Southgate stands down as England manager

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Southgate has resigned
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c978e37ld7ro.amp

I agree - it probably wasn’t. I don’t really get why you seem to be blaming Kane for the penalty situation though, because it’s the referee who decided to award the penalty. It’s not like Kane awarded it to himself. Surely your confusion/frustration should be directed to the referee and not to Kane?

I think this is a real shame. He brought dignity back to English men's football, he's achieved more than any other, but because they didn't get a trophy he gets absolutely annihilated. He took them from nothing to being a big international threat, consistently in the top few. Whether you like his style or not his achievements speak for themselves.

I think at least one of the goals we had disallowed offside due to VAR probably wouldn't have been called off with the naked eye, and maybe Kane's penalty wouldn't have either, but you win some you lose some, hand if God anyone?
Either way I don't see how the ref's interpretation of VAR is Harry Kane's fault, should he have purposefully missed?

He's done a great job of galvanising the team and reconnecting with the fans.

But, the got beat the same way in all 4 tournaments so hasn't actually managed to formulate a plan to do things differently. Relied too much on some players and took to many risks with injured players.

I didn't call for his head as that's disrespectful and wish him well in future endeavours

Right bunch of diving cheats, if Southgate's coaching them to do that, good riddance.

Kane's always done that though. Kicks the defender and goes down and tries for the pen.

Totally agree.

Absolutely. I agree with all of this.

There was one goal ruled out by VAR but it looked clearly off in real time and there was daylight (Foden against Slovakia I think). There was another tight one against the Holland but the lino flagged and VAR confirmed.

That pen decision was absurd. It'd be one thing the ref giving it after not having a great view but VAR to intervene to give it. Absolutely scandalous decision.

It sounds like you’re saying that Kane had something to do with the referee’s penalty decision. I can’t see how that is the case. It was totally up to the referee in terms of whether or not to give Kane the penalty.

Surely that's Alf Ramsey.

Gareth has done a fantastic job in talking 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 from the humiliation of Iceland to two finals in three years.

But.

This is the correct decision. He has clearly taken this group of players as far as he can, and the team needs a less tactically conservative manager who can set the team up to play to our strengths. In particular one who can get the best out of array of attacking talent which is the envy of the world.

England supporters should thank him & wish him well for the future.

No, I’m not. I’m saying that the referee decided to award the penalty to Kane and I’m fairly sure he would have taken into account Kane’s behaviour on the pitch when making that decision. If he thought Kane was faking injury, he probably wouldn’t have awarded it. Obviously I don’t know how the referee arrived at his decision to award the penalty. I’m just saying that I’m sure part of it would have involved working out whether Kane was genuinely injured or not (even if he recovered quickly, which is entirely possible).

Not sure what people are arguing about. I was glad of the Kane penalty. Seen them go against us often enough.

I don't watch generally but I watched most of the Euros because my family love it. When you say England are one of the worst for this, I don't think you're being fair at all. From what I saw it was common throughout the tournament, not just England or Kane.
I actually couldn't believe the way grown men were flinging themselves about like ragdolls after the slightest contact.
It was very noticeable to me as a casual watcher, maybe it's less noticeable to people who watch regularly and are used to it, but England definitely didn't stand out on that way.

It was a shocking dive and he faked the injury.

Good decision. He did well but the next manager will hopefully play better to the team’s strengths and choose the players who are performing well.

I’m not sure why you’re so focused on this or so certain he faked the injury. Unless you’re a Switzerland supporter? 😂

If you’re an England supporter, I’d have thought you’d celebrate the referee’s decision (even if it was controversial). If you’re a Switzerland supporter, I’m sorry. And if you’re someone who’s waltzed onto the thread purely for the purpose of running down Harry Kane, you’re not really welcome here.

Crap. No worse at it than any other team in the world. The sanctimonious crap coming from other teams is pathetic. If the penalty shouldn’t have been given that’s the fault of the officials. Gary Neville has a bloody nerve anyway given the dives I saw him and his fellow team mates do.

I agree. I do like Gary Neville and Gary Lineker/Alan Shearer normally, but I’ve been really disappointed by their comments on the England team’s performance this Euros. Their comments have been rude and not constructive or helpful, which has changed my opinion of them.