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NOW CLOSED Talk to M&S about their kidswear and win one of two £100 M&S giftcards

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TheOtherHelenMumsnet · 16/05/2012 10:35

As you may have seen, we're working with M&S over the next few months - the Mumsnet M&S panel are going to be putting shapewear and the Simply Fuller Longer range to the test, and now we're asking all MNers to tell us what you think about M&S kidswear.

Here's what M&S say about their Kidswear: "We believe that at M&S you can find great value and fashionable kids' clothes. We also want to make shopping for kids' clothes as stress-free as possible, so we're asking Mumsnetters for their feedback on all things kidswear-related so that we can continue to improve our ranges."

We've provided some questions below to get you started, but please feel free to add any other comments you have as well. Everyone who adds their comments to this thread will be entered into a prize draw to win one of two £100 M&S giftcards. Please note, we want your honest opinions and we don't want you to do any research online before you answer the questions below so no cheating now!

~ Have you ever bought any M&S Kidswear? What's your overall opinion of it? If you're a regular buyer, what makes you buy? If you're not, is there anything specific that's stopping you? What other brands/shops do you buy kids' clothes from?

~ When you're shopping for kids' clothes, what are the most important factors? Is it cost, quality, colour/design, style or brand/label? Or a complicated combination of all of those?!

~ Do you tend to shop in store or online for kids' clothes and why? If you shop in store, do you look online at what items you might buy beforehand, or do you tend to go and see what takes your/your DC's fancy?

~ Is there anything that you think M&S could do to encourage you to buy their kidswear? Or buy it more often if you already buy it? Is there anything missing from their kidswear ranges that you'd like to see more of? Do you think they cater for certain ages better than others? Or for boys better than girls or vice versa?

~ Thinking specifically about the M&S baby ranges, what's your overall opinion of these? Do you think there's enough variety? Is there anything you'd like to see more of?

Thanks and good luck with the prize draw
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misscph1973 · 17/05/2012 21:14

~ Have you ever bought any M&S Kidswear? What's your overall opinion of it? If you're a regular buyer, what makes you buy? If you're not, is there anything specific that's stopping you? What other brands/shops do you buy kids' clothes from?

  • Yes, I have bought school uniforms and night wear. Overall I think for the price it's good value, especially the school uniforms. I like the thermal underwear, it's nice even if it does get a bit "linty". I have had some nightwear and underwear that lost its shape in the wash but it wasn't very expensive. I buy M&S because I live very close to a very large M&S so its' convenient for me. I like the colourful ranges, they are spot on. I also buy school uniforms from Next and I buy kids clothes from Polarn & Pyrat, Tommy Hilfiger, Noa Noa, Debenhams, Phister & Phillina, Ralph Lauren, Minymo and Mini a Ture. I might add that I mainly buy second hand non-school clothes on ebay and sales/outlets, hardly ever at full price.

~ When you're shopping for kids' clothes, what are the most important factors? Is it cost, quality, colour/design, style or brand/label? Or a complicated combination of all of those?!

  • Yes, it is a complicated combination of all those, that's a very good way to put it ;) Cost is a big factor, but I do mainly buy labels that I know are of good quality so they won't shrink, fade or loose shape and hopefully I can sell it on on ebay if it's not too worn. I do generally go for a very colourful style.

~ Do you tend to shop in store or online for kids' clothes and why? If you shop in store, do you look online at what items you might buy beforehand, or do you tend to go and see what takes your/your DC's fancy?

  • For M&S clothes I look online, and sometimes I will order for store delivery. Other brands I nearly always buy online. I don't like shopping in stores as I think it takes too much time out of my day and I hate it when the sizes I need are sold out. I hardly ever let my children decide!

~ Is there anything that you think M&S could do to encourage you to buy their kidswear? Or buy it more often if you already buy it? Is there anything missing from their kidswear ranges that you'd like to see more of? Do you think they cater for certain ages better than others? Or for boys better than girls or vice versa?

  • I would like to see more durable clothes, perhaps that M&S stop having the cheaper lines, as it is too tempting to buy it instead of he more expensive lines and expect M&S quality and then it's not. I have always thought of M&S as good quality, but in recent years cheaper lines have been introduced and the quality is not as good and it's disappointing. I think the M&S brand is loosing its good reputation. It's only really the Autograph line and similar that is of good quality and that is a shame. I understand that the market has changed and that M&S would like to keep their market share, but I think eventually it will mean the end of M&S. I would like to see M&S prove they are in it for the long run. The recent tag line "Quality worth every penny" sounded a bit desperate and not very true.

~ Thinking specifically about the M&S baby ranges, what's your overall opinion of these? Do you think there's enough variety? Is there anything you'd like to see more of?

  • I never had any M&S baby clothes so I can't give my opinion on that.
helenlynn · 17/05/2012 21:21

I've bought M&S baby clothes, never anything for older children. Their things are good quality and reasonably priced and feel as though they are comfy to wear, all of which are non-negotiable requirements, but like most shops they go for awful gender stereotyping - mostly blue/brown/grey with traffic and plain edges, or pink/purple with flowers and scalloped edges. I did buy some long- and short-sleeved vests in packs of five different bright colours from M&S when my son was tiny, and liked them so much I wished I'd bought the next year's worth in the same style. They were out of stock by then so I scoured eBay for the next two sizes up, and he was always in them until he grew out of them. M&S is where I'd most like to be able to buy baby clothes, and there are a few things we could really do with him having at the moment, but lately I can't summon the energy to go and look at all the pink and blue rubbish -- I keep resolving to go in when we are in town but I always end up avoiding what I expect to be a disappointment. If there were more nice bright unisex things it would be something of a relief!

aristocat · 17/05/2012 21:37

~ Have you ever bought any M&S Kidswear? What's your overall opinion of it? If you're a regular buyer, what makes you buy? If you're not, is there anything specific that's stopping you? What other brands/shops do you buy kids' clothes from?
Yes even before I had my 2 DCs I have purchased kidswear from there for friends children. I like their childrenswear very much and it is usually good quality at a reasonable price. My DD is almost 8 and she wears your age 9 girls clothes, a special favourite is a leggings/tunic top in blue/cream stripes that gets worn alot. School uniform is unbeatable IMO and pants/socks/tights all get the thumbs up too.
Other brands are usually Next, HoF, Gap, eBay and sometimes Asda/Sainsburys.

~ When you're shopping for kids' clothes, what are the most important factors? Is it cost, quality, colour/design, style or brand/label? Or a complicated combination of all of those?!
Yes definitely a combination for me .... but kidswear also needs to be Comfy!

~ Do you tend to shop in store or online for kids' clothes and why? If you shop in store, do you look online at what items you might buy beforehand, or do you tend to go and see what takes your/your DC's fancy?
I used to shop in-store but now spend more and more time online. The sale email arrives and I look at childrens wear immediately Smile

~ Is there anything that you think M&S could do to encourage you to buy their kidswear? Or buy it more often if you already buy it? Is there anything missing from their kidswear ranges that you'd like to see more of? Do you think they cater for certain ages better than others? Or for boys better than girls or vice versa?
Girls do have a better selection than boys - my DS is 10yo and my DD is almost 8yo. I would like to see brighter colours for boys and girls, simple designs for girls dresses and why cant you make clothes that would be either for a boy or a girl - neon/primary coloured tshirts/hoodies/trousers please.

~ Thinking specifically about the M&S baby ranges, what's your overall opinion of these? Do you think there's enough variety? Is there anything you'd like to see more of?
My youngest is almost 8, so it has been a few years since I looked at the baby range. As I recall it was fine, however when did babies stop wearing yellow/mint green other neutral shades and only pink or blue Hmm

UseTheForce · 17/05/2012 22:11

I do buy kidswear from M&S as they are a decent quality of clothing for the price. I also buy from Sainsbury and Next. Combination of them all. Tend to buy instore so the kids can try the clothes on. Also tend to look online first before buying. They always seem to have more clothes and choice for girls, whereas the boys hardly have anything, and the colour range is poor. Baby range is good, but less white and more colour choices.

Tweeter · 17/05/2012 22:20

~ Have you ever bought any M&S Kidswear? What's your overall opinion of it? If you're a regular buyer, what makes you buy? If you're not, is there anything specific that's stopping you? What other brands/shops do you buy kids' clothes from?
Buy for my son in young boys range quite frequently usually find it good quality. Used to buy for my daughters in older girls but not too keen on the styles except for pyjamas which they love from M and S

~ When you're shopping for kids' clothes, what are the most important factors? Is it cost, quality, colour/design, style or brand/label? Or a complicated combination of all of those?!
Combination. Bright colours and designs a must for toddler boys but cost is a factor too. Still find M and S wash well and their quality is better than other high street kids retailers

~ Do you tend to shop in store or online for kids' clothes and why? If you shop in store, do you look online at what items you might buy beforehand, or do you tend to go and see what takes your/your DC's fancy?
Shop both online and instore and usually would check online first before going into store to see what is available. Love the free delivery to stores option.

~ Is there anything that you think M&S could do to encourage you to buy their kidswear? Or buy it more often if you already buy it? Is there anything missing from their kidswear ranges that you'd like to see more of? Do you think they cater for certain ages better than others? Or for boys better than girls or vice versa?
At the moment prefer boys clothes. Often have difficulty getting sizes when inshore. More discounts would encourage me to buy more

~ Thinking specifically about the M&S baby ranges, what's your overall opinion of these? Do you think there's enough variety? Is there anything you'd like to see more of?

Baby ranges are lovely and often liked the sleep suits but again ime often hard to get size when instore

mrsalwaysawake · 17/05/2012 23:05

Not going to answer all the questions, just wanted to comment on the difference between your ranges of clothes for baby boys and girls.
You sell loads of lovely things for baby girls, and, while the boys stuff is nice, it is a bit uninspiring. I wanted to by a nice outfit for my baby son last winter, for a wedding. You didn't have anything appropriate. I complained via your website and was told 'we don't sell party-wear for under-ones' which, given the gorgeous dresses I saw for 3 month-olds was clearly untrue.
Please consider expanding your range of baby boys clothes. I have spoken to lots of mums about this, and we all feel the same.

niniane · 17/05/2012 23:39

Have you ever bought any M&S Kidswear? What's your overall opinion of it? If you're a regular buyer, what makes you buy? If you're not, is there anything specific that's stopping you? What other brands/shops do you buy kids' clothes from?

I buy fairly often. I know it's good quality and usually at a reasonable price. I would like to see more selection, especially instore. I also tend to go to Next, Debenhams, Gap and supermarkets.

When you're shopping for kids' clothes, what are the most important factors? Is it cost, quality, colour/design, style or brand/label? Or a complicated combination of all of those?!

For general day-to-day wear I want something that can go in a 'normal' washing machine wash, be tumble dried and would pair easily with other clothes. Cost is a factor as is knowing that the retailer's sizing is constant and age appropriate. I don't particularly want to be taking a toddler into changing rooms if I'm unsure what size to buy or if something will fit.

Do you tend to shop in store or online for kids' clothes and why? If you shop in store, do you look online at what items you might buy beforehand, or do you tend to go and see what takes your/your DC's fancy?

If I'm looking for something specific then usually online, but if I'm buying as a result of browsing then it's usually instore. My nearest M&S doesn't have the biggest childrens' dept so for M&S then usually online.

Is there anything that you think M&S could do to encourage you to buy their kidswear? Or buy it more often if you already buy it? Is there anything missing from their kidswear ranges that you'd like to see more of? Do you think they cater for certain ages better than others? Or for boys better than girls or vice versa?

I find some of the trousers don't fit well on the waist and some don't seem big enough in the bottom area. It's as though nappy wearing hasn't been taken into account. I'd like to see more basics, both singly and in packs. For example a range of plain long and short sleeved t shirts in different colours. There also seems to have been a increase in clothes with characters on such as Charlie and Lola and Hello Kitty. I think this cheapens clothes and wouldn't buy any (at least until DD is old enough to make me eat my words and buy them!). I'd also like to see more swimming costumes available through the winter. Kids still go swimming then!

I do like the vests and tights and always find the clothes to be good quality and with the exception of some trousers, a good fit. The Indigo range is great for everyday wear and Autograph produce some nice outfits.

~ Thinking specifically about the M&S baby ranges, what's your overall opinion of these? Do you think there's enough variety? Is there anything you'd like to see more of?

I think I found there was too much blue/pink/white. I also remember DD growing out of her M&S sleeping bag and then finding that they had been discontinued so couldn't get a bigger one. Best sleeping bag she ever had and we've been through a few.

JSSB · 18/05/2012 07:20

~ Have you ever bought any M&S Kidswear? Yes What's your overall opinion of it? It is good quality but I think the designs coud be more interesting. If you're a regular buyer, what makes you buy? Quality If you're not, is there anything specific that's stopping you? What other brands/shops do you buy kids' clothes from? John Lewis, Next, Debenhams

~ When you're shopping for kids' clothes, what are the most important factors? Is it cost, quality, colour/design, style or brand/label? Or a complicated combination of all of those?! It is a a combination of cost, quailty and style.

~ Do you tend to shop in store or online for kids' clothes and why? If you shop in store, do you look online at what items you might buy beforehand, or do you tend to go and see what takes your/your DC's fancy? I mainly buy childrens clothes instore as I think you get a better idea of the quality and colour of fabrics. If I buy online it tends to be from stores that I wouldn't be able to visit otherwise as don't have stores nearby such as Mamas & Papas and JoJoMamanBebe.

~ Is there anything that you think M&S could do to encourage you to buy their kidswear? Or buy it more often if you already buy it? Is there anything missing from their kidswear ranges that you'd like to see more of? Do you think they cater for certain ages better than others? Or for boys better than girls or vice versa? I would buy more childrens clothese from M&S if the designs were different. I think that they do bright clothing well for children, however I prefer to dress my daughter in softer colours in more traditional styles. My daughter isn't yet old enough but it looks like the clothes aimed at pre-teens are good and would appeal to that age group.

~ Thinking specifically about the M&S baby ranges, what's your overall opinion of these? Do you think there's enough variety? Is there anything you'd like to see more of? The materials used in the baby ranges are very good. M&S is my preference for basics such as bodysuits as they are reasonably priced but the material is soft and washes really well compared to other brands. When pregnant I found it hard to buy baby clothes from M&S other than basic white separates as baby clothes seemed to be in either pink or blue and I didn't know what sex I was having. I would like to see more neutral unisex clothing. I would also like to see more colours used for boy and girl baby clothing as in my local store everything is either blue or pink

CarpeJugulum · 18/05/2012 08:27

~ Have you ever bought any M&S Kidswear? What's your overall opinion of it? If you're a regular buyer, what makes you buy? If you're not, is there anything specific that's stopping you? What other brands/shops do you buy kids' clothes from?

Yes, occasional pieces/packs. The quality is good, but the price is quite expensive. For example, a pack of 7 sleeveless bodysuits starts at £7 (more expensive for bigger sizes) so cost is £1 each, but ASDA do them for £2.75 for 3 - only a few pennies cheaper but the quality is about the same and pennies make a difference. I buy clothes from just about everywhere.

~ When you're shopping for kids' clothes, what are the most important factors? Is it cost, quality, colour/design, style or brand/label? Or a complicated combination of all of those?!
Definitely cost and durability as the most important factors. As my son is 19 months, he's into everything and often ends up grubby and covered in paint/glue/food. Clothes therefore have to wash well, or be cheap enough that if he rips it/ruins it, then it's not a huge deal.

~ Do you tend to shop in store or online for kids' clothes and why? If you shop in store, do you look online at what items you might buy beforehand, or do you tend to go and see what takes your/your DC's fancy?
I tend to shop in store, and usually in the supermarket as my son isn't old enough to go clothes shopping, or have much of a say in what he wears. Would consider online shopping, but quite often sizes vary (for example 12-18month sizing in one store may be the same size as 18-24 in another), so not really an option when kids sizes are by age rather than length/width etc.

~ Is there anything that you think M&S could do to encourage you to buy their kidswear? Or buy it more often if you already buy it? Is there anything missing from their kidswear ranges that you'd like to see more of? Do you think they cater for certain ages better than others? Or for boys better than girls or vice versa?
Make kidswear more accessible in store. At the moment, in our "local" M&S, the kids wear is on the top floor, away from the lift and is a bit of a nightmare to get to with a buggy. The aisles aren't wide enough for a buggy to go through some of the time, so you often end up trapped and have to reverse rather than being able to walk round. Puts me off going.

~ Thinking specifically about the M&S baby ranges, what's your overall opinion of these? Do you think there's enough variety? Is there anything you'd like to see more of?
M&S wouldn't be my first stop for baby clothing - while there is quite a lot of choice online, my local store has a very poor selection (or more charitably, it runs out of stock a lot) and as stated before, sizes vary so I would not be comfortable shopping online. I'd like to see more basics in the stores - so plenty of plain t-shirts, body suits and pyjamas. Again, I can only speak for my local store, but it seems to have lots of decal-ed t-shirts which are not great in the tumble drier and very often are more expensive than supermarket options. Nice plain basics at reasonable prices would be fantastic - there is definitely a vacancy there as Mothercare seem to have lost the plot!

mashyup · 18/05/2012 09:45

Have you ever bought any M&S Kidswear? What's your overall opinion of it? If you're a regular buyer, what makes you buy? If you're not, is there anything specific that's stopping you? What other brands/shops do you buy kids' clothes from? *I am a fairly regular buyer of M&S Kidswear. Overall opinion is it's reliable and sometimes they have lovely/different stuff in for my 2 older boys. I always get school trousers from M&S as size and quality is good, also socks and underwear as it will last.
I might buy more if range was bigger. I also buy from Next catalogue, especially when in a hurry, also impulsively from supermarkets (tesco/sainsburys), H and M, occasional Boden when can afford it. I have recently bought school shoes online from M&S instead of Clarks, and was quite pleased with result.
When you're shopping for kids' clothes, what are the most important factors? Is it cost, quality, colour/design, style or brand/label? Or a complicated combination of all of those?!
Cost, then quality, then colour/design. Not brand or label, and don't like labels/logos that show.
Do you tend to shop in store or online for kids' clothes and why? If you shop in store, do you look online at what items you might buy beforehand, or do you tend to go and see what takes your/your DC's fancy?
Online so I can show kids first, or they might refuse to wear it, and they don't like going clothes shopping. Occasionally will take them to shops to see what they like/size it
Is there anything that you think M&S could do to encourage you to buy their kidswear? Or buy it more often if you already buy it? Is there anything missing from their kidswear ranges that you'd like to see more of? Do you think they cater for certain ages better than others? Or for boys better than girls or vice versa?

Main competitor for me is Next, not beacuse I particularly like their clothes but because I can order something needed quickly, like new trainers, or a specifically coloured t shirt for a school event that my kids only mention is neededthe night before, and it will come the next day. Impulse buying.
Other wise, more range of boys stuff, older boys, school wear in stock at all times, offers on clothes. But I have had some lovely boys clothes from M&S, especially fleeces etc. I might do more online now I have bought shoes

Thinking specifically about the M&S baby ranges, what's your overall opinion of these? Do you think there's enough variety? Is there anything you'd like to see more of?
I haven't had to buy baby clothes for a long time, so can't comment

BoffinMum · 18/05/2012 10:03

~ Have you ever bought any M&S Kidswear? What's your overall opinion of it? If you're a regular buyer, what makes you buy? If you're not, is there anything specific that's stopping you? What other brands/shops do you buy kids' clothes from?

I am a frequent buyer, and I buy classic boys' clothes, both leisure and formal. I do not buy anything that is faded, has rips, has logos or those crease things in at the top of the thighs, as my boys prefer looking smart, and I like them that way.

~ When you're shopping for kids' clothes, what are the most important factors? Is it cost, quality, colour/design, style or brand/label? Or a complicated combination of all of those?!

Cost, but not super cheap, I want value for money. I will not pay extra for brands and fancy labels or gimmicks. I want classic clothes that can be handed down, with a bit of a smart European or tailored look, like Mini Mayoral style clothes. Stuff that doesn't date. Stuff that washes beautifully and needs little ironing. Stuff that can go in the tumble dryer. Good quality cotton and light wool. I also buy serious walking kit for the boys, and outdoor clothes so they can get muddy whilst being very Famous Five, but M and S doesn't often have things like that in stock. Occasionally I buy ski wear but again you don't stock much, and your season is not long enough.

~ Do you tend to shop in store or online for kids' clothes and why? If you shop in store, do you look online at what items you might buy beforehand, or do you tend to go and see what takes your/your DC's fancy?

Online, sometimes in store but your stock control has been abysmal for my entire lifetime and I can't see things ever improving. My boys get shown clothes by me and then they choose from what fits them and things that they would be happy to wear.

~ Is there anything that you think M&S could do to encourage you to buy their kidswear? Or buy it more often if you already buy it? Is there anything missing from their kidswear ranges that you'd like to see more of? Do you think they cater for certain ages better than others? Or for boys better than girls or vice versa?

Better changing rooms, specially for kids and teens with a parent in tow, small play facility for younger siblings while they are waiting, and assistants who don't assume you are a shoplifter (eight items per cubicle is nothing when you are kitting out three rapidly growing kids, and I don't expect to have things counted in and back when I am spending £200+). I also think most of the assistants look like they are sucking wasps and are terribly menopausal and grumpy. I would like friendly people serving me (it's so bad in most stores I get my husband to deal with them as they tend to be polite to him and grumpy with me as a fellow woman - big mistake as I am the one holding the procurement purse strings). I also will not stand in a long queue to pay, so I will leave the pile of clothes and flounce off if I get stressed waiting with a toddler in tow. I would also appreciate a loyalty card.

In terms of what's missing, I think you need to hold more stock and sizes, have pretty toddler style outfits available for boys and girls until they are 5 or 6 so they don't have to grow up too early (eg pastel colours, sweet little outfits) and stock seasonal wear, outdoor wear and beach/holiday wear all year round (at least in small quantities) as this could be a real niche selling point - people do want slippers in May and wellies in August, but you can never find them anywhere. M and S could be marketed as a one stop shop for harrassed parents seeking to find well priced clothes at all times of year and for all occasions.

~ Thinking specifically about the M&S baby ranges, what's your overall opinion of these? Do you think there's enough variety? Is there anything you'd like to see more of?

I always had trouble finding the right sizes - there would be 10 x 3-6 months on the rack but no 12 months, for example. I hate hassle and not finding the size means hunting down a miserable assistant and begging for help, then standing there in the middle of the shop floor for 10 minutes wondering if they are ever going to come back. When they do, they usually tell you there are no other sizes. It's puts me off shopping at M and S. Online the people know little about children's clothes and refunds and problems take forever to sort out, it all feels very remote and foreign call-centrey.

BoffinMum · 18/05/2012 10:07

Ps I agree Next has nicer clothes and assistants, more sizes out, is less fraught to shop in, and has been getting our custom over the last couple of seasons.

Quenelle · 18/05/2012 10:29

~ Have you ever bought any M&S Kidswear? What's your overall opinion of it? If you're a regular buyer, what makes you buy? If you're not, is there anything specific that's stopping you? What other brands/shops do you buy kids' clothes from?

Yes.

Overall I think there isn't much choice, and the quality has been questionable.

When DS was about 4 months old I bought him a gorgeous knitted all in one but the button holes around the legs were too big and it just flapped undone all the time. I bought a similar one from Asda for less than half the price and it was brilliant.

And most stuff has characters and writing on. Perhaps you could charge less if you weren't paying to license Thomas the Tank Engine?

~ When you're shopping for kids' clothes, what are the most important factors? Is it cost, quality, colour/design, style or brand/label? Or a complicated combination of all of those?!

Combination of cost, quality, colour (get bored of blue, blue, blue), style. Brand/label is of no consequence.

~ Do you tend to shop in store or online for kids' clothes and why? If you shop in store, do you look online at what items you might buy beforehand, or do you tend to go and see what takes your/your DC's fancy?

I often look online first because I look at what's available in all the children's shops. There are often discount codes too.

~ Is there anything that you think M&S could do to encourage you to buy their kidswear? Or buy it more often if you already buy it? Is there anything missing from their kidswear ranges that you'd like to see more of? Do you think they cater for certain ages better than others? Or for boys better than girls or vice versa?

Have a bigger range. I would like to see more classic designs like jumpers and sweatshirts without hoods, dungarees (without pictures/writing on). Am having trouble finding plain denim dungaree shorts at the moment. An H&M pair on ebay this week started a major bidding war. They are a popular design.

~ Thinking specifically about the M&S baby ranges, what's your overall opinion of these? Do you think there's enough variety? Is there anything you'd like to see more of?

More bold colours and designs. I don't look at the girls' stuff in detail but overall it always looks like a sea of pink to me. The baby boys' stuff often looks like a sea of pale blue too though.

Quenelle · 18/05/2012 10:37

Oh yes, other shops I buy from: Next (some nice styles and the only shop selling children's clothes on our High Street), H&M (usually online, favourite for style, size of range and price but quality can a bit rubbish) and Asda (some good quality, cheap basic stuff).

Quenelle · 18/05/2012 10:58

I made a point of giving my answers before reading the other posts but I have to add my voice to the posters who dislike the camo, monster, skulls, naughty boy stuff.

And also about adjsutable waistbands. DS is tall and not disproportionately thin, even so trousers are often too short for him by the time they fit his waist.

exexpat · 18/05/2012 11:19

I'm an occasional buyer. I was reasonably happy with M&S clothes when buying for DS, but he is now 13 and has been in adult sizes for a couple of years. He won't go near M&S any more - it's all Topman jeans and band t-shirts these days.

I'm much less happy now when I am looking for clothes for DD, 9. She's also big and tall for her age, so wearing around age 12/13 at the moment.

I often pass through the girls' section of my main local M&S (it is just by the entrance from the car park) but very rarely buy anything these days. The clothes are too fussy (logos, slogans, cartoons, patterns, sequins, applique...), too fashion-oriented, and very impractical for an active girl - thin material that will rip at the knees the first time she falls over, fussy bits that will snag if she tries climbing a tree...

Also all the jeans/leggings seem to be skinny-fit at the moment - what about children who don't want skin-tight jeans?

DD also hates pink (and no, this is not unusual for a 9yo girl - lots of girls hate pink), and there is way too much pink stuff. We were recently looking for a new dressing gown for her, to replace a much-loved M&S turquoise fluffy dressing gown she had had for a couple of years, but every single girls' dressing gown was pink or had a pattern with pink in it. We ended up getting one from the women's section.

I don't think I have bought anything for her from M&S girls' section for a couple of years, apart from some socks, tights, underwear and pyjamas. I have bought some jeans for her from the boys' section, as they are not skin-tight cuts and actually give her some room to move.

I find it hard buying stuff DD likes, that fits well and that is practical pretty much anywhere, but I think she has more clothes from Uniqlo and Gap than anywhere else. She also has lots of boys' clothes, some passed down from her brother, and some that she has chosen herself (H&M etc).

Basically, if there were plainer, brighter, more practical children's clothes, rather than scaled-down versions of women's wear, I might be more likely to buy.

klaxon · 18/05/2012 11:42

Oh and can I add I was in store just yesterday, I looked at the childrens clothes and there was NOT ONE item of clothing in stock in my daughters size 6-7 nor my sons 3-4. Surely to goodness this cannot be the norm? Hmm

FWIW I did get a nice suit thank you very much and look forward to coming in next week for the bubbly and snacks for the jubilee!

maybeyoushoulddrive · 18/05/2012 11:48

Have you ever bought any M&S Kidswear? What's your overall opinion of it? If you're a regular buyer, what makes you buy? If you're not, is there anything specific that's stopping you? What other brands/shops do you buy kids' clothes from?
I rarely buy dd(8) clothes from M & S as they do not appeal to her. She walks through the baby section saying how pretty everything is and why can't she have pretty clothes?? The older children's clothes are trying too hard to be 'cool' - she just wants practical, pretty colours and designs. Not pink BTW! We buy from Gap, Sainsburys, Debenhams

When you're shopping for kids' clothes, what are the most important factors? Is it cost, quality, colour/design, style or brand/label? Or a complicated combination of all of those?!

Cost, comfort, usefulness, fun colours

Do you tend to shop in store or online for kids' clothes and why? If you shop in store, do you look online at what items you might buy beforehand, or do you tend to go and see what takes your/your DC's fancy?

Mainly in store, occasionally dd will look online with me

Is there anything that you think M&S could do to encourage you to buy their kidswear? Or buy it more often if you already buy it? Is there anything missing from their kidswear ranges that you'd like to see more of? Do you think they cater for certain ages better than others? Or for boys better than girls or vice versa?

I think the ages are wrong. Your 'older' childrens ranges do not appeal at all. I'd like more practical everyday clothes at cheaper prices.

Thinking specifically about the M&S baby ranges, what's your overall opinion of these? Do you think there's enough variety? Is there anything you'd like to see more of?

attachmentmummy · 18/05/2012 13:22

~ Have you ever bought any M&S Kidswear? What's your overall opinion of it? If you're a regular buyer, what makes you buy? If you're not, is there anything specific that's stopping you? What other brands/shops do you buy kids' clothes from?

We buy M&S childrens and babies clothes regularly because they are good quality, hardwearing, and nice designs. We also buy at Next, Boden, Pumpkin Patch, Mothercare, Tu, and smaller niche brands.

~ When you're shopping for kids' clothes, what are the most important factors? Is it cost, quality, colour/design, style or brand/label? Or a complicated combination of all of those?!

It's a combination of all of those, but being easily washable and hardwearing is the most important for everyday clothes that are going to get put through the wringer by a very active toddler.

~ Do you tend to shop in store or online for kids' clothes and why? If you shop in store, do you look online at what items you might buy beforehand, or do you tend to go and see what takes your/your DC's fancy?

For M&S clothes, in-store mostly, because I like to see what I'm buying and check the sizing (which can be hit and miss I find), but if something is out of stock I might then order it online. For other retailers, where I can be sure of sizing and quality, I am happy to buy online, which is conveneient and easy. Having said that, I find shopping at most M&S stores for childrens clothes is straightforward because the layout is designed well for buggy manouevre-ability. My daughter is just 2 and beginning to choose her own clothes when we're out sometimes, which is fun. She picked up a cute floral sundress and Hello Kitty sunhat in M&S Chichester the other day and demanded that we 'pay it'!

~ Is there anything that you think M&S could do to encourage you to buy their kidswear? Or buy it more often if you already buy it? Is there anything missing from their kidswear ranges that you'd like to see more of? Do you think they cater for certain ages better than others? Or for boys better than girls or vice versa?

Sort the sizing out, jeans especially seem to be a size bigger than labelled often; put Mr Men on girls' clothes as well as boys; have better stock availability in store, and don't discontinue stock lines so quickly; get rid of the dubious princess/naughty/good/bad/trouble etc etc slogans - I don't want to label my child!; offer more hardwearing trouser/legging outfits for toddler girls - there tend to be rather too many pretty dresses - girls spend most of their time scrabbling in mud too you know!; get rid of the trendy/sexy older girl styles before we reach the age where we won't be shopping in M&S any more because of them. Apart from that keep up the good work! Wink

~ Thinking specifically about the M&S baby ranges, what's your overall opinion of these? Do you think there's enough variety? Is there anything you'd like to see more of?

A bit more variety would be good, here the stock lines don't tend to get rotated often enough, and something a bit more interesting than pink/blue babygros would be great! Again, maybe top/legging combos in brighter colours/patterns, or character oens - there isn't enough of that sort of thing. The vest and sleepsuit packs are brilliant basics though and last and last, thank you!

AmberNectarine · 18/05/2012 13:27
  1. Never bought any but have been given some as gifts for my baby DD. Was good quality but I found the designs weren't to my taste (too girly and twee). Generally buy from Boden, John Lewis, Gap, Jo Jo Maman Bebe, Next and H&M.
  1. Quality and style are most important. Cost not generally an issue, but I do buy cheaper bits from Next and H&M for DS to trash at nursery.
  1. Mostly in store, though as my children wear a lot of Boden I do that online. Tend to just pick up what takes my fancy.
  1. Less pink in the girls range, this is a real problem for me, would love more choice for my DD.
  1. Not a huge fan of the baby ranges as I prefer my babies not to wear pastels, and from what I've seen (and been given as gifts) the M&S baby range is overly reliant on these.
gilliancd · 18/05/2012 15:44

I used to buy quite a lot of things from Marks and Spencer when my first daughter was a baby/ young toddler but when she was about two and a half I went in to look for some summer clothes and was really put off! I couldn't find a single t-shirt, none of the tops had sleeves, all straps. I found the whole range more suited to a holiday in greece than an afternoon at nursery.
After this experience I started buying most of my kids clothes at Asda, the prices are better and things are so much more practical!

modernbear · 18/05/2012 18:09

Have you ever bought any M&S Kidswear? Yes What's your overall opinion of it? Good quality, washes well, often has appropriate childrens clothing in the younger range but can be a bit 'grown up in the older range
If you're a regular buyer, what makes you buy? Good value for money. Their clothes wash well. I love their knitted cotton jumpers ? we call them ?cuddle jumpers? for obvious reasons.

If you're not, is there anything specific that's stopping you? What other brands/shops do you buy kids' clothes from? Boden, House of Fraser, John Lewis, TKMaxx

When you're shopping for kids' clothes, what are the most important factors? Is it cost, quality, colour/design, style or brand/label? Or a complicated combination of all of those?!
The most important factor is that they fit my 2 year old son who is very tall for his age, yet rather narrow and slim on the waist. An awful lot of trousers just fall down even if there is a drawn string/ elastic/tags to make the waist smaller. Thereafter the quality of the clothes is important and what fabric they are made of.

Is there anything that you think M&S could do to encourage you to buy their kidswear? Or buy it more often if you already buy it? Is there anything missing from their kidswear ranges that you'd like to see more of? Do you think they cater for certain ages better than others? Or for boys better than girls or vice versa?
A more consistent sizing throughout this particular department. We found their Autograph pjs to be over a size smaller than their normal pjs.

Do you tend to shop in store or online for kids' clothes and why? If you shop in store, do you look online at what items you might buy beforehand, or do you tend to go and see what takes your/your DC's fancy?
In the past I have needed to go online because there is not the stock in the Glasgow stores. For example I was unable to get a 3-4 year old white, long sleeved vest in any city centre store earlier in the year. I would have considered this an essential item.

Thinking specifically about the M&S baby ranges, what's your overall opinion of these? Do you think there's enough variety? Is there anything you'd like to see more of?
The baby ranges overall are good. Really appreciated the range when my son was younger.

zipzap · 18/05/2012 18:25

~ Have you ever bought any M&S Kidswear? What's your overall opinion of it? If you're a regular buyer, what makes you buy? If you're not, is there anything specific that's stopping you? What other brands/shops do you buy kids' clothes from?
I have - but not as much as I thought I would if that makes sense (I get quite a few of my own clothes from M&S, had lots of M&S stuff when I was a kid, assumed I would get stuff for my kids from there too)
part of the problem is that I have boys - and there's usually only a fairly small selection of boys clothes in comparison with the girls selection. OK so most shops are like this - but it still means that I have less choice when actually in store. And it rankles - boys still need as many clothes as girls, and if it rains then they need a raincoat/mac/kagoule as much as girls do (or coats when it is cold) and yet there is usually very little selection, whereas the girls have lots of different styles and colours, so if one is the wrong shape or colour you have a chance to find something that works for them - whereas for boys - there is a much reduced choice and so much less chance of finding stuff that is right.

Another problem is the bad cut of M&S kids clothes - particularly the cardigans I've had in the past - they all seem to be very short bodied and long armed. WHich means they just look wrong - either the arms fit and the body looks much too short (and for when they are young it's a pain as they then get cold around the middle, plus their tshirt tends to be showing beneath it so it just looks messy or again contributes to the grown out of look) or if the body is right the arms are much too long and difficult to roll up easily.

I've also had problems with tshirts that have things printed on the front - which seems to be most of them these days. Some wash fine and a year or two down the line still look as good as new, which is great and what I expect from an M&S tshirt. Others unfortunately start to crack, peel off and wear badly after the first wash and very soon start to look very scruffy. There's just no way to predict which will wear well (and I would pay a tenner for) and which wear really badly and are worse than something I've paid £3 for in Asda or Sainsburys.

Yet another problem is availability - for some reason there must be lots of people who have kids my size that decide to go shopping for the stuff I want the day before I do as there always seem to be hundreds of things in other sizes and nothing in the sizes I want. Take yesterday - I was in my local M&S (large branch in Milton Keynes shopping centre) and thought I ought to get some underwear for the boys. No pants for one of them (age 4), other one age 7 there were very few options, several different things I would have bought but nothing in his size. Likewise socks, I was incredibly limited in the choice I had in my size - even though there seemed to be a whole rack of lots of different things - only 3 or 4 sets of socks in total for the ages I wanted. other ages had rows and rows. ds2 wore his new socks today - he saw them, loved them, which was great so I opened them and put them on. Except they fit him just right, now. Socks always seem to shrink in the wash so soon I expect they will be tight. But - these were age 3-6 socks and he is just 4 (and 2nd percentile for his age so tiny and with small feet for his age) - there is no way they would have fitted his brother aged 4 with small-normal sized feet for his age. And these are supposed to last him until age 6! looking at the next size up which I got for his brother - they are definitely too big, but these ones measure up next to his other socks as being exactly the same size - and they are a) washed and b) a size smaller. And because they are all held together with a taggy thing I broke it to take the socks out and he's worn a pair now so too late to take back. Should I have checked before breaking the tag - yes in hindsight. But given they were for ages 3-6 and ds2 is the size of a standard 2 year old, it didn't occur to me that it would be necessary in the way that I would say if I had a regular sized 4 or 5 year old, I was more worried they would be too big and once he'd seen them he would want to wear them and he'd have to wait to grow into them.

Shops that I do get boys clothes from tend to be sainsburys or asda for cheap stuff to ruin hammer at nursery or playing out in the garden. Nicer stuff comes from the more expensive stuff at sainsburys, asda, tkmaxx, next, John lewis, gap, debenhams or M&S. Tend to get it in person or sometimes order to pick up in store, haven't really got into shopping for them online on a regular basis. Tends to be more that we are in the supermarket and see something so pick it up there and then. maybe when they are older and less agreeable to shopping with me it might change!

~ When you're shopping for kids' clothes, what are the most important factors? Is it cost, quality, colour/design, style or brand/label? Or a complicated combination of all of those?!

Not so bothered by actual brand or label, as I avoid any clothes that are obviously branded.

Style is important - I tend to like plainer styles so hate all the boys trousers that have extra seams and bits and bobs on for no good reason. ds then complains about the extra seams rubbing or that he can't run around in them as easily, you play for all the extra work that has gone into making them, they look stupid, are an extra fiddle to iron, bad news all round. It's become increasingly difficult to find simple nice plain jeans or plain trousers or even plain cargo trousers, all the trousers seem like they have had a stylist go mad on them. Just seems like you are trying too hard to do something to them to make them different - and forgetting about the wearable basics.

Colour tends to come into the style side of things - my dsis has more problems than me as her eldest dd is a real tomboy and therefore has real problems when everything is pink or flowery or girly. There are no simple crossover basics which could work really well in the summer - plain tshirts and shorts in primary colours or simple stripes or spots or checks that would work for boys or girls. and with a 7 yr old, I'm discovering it's not so much about the colour (although it would be nice to have boys coats in colours other than black and navy) but the designs - the older boys range in aiming to be cool for the older half tends to mean that there isn't anything very suitable for the younger ones (having said that, yesterday I was pleased to see that there were fewer 'nasty' designs than there usually are and a few more feel good/cartoony things that I wouldn't mind my 7 yr old wearing. There's always too many polo shirts and too much emphasis on football stuff - whether it's team logos or just football logos everywhere - arrrggghh. get rid of them!

cost and quality are important too - need to strike a good balance.

~ Do you tend to shop in store or online for kids' clothes and why? If you shop in store, do you look online at what items you might buy beforehand, or do you tend to go and see what takes your/your DC's fancy?
Have done both - prefer to look instore but if I am doing an online order for me then I'll have a look to see if there is anything good. I'll also order if there is something specific I am looking for or if I have seen something nice in store but not the right size. However, I am lucky in that I am only 5 minutes away from my local store and often passing by so it's easy to pop in. If I lived further away (eg where my mum lives, where I grew up - 30 mins drive away) then it could well be very different as you don't just pop in on a regular basis - you tend to go out for a day's shopping. In which case I would order online a lot more.

~ Is there anything that you think M&S could do to encourage you to buy their kidswear? Or buy it more often if you already buy it? Is there anything missing from their kidswear ranges that you'd like to see more of? Do you think they cater for certain ages better than others? Or for boys better than girls or vice versa?

more nice basics (don't necessarily have to be a cheap basic/value range, but well cut, nice fabric ordinary trousers/jeans/chinos that haven't been messed around.

Girls are definitely catered for much better than boys. Boys aged 6-10 particularly badly catered for as the stuff seems to be aimed at older kids.

More space for pushing prams around kids clothes departments - if you are shopping for baby clothes or younger kids clothes there is a reasonable chance you will have a pram with you and yet it can be a real pain to get in there sometimes, which is enough to put me off from even looking - and if I don't look then I am definitely not going to buy.

just remembered something else - school uniform polo shirts. DS has to wear white short sleeved polo shirts. He has a big head for his age and the necks are not big enough - I need to get 2 sizes bigger for him to get a big enough neckline and then the rest of the shirt is much too big for him. I bought M&S ones originally but it got to be too much of a hassle so have now tried several and ended up with some from matalan that are the best of the bunch when it comes to big necklines. This is a common problem amongst lots of his friends - if you had necklines that were a buttonhole longer (ie could cope with heads several inches bigger than currently per size) I would definitely switch back and lots of others would as well I am sure.

~ Thinking specifically about the M&S baby ranges, what's your overall opinion of these? Do you think there's enough variety? Is there anything you'd like to see more of?
More stuff with less/no white or very pale colours in - especially for the weaning ages! Pale stuff just ends up stained. Or maybe need some teflon coated tshirt fronts to help with that!

Haven't really looked at baby stuff at M&S recently, other than getting presents for friends. Has been OK but I'm always amazed by the amount of unpractical pale or white stuff!

TheLightPassenger · 18/05/2012 18:38

Have you ever bought any M&S Kidswear? What's your overall opinion of it? If you're a regular buyer, what makes you buy? If you're not, is there anything specific that's stopping you? What other brands/shops do you buy kids' clothes from?

Yes I buy boys' items each season. The range is reasonably good for classic items - chinos, stripey t-shirts etc, and price wise the cheaper clothes are not much dearer than supermarket clothes.

~ When you're shopping for kids' clothes, what are the most important factors? Is it cost, quality, colour/design, style or brand/label? Or a complicated combination of all of those?!

Cost and colour/design are very important.

~ Do you tend to shop in store or online for kids' clothes and why? If you shop in store, do you look online at what items you might buy beforehand, or do you tend to go and see what takes your/your DC's fancy?

I shop instore, I work so don't like being out for items being delivered!

~ Is there anything that you think M&S could do to encourage you to buy their kidswear? Or buy it more often if you already buy it? Is there anything missing from their kidswear ranges that you'd like to see more of? Do you think they cater for certain ages better than others? Or for boys better than girls or vice versa?

Possibly a 3 for 2 type offer for limited period or 20% off for limited period.

Thinking specifically about the M&S baby ranges, what's your overall opinion of these? Do you think there's enough variety? Is there anything you'd like to see more of?

Haven't bought baby clothes for several years, so no real opinion.

LillianGish · 18/05/2012 20:36

Just had to come back to this thread after reading a comment that M and S don't often have sales. I couldn't disagree more - they seem to have sales every six weeks or so - in fact one of things I love is that you can often pick up a bargain.