos he keeps getting these 'bugs' ! So am pretty fed up at moment and wallowing in self pity am afraid. I dont imagine this bug is helping and probably making me feel depressed as they do sometimes.

Nothing at all has been mentioned re the big row in restaurant about the departure time of GChild could be 7 or 8 yrs etc. Darent bring it up tbh. Only one thing - a mate of DHs said in pub the other night - 'what like Suda did the other week' - ??? - to which another of our mates piped up - 'oh no - theyve kissed and made up now.' To which I piped up - looking straight at DH defiantly - 'I think you'll find we agreed to differ - not kissed and made up!' But still DH didnt bring it up afterwards.

I darent even say to DH that I think GChild has caused our illness again - he once used our toilet for a whole day 'because there was no toilet paper in his' Confused - when he had a D&V bug - and apparently he was even too ill to flush the loo or wash his hands - needless to say we both caught it - despite me making DH clean it and actually managed to secure a ban on our bathroom for GChild which was a silver lining to that event. You know when you know you are right about something and its really annoying you because if you say anything about it you will just be accused of having a vendetta - DH would actually laugh at me and get angry at me if I even suggested any of this.

Have noticed also something about DH - and it is really worrying me - re above ban from our bathroom - the family bathroom and the whole of upstairs that is. DH used to (and above situation leading to ban happened years ago) never mention he was going having a bath because it was sort of rubbing GChilds nose in it - IYSWIM - so he would whisper to me or only mention it when GChild wasnt there etc. Because as you all know GChild has such a FOMO complex and so has DH on his behalf IYSWIM. Now DH has started to say things openly to or in presence of GChild such as - 'I'm going for a nice soak in the bath'.

If you knew my DH you would know why that worries me so much. He would never ever say anything of the sort to GChild if it was about something that GChild might enjoy but is not allowed to do IYSWIM. I fear the old selective memory is kicking in again that we have spoke about on here before. Its almost like in DHs mind that is all forgotten and the only reason GChild doesnt have a bath is because he doesnt want one. I am dreading - and its almost like its being encouraged - GChild piping up - 'Oh that sounds great Dad - I wish i could have a bath'. I just know WWIII will break out. Also DH said in company last week - 'Oh GChild never goes upstairs in our house ! - cant remember when he last came upstairs - can you Suda ?'

I felt like screaming 'Cos the dirty little bastard is barred thats why'. Do you think DH is deliberately trying to push the boundaries back again ?? He just made it sound as if it would be perfectly ok for GChild to start trotting upstairs again and the only reason he doesnt is that for some mysterious reason he doesnt choose to.

Sorry am a real miserable cow today - bet you wished you'd never asked.Blush

Bahhhumbug · 15/12/2010 10:26

You know what I think I really ought to do - not deliberately bring it up but wait till if and when that issue raises its ugly head again and then say to DH - 'You know how you wont shift on having even a rough estimated departure time on GChild - well I feel just as strongly on the bathroom and having at least part of our marital home private to us'. And just refuse to shift on it. Surely if its ok for DH to be so completely entrenched and unwavering in his stance on that then I should be entitled to have my own 'bombproof' stance on this. He cant keep expecting me to roll over and die on more and more. Do you know I fully expect to wake up one morning and have that fucker propped up in middle of us. Might aswell way its going.

Bahhhumbug · 15/12/2010 11:21

oh and pps ! in case I sound like a terrible woman my stepson has his own ensuite room downstairs - his ensuite is a wetroom - hence the bath issue.

Bahhhumbug · 15/12/2010 12:22

Btw - sorry am just happily rambling now - to myself up to now Confused and when I start answering my own posts then you lot can really start to worry Xmas Grin.

This is for all my BOM friends - I came up with a brilliant analagy the other day - I always do after the event !! - to counteract DHs main argument re GChilds presence.

'You hardly know he's there - he's always in his room or out. Whats the problem? He doesnt affect us that much blah blah blah'

Next time I am going to say - wait for it -

'So DH if we booked into a beautiful hotel for a dirty weekend and the room was lovely and we had our own bathroom etc etc and as the porter was dropping off our luggage and keys he said - 'Oh just one thing there is a young man through this door in your room - but dont worry the likelihood is he will stay in there all night and may only come through once to get a drink or something or if he's going out or coming back in' Would you not find that intrusive and unacceptable and that your privacy is severely compromised whether or not he ever came out of that room ?'

Now I know what DH will say - ' Well its not just any young man its my son ' - to which I will say 'Well to me its just as bad as if it was any other 6ft plus 22yr old male potentially walking in at any mo. I only met GChild when he was 17 and already 6ft - there is no way I could ever have that level of physical comfort around him' To which my DH will say - 'You really just dont like him do you !' - to which I will say - 'Well actually no-one could deny how much I love my own 6ft 2" 31yrs old son - but I still wouldnt be best pleased at him being permanently just a door handle away or a second away from possibly coming back in even when he is out.'

Bahhhumbug · 15/12/2010 12:26

Dear Bahhhumbug - what you like? If I were you I should breach security on those two bottles of Baileys you have locked away for Xmas in the garage.

...now theres an idea - Xmas in the garage Xmas Hmm

Xmas Grin
jonesybells · 15/12/2010 13:28

just like Petal - ask how you are then leave you to ramble on all alone Xmas Hmm

Xmas Grin Xmas Grin

Oh dear Suda - I definitely have a GC in the making...

since you mentioned the FOMO thing I just notice it all the time, - he happened to overhear us talking about visiting friends and on the way up calling in at the crematorium where DHs parents are Sad. and he piped up - 'ooh can I come' i mean WTF!!!!!??? DH said no it's not a weekend you're with us 'oh can't you just come and get me too''

No FFS no, effing NO NO NOOooooo...!!!

And the bathroom thing, .. one holiday we had adjoining rooms with him (each identical with ensuites) and we got there, dumped our bags - went down to dinner - he went back up 'for something' and later we had discovered that he'd come and taken a dump in OUR bathroom, - absolutely no reason or excuse - i mean that is f*cked up isn't it ???

i was livid and wanted to tell EVERYONE about it (we went with loads of family and friends) so they could see what I had to put up with - obviously I didn't but then everyone was asking DH why I had a 'face like a slapped arse' on that first night. He just couldn't Bear to tell them either.

And now I'm rambling on...

Your post of 10.26 - YES you should definitely do this, you deserve your privacy - is nothing sacred?

And I love the analogy, - might have to use that myself.

Bahhhumbug · 15/12/2010 13:53

Its right though innit Jonesy ? Its not true privacy even if someone might walk through just once a year !! Its just that they are there.

Glad you agree with me on the bathroom thing - if it does rear its ugly head I am gonna just do that trade off thing that MJ suggested. Like - No - you are completely unshiftable on the issue of deadlines and therefore I am even more so unshiftable on at least having our own married quarters as it were and not having to share bathroom facilities with someone of his hygiene standards. What really gets me is he plumped straight for that room when we moved in - he was given the choice !!

I actually presumed he would be having the other bedroom upstairs and my plan was to use that downstairs room with en-suite as my extra dressing, showering and general getting ready room for when one or other of the 'boys' were in occupation of the family bathroom. Would have been lovely to have my own girlie dressing room type of affair. Because of the rooms location ie off the kitchen its not really meant as a permanent bedroom IYSWIM. In fact when we first moved in we had s-i-l b-i-l and some friends back one night for drinks and GChild actually came out of his room all affronted the next day and said - 'I hope youre not having people round again late tonight making a racket - I couldnt sleep !! He plumped for the room downstairs because of the location (near the fridge for late night snacks etc) and for having a really modern en-suite wetroom - so wtf??

Every single time his fucking sense of entitlement takes my breath away.

theredhen · 15/12/2010 13:55

Suda,

We're having an extension built and we will have an en suite, I don't want any of the children in that room, not even my son. It's not unreasonable.

Bahhhumbug · 15/12/2010 14:11

Hiya RED - and guess what - this'll slay you my DH is a buider - proper time served carpenter the lot - old school. What he cant do himself isnt worth knowing and even so he has endless contacts and favours to call in after - as he puts it - 300yrs in the business.

It would be so simple for him to build us an extension over the garage to make master bedroom an en-suite - so I wouldnt give a toss then what went on in family bathroom as long as DH made sure it was presentable for guests. Or two extend GChildsroom into the workshop - hardly used - to make enough room for a bath - so he would have no FOMO issues then.

But oh no - he'd rather try and batter me into submission about it all by constant arguing.

Petal02 · 15/12/2010 14:20

Hi Suda - thanks for the update. Although I'm sorry that nothing seems to be resolved. I just want to know that I understand your frustration, and think you're quite entitled to start on the Baileys.

Regarding bathrooms, my SS has some unsavoury habits. Thankfully, my husband and I have a bathroom each, and on access weekends, SS shares with DH, as there's NO WAY I'd allow him to use mine.

I also wish we had separate remote controls, as he literally hugs it, rubbing his unwashed face with it, and hanging onto it with hands that never get washed after toilet visits. It really makes me cringe. When he puts it down, it's still warm and moist (yuk!!!!!) and I dread to think what bodily horrors are sticking to it.

If your husband still insists on offering his son Hotel Facilities for the next 8 years, then I think you're quite entitled to want private bathroom facilities, particularly as he has his own en-suite wet room. It wouldn't be so bad if he had decent habits, but given he sounds completely manky, he should stay out of your bathroom. I mean, if you go to a health club, men and women aren't expected to share the same shower facilities (god forbid), so you shouldn't have to share your home facilities with a member of the opposite sex, that you're not related to. It's not appropriate. As you say, your DH won't budge on his stance, so I think you should stick to your guns on the bathroom issue.

I know precisely what you mean, about DH not mentioning things in front of SS, that SS isn't included in. So I understand your concern that your DH's views on bathrooms may be slipping. But again, as he won't compromise on SS's residency, you shouldn't compromise on bathrooms.

My DH doesn't like talk about non-SS activities in front of SS, however I often do it for devilment. I'll mention a holiday, or day out etc etc, that I know SS won't be going on ...... how petty am I ??!?

As regards your husband not having a problem with his son's presence in the house, I think your hotel room analagy is a good one. My husband is completely relaxed when his son is with us. However for me, having an apathetic, lethargic, unwashed adolescent male festering on the premises, is deeply intrusive and makes me quite uncomfortable. DH often claims "but he isn't doing any harm" to which i reply "my mother could lay on the settee for days on end, she wouldn't do any harm either, but you wouldn't like that, would you" and he just doesn't get it. I've often asked him how he'd feel if some random bloke from down the road plonked himself in our house on alternate weekends. How would DH feel then? But again, he just doesn't get it. However he's quick to complain if my mother overstays her welcome, so I think he understands the "two's company, three's a crowd" situation more than he lets on.

I dind't mean this to turn into war and peace, but wanted you to know that I understand your frustrations, and think its totally reasonable for you to insist on a bathroom that SS can't use.

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Bahhhumbug · 15/12/2010 14:23

I mean (Suda continues to rant regardless) unless you have had someone sleeping off your kitchen you just have no idea how restricting it is. When we first moved in DH was always shushing me in the morning and I was once banging some beans out of a tin into a saucepan - as you do ! and he said to me sarcastically - 'Are you trying to wake up GChildsname'. he doesnt say stuff so often now cos my stock answer is always - 'Well he chose the room downstairs - why should I creep around in my own house'.

But when we've been out DH does this mega annoying reverant creeping around the kitchen - even opening the pedal bin lid by hand and carefully putting it down. Now I just come in and go straight upstairs cos I know we'll end up rowing. He even quietly washes the dishes he's deinged to bring out of his room while we're out - Xmas Angry

Bahhhumbug · 15/12/2010 14:35

Ahh thanks PETAL - I cant call anybody for doing a 'war and peace' Xmas Blush and it really does help to clarify in my mind what I need to say when other people summarise it and empathise with me. Like your last line for example - that is such a good simple way of putting it - that in view of DHs staunch refusal to compromise on length of residency then it is totally resonable for me to insist on a bathroom that only me and the man I sleep with use - as you would expect as bare minimum even in a hotel and even in a public place you would not share toilet facilities with males.

Bahhhumbug · 15/12/2010 14:38

Sorry I managed to make that sound long winded - not simple [fgin]

But I meant the bit about me therefore being perfectly reasonable to insist on using a bathroom that SS doesnt.

I think I'll do broken record technique on that stance just as DH does broken record technique on his. !

Bahhhumbug · 15/12/2010 14:39

Xmas Grin even - that wasnt a freudian slip btw - anyone got a slice of lemon some ice and tonic water ?

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Bahhhumbug · 15/12/2010 14:55

Yes MJ - I am upstairs also - just dont wanna be around him. What he does is grabs a glass off the drainer - runs himself a glass of water - stands there - necks it - then just turns glass back upside down on drainer. Another one is he will rinse his face and hands in kitchen sink then get a clean tea towel out of drawer and rub his hands and face dry with it. Then put it back in drawer. Gross !

Counteracts are as follows - I never use the general glasses I always get one of mine out of the top cupboard - he's barred from there - then wash it and put it back. Re the tea towel - I will leave same one just handy inside drawer and tuck clean ones at back - its sort of working with his laziness iyswim - he's always gonna go for the handiest one - every single time .

Bahhhumbug · 15/12/2010 14:57

What was 'the big row' MJ ? missed that on mi jollies. Just direct me to it save you typing it again.

glitzy · 15/12/2010 14:59

Awww Suda I really do feel your pain... while im reading your posts, I can feel myself getting worked up in the same way I do at home when my DSD does annoying / mean / selfish ... you know what I mean.

As mine is still younger, but not really "going" anywhere in life... I fear for the next 10 years of my life.

Bahhhumbug · 15/12/2010 15:02

Ahh thanks Glitz - 'I get by with a little help from my (MNet) friends.'

Dont worry am sure mine is an extreme worse scenario case !!

< resumes wallowing in self pity >

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Bahhhumbug · 15/12/2010 15:17

Also MJ - have not forgotten your advice am just gonna wait for it to come up again - but not as a row and then calmly tell DH - I accept X but I need you to accept Y etc etc and to work for all of us to be happy. Just seems if I bring it up out of blue straight away his backs up.

Oh and another thing about the dirty hands - GChild has a curtain into his wetroom - he broke the door ! and if you smell that curtain at around eye level it stinks of urine. How else can that get there except of his unwashed hands when he pulls curtain back ?

DHs excuse for him - Ladies and Gentlemen I give you the one, the only, the unsurpassed, the incredible worlds highest leg cocking dog - Bixie to his family and friends. Yes Ladies and Gentlemen at an incredible 20 inches high he can cock his leg to

not once

not twice

but an unbelievable three times his own height.

Bahhhumbug · 15/12/2010 15:19

Bixie runs from behind curtain and takes a bow sensing some treats coming on. Dont throw flowers he just eats them Xmas Grin

Petal02 · 15/12/2010 15:29

He blames the dog ???????? Is she some sort of veterinary miracle, with the sort of bladder that can project urine into the stratosphere???

Mind you, last time there were large, muddy trainer-prints on the dining room carpet, DH chose to blame the cat instead of SS. So I've got the only cat in the world who wears Reeboks !!!!

Suda, we should start a circus ..... !!!

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Bahhhumbug · 15/12/2010 15:33

PSML - Bixie is a boy btw or would be even more of a freak [fgin]

Just read it MJ - You just get so fucking weary with it all dont you - rond and round and fucking round. Xmas Sad - hope you are reasonably ok now.