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73 replies

Luciam06 · 15/05/2024 12:50

Hi, I’m after a bit of advice please. My daughter is 10 and has been attending a dance class since she was 3. Years ago I used to really like the dance class and the teacher but over the years I found that unless your part of the click the dance teacher will say hi to you when you drop your child off but won’t have a conversation with you.
my daughter is always at the back of dance routines or the edge of the dances.
we have a comp coming up in June and she’s the only one in her dance class that havent got a duet or trio where all the other girls have a few each. We have even asked the dance teacher months ago can my daughter have more solos and she says yes but never does them.
when I’m waiting in the cafe area for my younger daughter to come out before my older daughter goes in none of the parents talk to me and I sit there all on my own. Now I’ve never done anything wrong, or said anything bad, I’m not a scruffy mum, or a posh mum I’m exactly like the rest of them. The only difference is I’m a bit quiet and I don’t talk about people like they do. They all just come back from a weekend away which we didn’t go to and my daughter found out and asked why we didn’t go is it coz no one likes us and started crying.
I pay this dance school anything from 1300-2000 a year in fees, costumes and extra classes and I’ve just had enough. I really want to take my daughter out but she really enjoys going and gets really upset when I say you have to finish
What do you think I should do

OP posts:
frecklejuice · 20/05/2024 12:57

You don’t live Bromley way do you op? There’s one dance school my niece went to for a couple of years and it sounds so much like your daughters!

PepsiMaxPerfect · 20/05/2024 14:09

StarsHideYourFir3s · 20/05/2024 10:52

I'm not OP but I don't understand this comment - why would the daughter be a pink lady unless they're doing a Grease-themed dance?

Attention - Pink Lady IS an example. U WANT 2 give the daughter the attention.

Make people talk about her - it does NOT have 2 B a Pink Lady - if U don`t like it, use somethin else. U did NOT understand, so U ASKED - so WILL others ... People WILL talk. They WILL tell their friends - did U hear about the Pink Lady ... who WILL tell their friends ... who WILL tell their friends ... People talkin about the daughter - which IS what U WANT - 2 B included

blacksax · 20/05/2024 14:18

PepsiMaxPerfect · 20/05/2024 14:09

Attention - Pink Lady IS an example. U WANT 2 give the daughter the attention.

Make people talk about her - it does NOT have 2 B a Pink Lady - if U don`t like it, use somethin else. U did NOT understand, so U ASKED - so WILL others ... People WILL talk. They WILL tell their friends - did U hear about the Pink Lady ... who WILL tell their friends ... who WILL tell their friends ... People talkin about the daughter - which IS what U WANT - 2 B included

Unless everyone falling about in hysterics is the sort of attention you want, then I wouldn't advise it.

People wear dancewear to dance classes, not dressing-up outfits.

wandawaves · 20/05/2024 14:43

PepsiMaxPerfect · 20/05/2024 14:09

Attention - Pink Lady IS an example. U WANT 2 give the daughter the attention.

Make people talk about her - it does NOT have 2 B a Pink Lady - if U don`t like it, use somethin else. U did NOT understand, so U ASKED - so WILL others ... People WILL talk. They WILL tell their friends - did U hear about the Pink Lady ... who WILL tell their friends ... who WILL tell their friends ... People talkin about the daughter - which IS what U WANT - 2 B included

What on earth are you talking about??

PepsiMaxPerfect · 20/05/2024 15:57

blacksax · 20/05/2024 14:18

Unless everyone falling about in hysterics is the sort of attention you want, then I wouldn't advise it.

People wear dancewear to dance classes, not dressing-up outfits.

Pink Lady WERE just an example
Pink Lady Bomber Jacket available ON the High Street - New Look

U CLEARLY have misunderstood

LAFFIN not required - Please Keep UP

Ginandtonics · 20/05/2024 16:03

I remember well when my kids were around that age being the ones left out, ignored if we said anything, I was even physically elbowed out of the way once when I struck up a conversation with someone they regarded as having a special status (who was actually my next door neighbour who was a perfectly nice person). It wasn't only me I discovered, as I started up a small inclusive friendship group activity for other local mum's who felt left out, and this in-crowd cabal discovered where we met and actually turned up en-mass to take over and make our original little group as unwelcome as possible. There's a certain sort of competitive but empty person that behaves like this, I've learnt. They focus their own thwarted ambition on their children, particularly when there's a sport or specific activity involved and they are very competitive. It seems to be about finding a way to feel better about themselves, needing to make someone the outsider to big up their own sense of being ok. If what you're experiencing is anything like what I went through it's not nice, nor is it your over sensitivity or imagination, just in case someone tries to gaslight you by suggesting that. The dance school should absolutely be on top of this but of course they may realise that pandering to the in-crowd is better for business. Sorry it's you, it's vile behaviour from adults who should know better.

blacksax · 20/05/2024 16:05

PepsiMaxPerfect · 20/05/2024 15:57

Pink Lady WERE just an example
Pink Lady Bomber Jacket available ON the High Street - New Look

U CLEARLY have misunderstood

LAFFIN not required - Please Keep UP

There IS someone who's CLEARLY misunderstanding, and it ain't me.

DrJonesIpresume · 20/05/2024 16:21

PepsiMaxPerfect · 20/05/2024 15:57

Pink Lady WERE just an example
Pink Lady Bomber Jacket available ON the High Street - New Look

U CLEARLY have misunderstood

LAFFIN not required - Please Keep UP

Eh?

PepsiMaxPerfect · 20/05/2024 16:31

Pink Lady - NOT dancing - please keep up

Dance class
blacksax · 20/05/2024 16:43

Pink Lady - NOT dancing - please keep up
The whole thread (apart from your posts) is about a dance school.Confused

Why on God's green earth do you think that wearing some random item of clothing, pink or otherwise, is going to make the blindest bit of difference?

silverbirches · 20/05/2024 16:47

PepsiMaxPerfect · 20/05/2024 14:09

Attention - Pink Lady IS an example. U WANT 2 give the daughter the attention.

Make people talk about her - it does NOT have 2 B a Pink Lady - if U don`t like it, use somethin else. U did NOT understand, so U ASKED - so WILL others ... People WILL talk. They WILL tell their friends - did U hear about the Pink Lady ... who WILL tell their friends ... who WILL tell their friends ... People talkin about the daughter - which IS what U WANT - 2 B included

U OK hun?

StarsHideYourFir3s · 20/05/2024 16:48

PepsiMaxPerfect · 20/05/2024 14:09

Attention - Pink Lady IS an example. U WANT 2 give the daughter the attention.

Make people talk about her - it does NOT have 2 B a Pink Lady - if U don`t like it, use somethin else. U did NOT understand, so U ASKED - so WILL others ... People WILL talk. They WILL tell their friends - did U hear about the Pink Lady ... who WILL tell their friends ... who WILL tell their friends ... People talkin about the daughter - which IS what U WANT - 2 B included

I dunno. If a parent dressed their kid up to stand out in a dance, I'd pity the child. I also feel a dance school wouldn't allow it.

DrJonesIpresume · 20/05/2024 17:30

The dance school would definitely not allow it. They need to wear the dance school uniform in class, and whatever costume they have been told to wear in competitions. If it is a solo costume, then it needs to match the dance routine, which will have been taught to them and rehearsed umpteen times beforehand. You can't just turn up wearing what you like and do your own little dance, these competitions are not like a kiddies holiday camp talent show.

OldPerson · 20/05/2024 17:45

Oh dear. Just read through all the posts.

Why did the daughter originally go to dance class? And now goes to dance class 3/4 times a week?

Am I missing something? Because you have to be driven to go to dance class 3/4 times a week - or someone does?

Or to put it another way - if your daughter is not marked out for dance career stardom/ or even getting noticed in amateur group - why is your daughter going to dance class 3/4 times a week?

My youngest started music (piano) class year 7. Not going to factor in Covid, but she's basically had music, alongside playing for school sports teams, baking for extra-curricular cake competitions, girl guides, duke of ediburgh bronze and silver, local regular litter picking, volunteering at bird sanctuary ....

Sending your child to one activity 3/4 times a week. That is pretty hardcore.

No idea what our daughter will do post-University. But she's had a lot of exposure to so many groups and activities. She's predicted high GCSE grades.

Everything parenting is so many choices and weighing up decisions. But right now, I think we made a good choice to support a variety of team activities, rather than focus attention on just one activity.

If there's issues with Dance and child goes 3/4 times a week and that's not her career intention ... then I'd look at going just once a week and broadening her activity interests.

DrJonesIpresume · 20/05/2024 19:15

@OldPerson You can practice the piano every day at home, and the teacher can come to you.

You can't practice a competition dance routine at home, you have to go to them. It is easy to do 3/4 dance classes a week - ballet, tap and modern are three styles that are commonly done every week by thousands of kids, often from about age 7+. Most kids who go to dance school and really like it will end up doing several genres. Higher grades give you UCAS points.

Incidentally, the kids who do have the ability to make a career out of dance will be doing considerably more than 3/4 classes a week by their teens. Mine was doing 3 hours a day, 5 days a week, plus all day Saturdays. And yes, she did get good GCSE's.

141mum · 20/05/2024 19:26

DrJonesIpresume · 19/05/2024 21:12

I think it depends on the dance style, but the OP hasn't said.

The freestyle, acro, show dance etc ones can be extremely focused on winning competitions, far more so than the ones that just do ballet, modern and tap. Some dance schools don't do the competition circuit at all, and concentrate on syllabus exams and their annual dance school show. The parents at those don't have as much to complain / compete with each other about! Having said that, I have come up against a few terrifying 'tiger' mums at ballet auditions in my time!

My DD was Irish Dance, dear God, what a lot of horrid mums, tbh, the kids were bloody awful too.
parents would fly to Ireland to have dresses made at £1000 plus
would stand at side of stage videoing so they could see where mistakes were made, some even did the dance at the edge as well
all but 1 of those kids got no where, it was the parents dream
my dd stopped, thank god, went to a different class a few years later, but like a lot of teenagers, gave up

Rowgtfc72 · 20/05/2024 19:33

Dd started dance at 2, she left when she was about 10.
Her dance school was heavily comp based. We didn't do comps.
In shows she was generally at the back / side because she was massively tall for her age, solid child and ginger. She just didn't fit. No solos/ duos/trios.
She did love the dance school though but only made a couple of friends.
I didn't really chat with the other parents, we didn't really have a lot in common. Spray tans and lycra went over my head.
We went to one comp where you didn't have to be affiliated and dd walked off with a first in slow and fast beating kids twice her age. She just wanted to dance.
Eventually the dance school spectacularly folded with so much bitchiness and everyone moved on to another dance school.
Dd moved onto karate and got her black belt this year. She's a much better fit at karate.

If your dd likes the dance school by all means stay and take it for what it is.
Otherwise try another, or a different hobby.

PepsiMaxPerfect · 20/05/2024 21:48

The Pink Lady WERE an example to the question asked.
What do you think I should do
> Take the idea, and make it fit. Work with it.
Arrive in Pink Lady - B 4 the show.

< show and costume time >
Leave the show as The Pink Lady.
DON`T just B - The Pink Lady 4 the show.
It IS an "IN" to the circle.
Think the BIGGER picture

Dance class
blacksax · 20/05/2024 22:06

PepsiMaxPerfect · 20/05/2024 21:48

The Pink Lady WERE an example to the question asked.
What do you think I should do
> Take the idea, and make it fit. Work with it.
Arrive in Pink Lady - B 4 the show.

< show and costume time >
Leave the show as The Pink Lady.
DON`T just B - The Pink Lady 4 the show.
It IS an "IN" to the circle.
Think the BIGGER picture

Are you on commission or something?

PepsiMaxPerfect · 20/05/2024 22:42

Please Keep UP - I offered, The Pink Lady WERE an example to the question asked
> Any brand CAN B used
The Pink Lady - can B substituted.
It provided a wide scope - similar to The Pink Lady brand currently available in all good stores.
The Pink Lady - 4 the little lady to become
The Pink Lady CAN also B worn by Rugby playin guys - that would ALSO attract attention. Which IS the process, for the suggestion of The Pink Lady.

blacksax · 20/05/2024 23:40

Please Keep UP

Bit rude.

141mum · 22/05/2024 16:25

Did someone say, pink lady 😂

PepsiMaxPerfect · 22/05/2024 21:00

NOT the fruit, the apple - pink lady
As seen IN a supermarket near U
> Probably Sainsbury`s

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