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Find out parents' thoughts on the Climate Emergency

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JustineBMumsnet · 27/01/2020 11:26

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With a rise in extraordinary weather events around the world and activists like Greta Thunberg in the public eye, more people than ever before are engaging with and are worried about climate change. Following the launch of the “Portraits from the Precipice” campaign - which places art that inspires action on climate change on digital billboards across the country - we’d like to hear your thoughts on the Climate Emergency.

Here's what Octopus Energy – the green energy supplier behind Portraits from the Precipice – has to say: “With climate experts giving humanity 10 years to slow rising global temperatures, the time to take action for the planet is now. We all have a crucial role to play in combating the climate emergency.

Whether it be to switch to a renewable energy company, to buy an electric vehicle or even to just make small dietary changes or reduce the amount of plastic waste in your home… acknowledging the problem is just step one, we now need to act.”

Thinking of the Climate Emergency, what are your biggest concerns, if any, for yours and your children’s future? Are there any small things your family does to try and help? What would you recommend as being the most effective change people can make in helping the fight against Climate Change?

How aware are your children of the Climate Emergency? How do you talk to them about it? Do you think schools are doing enough to educate children on the Climate Emergency?

All who share their thoughts on the Climate Emergency on the thread below will be entered into a prize draw where one MNer will win a £300 voucher for the store of their choice (from a list and provided by Mumsnet). Octopus Energy will also donate £300 to a charity fighting climate change, of the winner’s choice.

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Find out parents' thoughts on the Climate Emergency
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MulberryPeony · 29/01/2020 13:20

My children are very aware from a combination of climate strikes and probably more from our home energy set up - solar panels, electric and hybrid cars. They aren’t worried about climate change perhaps because we are making changes they feel empowered? My eldest was in fact much more worried about Brexit.

Elliebobtail · 29/01/2020 16:00

As a family we are trying all of the things we can to recycle/ eat less meat etc.

‘Tweetle’ above shared some of the questions that I wonder too.
The problem is governments, consumerism and capitalism. Nothing will change fast until companies, society and government implement change.
My kids are very well educated at school on this, and they often come home with new ideas for us to improve, the problem is often the cost effectiveness of it all :(

GhostsToMonsoon · 29/01/2020 17:00

My biggest concern is probably that I was reading about climate change - and other environmental problems such as habitat destruction, biodiversity loss and waste - getting on for 30 years ago and that not enough has been done over the years.

I find there's a lot of cognitive dissonance in that I spend a fair amount of time reading about the seriousness of the situation - and dipping into the likes of Jem Bendell and Rupert Read from time to time - but then am also preoccupied with mundane details of daily life.

What can we do as individuals? Walk, cycle or use public transport when possible, switch to a renewable energy provider, reduce, reuse and recycle, avoid single-use plastics, eat a plant-based diet, grow your own vegetables.

We also need to keep up the pressure on local and national government. Write or visit your MP. Write to your councillors or attend council meetings. Many local councils have declared climate emergencies but this needs to translate into action.

My children are aware of climate change and my son has read Greta Thunberg's book of speeches, but I don't think they've learned about it at school.

SillyMoomin · 29/01/2020 17:05

I’m of the generation that thought the world was invincible. Plastic everything, never gave a thought to any of it.
It’s now, that I read about plastics and the oceans and the Changing temperatures that I’m worried.

BUT. I still want to take flights on holidays, and eat meat. So... I’m a hypocrite really.

I’m not sure what the answer is. But it’s scary

Plural · 29/01/2020 17:09

Thinking of getting an electric bike. The Uber jump bikes have made places so much more accessible

HopefullyAnonymous · 29/01/2020 17:13

The kids are both interested in environmental issues. DD loves watching nature programmes and so is horrified by what humans are doing to the planet.

As a family we try to live by the three Rs, limit the amount of meat we eat and plastic we use. They understand when I ask them whether they need what they’ve asked for or just want it. DS quite likes gardening and so helps me maintain a little herb garden in pots in the utility.

We could do a lot more though, as a family and as a country. Political figures like their little sound bites but are just not held to account. I agree with a PP in that I worry taxes will be raised under the guise of combatting climate change, but this will affect us on an individual level and not tackle big businesses. Coca Cola, I’m looking at you here!

chocolateteapot20 · 29/01/2020 18:36

The tipping point has been reached. We can't prevent it now. So the question is, what do we do about it, especially given that, to be frank, the best thing that could happen for Planet Earth would be for the human race to vanish.

Thing is, partly due to income levels and partly due to choice, we live a reasonably sustainable/low impact lifestyle in this household. Our three worst vices are the car (which is necessary for one household member, a registered nurse, to get to work and make a living, and since my family lives 500 miles away, travelling to see them by car is - just - less damaging than flying; trains are prohibitively expensive), the amount of electronics we have (necessary for other household member to earn a living and, again, slightly less damaging than travelling all round the place for meetings - lots of remote working here); and our pets (two cats). Oh, and we still eat a small amount of organic meat, locally reared and delivered, and sustainable fish, mainly locally caught and delivered. Fruit and veg, eggs and butter come from the local community farm once a month and we are investigating milk deliveries in glass bottles which can be washed and reused again and again. The other vice is fizzy drinks, which we now manage with a Sodastream - not ideal, but better than buying endless plastic bottles of cola.

Other than that, we rarely buy new clothes (underwear, shoes and work uniform excepted); the rest come almost exclusively from charity shops; we are library members, we read ebooks, we recycle books where we can (charity shops again); we don't smoke, we drink alcohol maybe once or twice a year, and when we go on holiday it's usually the UK or maybe, as a treat, Europe. We use beeswax wraps and sandwich boxes, flasks and coffee cups for lunches.

We cook a lot from scratch and freeze the leftovers. We have a breadmaker. Leftovers get put in the compost bin or into the biomass boiler collection which our local authority runs. We repurpose just about everything we can until it falls apart and can no longer be used.

Overall, we are all going to have to start thinking smaller, and smarter. Solar panels, clockwork, using the power of wind, water, and the sun to power our homes. (We've been watching the cost of portable solar panels with interest as we can't put them on the roof, we live in a converted house so it's not just our decision.)

And then there are the floods. I don't understand why we aren't talking to the Dutch more than we are and learning from them about houses on stilts and making sure electrical sockets are wired into the walls above the level any floodwater would reach. What is this British obsession with having electrical sockets near the skirting boards??

Then there's continuing to buy local, and support local businesses. I lived in Devon for four years, and from a green perspective much of the West Country is way ahead of the rest of England.

Am I worried about the environment? Yes. I'm worried because we have materialistic, ostrich-like leaders who don't seem to realise, or don't want to admit, that if we continue as we are, we won't have an ecology, never mind an economy.

We don't have our own kids, but we have several nieces and nephews of varying ages. I take encouragement from the fact that the older ones do seem to be pretty aware, ecologically. Their involvement with their local Scouting group (which has a brilliant female leader) means they've learned bushcraft, and independence, and getting on with others, all of which will be essential to survival in the decades ahead. I

I certainly don't think demonising and declaring groups like Greenpeace and Extinction Rebellion is the right approach. As a friend's husband (by no means wealthy but took early retirement, and starting to get involved with Extinction Rebellion) said when we were chatting recently: "I want to be on the right side of history".

Montydoo · 29/01/2020 18:41

what are your biggest concerns, if any, for yours and your children’s future?

Rising sea levels, air pollution, and plastic in the ocean

Are there any small things your family does to try and help?

Reusable plastic bags, avoiding plastic packing, re-using, upcycling raiding charity shops for clothes and toys and joining a toy library

What would you recommend as being the most effective change people can make in helping the fight against Climate Change?*

Take less long hall flights, stop using single use plastic, keep recycling

How aware are your children of the Climate Emergency?

Yes, buy I try not to worry them too much, we 'do our bit' and that seems to satisfy them.

How do you talk to them about it?

I will answer their questions, but not alarm them with my answers, but quite honestly I don't enough about it - they asked about the fires in Australia, and if it was because of climate change - honestly I don't know.

Do you think schools are doing enough to educate children on the Climate Emergency?

For my child's age group - yes, it depends on their age. Schools have a responsibility to help educate, not alarm and help children understand how to help look after our planet.

BellaVida · 29/01/2020 19:57

My biggest concerns for my and my children’s future are growing consumerism, mass production and the overall environmental impact. Our planet simply cannot sustain itself and life in it if we continue to overuse its natural resources and throw back our non-biodegradable waste materials!

As a family, we try to do our bit. We switched to a green energy provider. We use an electric car and cycle as much as possible. Everything possible is recycled and we buy as much as possible in recyclable packaging or loose. We buy second hand ( school even has a great used uniform shop) and sell unused stuff online or donate. I eat a vegetarian diet (have done for years) and the children occasionally eat ethically sourced fish. We make good use of the libraries and local hire schemes. We shower instead of bathing and are not overzealous with the heating. Yes, I am sure we could do more,but if everyone does their bit, we can have an impact.

The most effective change people can make in helping the fight against Climate Change is to change the “want it cheap, want it now” mentality which drives corporations to mass produce low quality goods, using cheap, environmentally damaging materials and processes. For example, why don’t companies invest more in eco-friendly materials? If they all switched, it would drive the cost down and become more mainstream- for example potato starch or cotton based wrapping.

My children are aware of the Climate Emergency, but believe we have the ability to make the right changes. They keep up to date on the latest news and developments.

I talk to them about it if they ask specific questions. We also watch quite a few documentaries together or they pick up on news stories.

I think schools have a responsibility to educate children about the world in general and our impact in the natural environment has a part to play. My children's schools have loads of environmental initiatives, but Cerysinky fue the younger pupils, they don’t refer to a Climate Emergency- it would be too alarmist. They have an eco-committee, fair trade group, lectures, debates and explore the impact they and the school have, as well as coming up with new ideas to save energy, reduce food waste etc. I think the emphasis should be very much about taking on responsibility at whatever age to take positive action, not just talking about it!

GeePipe · 29/01/2020 20:19

Much more needs to be done on a global scale. We as a country need to stop importing things we can grow or make here. we need to reduce reuse and recycle more. The government needs to improve public transport to more renuable sources and reduce cars on the roads. Solar energy is needed more and more and there should be a bigger focus on old style businesses reopenimg and replacing fast fashion eg cobblers and seamstresses. Make do and mend. We need a more ww2 style model in that respect.

YesIDoLoveCrisps · 29/01/2020 20:56

I am with Octopus Energy.
I talk to my children about climate change, they know about Greta Thunberg and what she stands for.
We do our best to recycle, we reuse and upcycle as much as we can - it’s good for us too as it saves money!
There’s so much awareness now about the climate emergency, teenagers now are SO much more aware than any other age group- it’s cool to care about the future. I cringe back to when I was a teenager and we had single use takeaway packaging etc and didn’t care, but I guess we didn’t realise!

foxessocks · 29/01/2020 21:03

It's scary but I do think attitudes are changing, ok too slowly really but I am going to stay positive that we will do something about this before it's too late. For me, I'm doing what I can when I can, it's not enough but I'm trying.

Frazzled2207 · 29/01/2020 21:18

What are your biggest concerns, if any, for yours and your children’s future?
It's more about my children's future for me. What kind of world are they going to grow up in? If i'm honest I have no idea but I have very little faith that global governments are going to collectively work together to save their future. Most of the world is obsessed with capitalism and consumerism neither of which lend themselves to living sustainably.

Are there any small things your family does to try and help?
Yes lots. We are fairly anal about recycling, recently switched to an electric car, switched to octopus energy already! Far more conscious about buying 'stuff' - usually only buy stuff which is specifically needed and buy far less food and drink with disposable packaging. Not ready to stop flying yet but have committed to flying less. We have solar panels on our roof which heats our hot water between april and october. Become a 90% veggie family.

What would you recommend as being the most effective change people can make in helping the fight against Climate Change?
Fight consumerism.

How aware are your children of the Climate Emergency? How do you talk to them about it? Do you think schools are doing enough to educate children on the Climate Emergency?
Our sons are 4 and 6, the youngest one not really aware but elder son definitely is and has been to climate strikes etc. We have bought him some books and he understands on a basic level about the issues with the climate warming and too much disposable plastic. He loves the fact that our electric car is emissions free. The school are getting on board with it slowly but not to a serious extent (yet). I really hope schools do pull out the stops to educate the next generation because it's totally vital to our existence.

Nacreous · 29/01/2020 21:51

I use 100% green electricity, buy carbon offset gas, and carbon offset any flights.

I should also carbon offset my car use really, it's inexpensive and easy to do.

I do try and keep gas and electric useage low anyway: around £45 per month in total.

I cycle or walk as much as practicable: I think I use the car an average of 3 times a fortnight. I could still do more and I need to consider getting an electric bike as I run a cub pack and drive every week because the prospect of loading all the stuff into my panniers, huffing and puffing up the hill on a 3 mile trip and then having to cycle home at the end of the evening just overwhelms my willpower every week.

I try to buy second hand where possible.

My meat and dairy consumption is a definite issue, but I have dietary restrictions which make reducing it difficult. I do endeavour to buy British where I can.

What are my concerns? When I see the extreme weather events I really do worry. I don't have particular concerns about the actual warming, because while I'm sure there will be devasting effects, I don't think I will see them in my lifetime. They concern me in an abstract sense but it's not concrete. But watching the increasing frequency of tropical storms, the unprecedented situation in Australia, the now-regular heatwaves in Europe, makes me concerned in the immediate term for the increase in extreme weather.

I think it will take a really seismic shift though, as at the moment consumption rates are still extraordinary and other than major legislation which there isn't currently a government appetite for,. I don't think we will see major changes imminently.

I think there needs to be more top down intervention to aid people in being "green". e.g. taxes on non-green electricity so green tariffs are cheaper, funding to support "green travel plans" where public transport use for commuting is subsidised through e.g. carpark charges for those who choose to commute by car. We have this at my workplace along with free bike repair sessions and it's very effective. There should be grants for small workplaces to provide e.g. bike racks and showers for staff, and there should be government funding for decent quality public transport systems. There needs to be a mandated higher minimum standard of recycling and what is collected Vs what you have to take to a bin, and food waste collections should be mandated. The UK should mandate carbon offset on flights leaving it's airports or at least seriously consider it. There needs to be investment on a national level in e.g. electric car charging points. My town council is great at putting these in the town centre carparks but they need expanding. All new build houses and flats should have them, and solar panels and we should be really pushing for them all to be built to passivhaus standards. External shutters should also be mandated on new builds as with the increase in heatwaves we need to decrease the introduction of personal air conditioning and we do that by making it possible to keep heat out of houses as well as in.

del2929 · 29/01/2020 23:39

its a great worry tbh, its great to see some companies tackling the issue.
its even better when celebs get on board as it spreads the message wider.

wurlycurly · 29/01/2020 23:41

I take a macro view. I feel it is too late to save humans but the planet will be just fine without us. People don’t appear to have a real appetite for change and it seems for a lot of people ‘green choices’ are just consumerism in another form.

RitaHayworthHair · 29/01/2020 23:43

I'm just so worried for my children's future and what kind of life they're going to have.

Wish there was more government intervention to do something significant

AlliKaneErikson · 30/01/2020 00:17

My dc are acutely aware of environmental problems; DD is her class rep on the school eco committee and is very enthusiastic about promoting all things eco friendly. We aim to recycle everything we can, and try to limit single use plastics. We’ve also made eco bricks out of non recyclable plastics. We have changed our outlook but I know we could still do more.

HopelesslydevotedtoGu · 30/01/2020 05:54

My kids are aware of the climate emergency, and we have made many changes to reduce our carbon footprint. I find it hardest to explain to my kids why other people aren't making changes. They ask why do my friends get driven to school (who live really close), why do people sit with their engines on, why do people drop litter? I find it hard to answer those questions.

HelgaHere1 · 30/01/2020 06:38

We should tax aviation fuel like we do car fuel. Lots of jobs would be lost - air crews, airports, customs, manufacturers, hotel owners and staff at holiday destinations . I presume that's why it hasn't been done before now.

1moreRep · 30/01/2020 07:55

it's overwhelming but i just try to do my bit while still financially keep my head above water

most of the climate friendly things are more expensive so i just don't buy either

minkeymonkeys · 30/01/2020 08:33

I'm really scared about this. The future is very uncertain. Doing a little bit is not enough. We all need to be doing more.

Ganne1 · 30/01/2020 08:43

I used to be very careful about recycling and that sort of thing, (I still am). However, all these idiots blocking roads in protest have made me think that really the problem is with these lunatics, not the care of the environment. I'm now less bothered, but still recycle nevertheless.

davyu1 · 30/01/2020 08:47

There's a lot of money and fame to be made from this climate change malarkey. Don't fool for it peoples.....oh...you already have

happysouls · 30/01/2020 08:59

I do what I can but too many people don't. I have no faith in politicians in any respect including this one. Too much selfish behaviour. Everyone will take what they want and profit from the world at the expense of what is left for the next generation.