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Do you have questions on the special educational needs and disability (SEND) Review? Ask Minister for Children and Families, Will Quince MP

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GraceEMumsnet · 26/04/2022 14:40

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The Department for Education is seeking views on the changes they want to make to the special educational needs and disabilities (SEND) and alternative provision (AP) system in England. For further information visit SEND Review.

Read below for Will Quince's answers to some of your questions.

About Will Quince MP:

“Will Quince is the MP for Colchester and was appointed as a Parliamentary Under Secretary of State at the Department for Education on 16 September 2021. As Minister for children and families, his responsibilities include children’s social care, families, children in care, children in need, child protection, adoption and care leavers, early years, special educational needs including high needs funding, alternative provision and vulnerable children.”

Here’s what DfE has to say:

“We have listened to many children, young people, parents, teachers and those who work for and advocate for children with special educational needs and disabilities, to ensure our proposals were shaped by those who work within the system and those who should benefit from it. However, it is critical that we hear from even more people to gain invaluable feedback and expertise from a wide range of perspectives before final decisions are made. Our public consultation is open until the 1st of July, and we want everyone to have their say and help to shape the future of the system. For further information visit: http://sendreview.campaign.gov.uk

Thanks, MNHQ!

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uggerthebugger · 28/05/2022 09:12

GloGirl · 19/05/2022 16:21

I think this is the most disappointing answer of them all, standardising and digitising EHCPs will no doubt be beneficial in the long term but offers no support to parents to access EHCPs, will not offer any incentive for schools or LAs to implement them, and will not clear the current massive backlog. As I'm sure you're aware standardisation among multi-agencies is not quick and digitising will come at a snail's pace. It will lead to confusion and delay the process in the interim.

In another response you mention "Nationally, in 2020, only 1.7% of all appealable decisions subsequently resulted in an appeal to the SEND Tribunal."

Curious to see a 2020 statistic given the timing of it , I tried to find information for the year 2019. Google would only provide this statement repeated in numerous places. What's the answer for 2019 please?

The official tribunal appeal rate figure for 2019 was 1.8%. It’s published here www.gov.uk/government/statistics/tribunal-statistics-quarterly-january-to-march-2021

The official appeal rate for 2021 should be out in the next couple of weeks.

These figures are bollocks though. They massively underestimate the real appeal rate - LA incompetence & bastardry mean that a lot of opportunities to appeal just don’t materialise.

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Doubleraspberry · 28/05/2022 09:21

Yes. How many families who receive an appealable decision understand that they could appeal? Are signposted to support services by schools/LAs? The number of appeals that are won once appealed is usually pretty telling, not to mention how many appeals are settled before tribunal but after the family has had to set wheels in motion.

Using statistics against families who live the reality is a bit of an insult.

RosstopherGeller · 28/05/2022 09:34

WillQuinceMP · 17/05/2022 13:11

Hi @RosstopherGeller thank you for your top questions but please feed in your others as part of the Review, it's so important that we listen and get this right.
We want to provide parents and carers with a clearer understanding of the support that should be available to meet their child’s needs, in line with the national standards, regardless of where they live. We have to end the postcode lottery.
Where specialist provision is most appropriate for a child, we are consulting on proposals for a simplified process where parents will be supported to express an informed preference for a suitable placement from a tailored list of settings, co-produced between LAs and parents, that are appropriate to meet their child’s needs. This aims to give parents and carers clarity on what is available locally, but this may still include independent or out of borough provision where appropriate in order to meet the child’s needs.
Throughout the SEND Review, parents and carers told the me how lengthy, stressful, and often expensive, the tribunal process can be. I get it and want to improve the situation. Our proposals set out in the Green Paper seek to enable issues to be resolved earlier and improve relationships locally by strengthening mediation, including consulting on making it mandatory.
Mediation is effective in the majority of cases. In 2020, 73% of mediation cases were settled without the need to progress to Tribunal.
I'm looking closely at mediation as strong views have been shared and I am listening.
National standards will ensure that there is greater fairness and consistency in decision-making across the country in how needs are identified, assessed, and supported, which will bring clarity and help improve overall parental confidence.
Apologies for the long response but they are good questions and you are right to push me on these issues so we stress test our ideas and proposals.

Hi Will
I appreciate you acknowledging my questions and you can rest-assured I have completed my responses formally too. What I do not understand is why you think the current position where a parent could name any school anywhere in the country, would be improved by a restricted list.

I am also concerned about the "informed preferences". I think you need to consult with the ICO about demanding consent, which is what the proposal sounds like. If the situation does not actually allow for it e.g. the parent choice is restricted, you should not request they sign to say they have consented.

I'm not sure if you are aware that currently there is no means of recording when it is the LA that has refused to mediate. This is probably because they should not do this, but it absolutely happens. It would be easy to add this as an option to the mediation certificate process, and give the ability to monitor which LAs have a cultural of refusing to adhere to their statutory duties. It should also include the LA not turning up at the mediation meeting, again something that happens.

It is really disappointing you did not answer the value for money question on independent settings - if you are stating something is poor VfM then you should show your workings.

Most of all, I hope you listened to the Chief Executive of IPSEA Ali Fiddy speaking last week. If you really want to ensure children with SEN needs are met, then you need to hold the LAs to account, not remove rights from parents to enforce them.

Onceuponatimethen · 28/05/2022 10:02

I actually really wonder what the point is of chats like this. Effectively the politician gets a platform to spout one sided platitudes without being challenged. As ever so many questions left unanswered. I think it should be a condition of coming on that they at least answer every question. They have plenty of staff to prepare their answers and are paid with public money.

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