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What happens at annual review? Who goes? What's it for etc etc.?

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StarOfValkyrie · 23/06/2010 11:58

We have our first annual review next week and I know nothing about what the purpose is or likely outcome.

Can anyone advise?

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TheTimeTravellersWife · 23/06/2010 22:07

Sorry, can't answer your question, but have one of my own. Can the LEA do an annual review if you have lodged an appeal against the Statement?

StarOfValkyrie · 23/06/2010 22:28

I know the answer to that and it is YES! lol. They want to hold mine two weeks before the tribunal

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Sidge · 23/06/2010 22:29

We've only had one annual review (second one in 2 weeks!) and there was me, Senco, class teacher and DD2s 1-1.

All the professionals involved were invited but none came, just gave their reports (which is always the case apparently).

It involved going through her original statement and identifying if her needs are being met, and if there are any new needs that need meeting. I gave my opinion and then everyone else their gave theirs, and we agreed on a plan of action for the following year.

lou031205 · 23/06/2010 22:43

Ace's Guide to Understanding Annual Reviews

Lougle xx

TheFallenMadonna · 23/06/2010 22:53

I used to organise annual reviews in secondary schools. We invited all the professionals. Usually they do just send reports, but did attend some of the reviews; usually where a change in provision was required. EdPsych time is very limited though. Mixed blessing? Hmm. We also gathered reports from all members of staff. We would go through these, hear the parents' opinion on how they saw things, review the targets from the previous review, assess against statement, decide on the adequacy of the provision and set new targets.

StarOfValkyrie · 23/06/2010 23:24

LOL, thanks lougle
and TFM.

Thing is, the dates they have given us, all occur in the next week and a half and I know for a fact that the SLT knows nothing about it, - so how are they all going to get their reports in?

I think they just made it up and never really intended one to happen.

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StarOfValkyrie · 23/06/2010 23:24

Why is the EP time so limited?

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sugarcandymountain · 23/06/2010 23:27

There's a whole chapter in the SEN COP, Star. Mine wasn't carried out in anything like the way it was supposed to, but it's worth knowing how things are supposed to be done.

Eg you should get copies of any reports 2 weeks before the AR, but that's guidance not law and it often just gets passed around on the day.

TheFallenMadonna · 23/06/2010 23:29

Hmm. Don't know. We organised dates right at the beginning of the year, so everyone had plenty of notice. However, we were a big outfit. 50-odd children with statements, and of course the same number of annual reviews. We couldn't have done them as and when. Probably different in primary. They should have copies of the letters they sent out...

StarOfValkyrie · 23/06/2010 23:33

oh goodness sugar I've not looked at that for AGES. I suppose I really should do, tribunal and all .

What reports am I likely to get though? He doesn't go to school any more. The SLT does home visits but that's it.

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TheFallenMadonna · 23/06/2010 23:36

Is he still on roll at the school?

I would expect a report from any professional who had had input, plus the EdPsych. Who normally said he hadn't seen the student that year and C&P some stuff from the statement

StarOfValkyrie · 23/06/2010 23:39

Probably still on role. I expect they like to keep the funding (early years).

I kind of think the school should be there though. After all there was a 'reason' we pulled him out and they should be answerable. Our EP has disappeared.

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TheFallenMadonna · 23/06/2010 23:41

Disappeared from the LA, or just from your lives, because you might have to get used to that...

If he is on roll and not attending, how is it being dealt with? Not truancy? Are the school doing the review?

LowLevelWhinging · 23/06/2010 23:45

I used to be a reviewing officer, for adults, not children but the principle is the same.

At the most basic level, it should be all the people (family/professionals/staff) who know the focus person the best. So the invitees will be different for each service user. The way the meeting is conducted should reflect how much the focus person understands and be done in a way that they are comfortable with.

Also, the format will be different for each person/LA. Some will be better at it, and better organised than others, but the point is to find out if the care plan is meeting the specified needs and if those needs have changed. It's a fairly recent government requirement to meet performance indicators: "Care plans reviewed annually - tick"

At the meetings I used to attend, everyone used to take turns to give their perspectives and the chair would minute it. Any changes and the care plan would be amended (with negotiation with funders).

StarOfValkyrie · 24/06/2010 00:09

TFM Both. I don't think he works for the LA any more and we definately never see him, nor do we have a replacement.

Lack of school attending has not been dealt with at all. It is being held up at tribunal about how irresponsible we are, and triggered a SS report where they simply recommended we put him back in to meet his 5 outcomes.

We took him out after we had quite a bit of evidence of neglect of his basic needs. i.e. keeping him in a soiled nappy for 6 hours and ignoring him sitting under the table spinning for the whole time he is there without anyone trying to engage with him.

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StarOfValkyrie · 24/06/2010 00:12

Low Thanks. That makes sense. I think they just see it as a tick box process because their wording in the communication is a little odd. It is like we have been invited to attend an administration workshop, rather than a serious review of his needs.

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roundthebend4 · 24/06/2010 06:38

Ds had one we had salt there speaclist teacher , Armco who was also the head ,class teacher ,lsa and head if Lea there

Offfically senco chaired but lol I took it over I used ut to make sure they reopened ds statement lucky for me I had independant reports plus knew salt would back me for changes

They did we then moved but new lea based statement on that review plus on my independant reports

annual review is a good time to get statement reopened and to be able to appeal to srndist

sugarcandymountain · 24/06/2010 11:02

Most LAs know that though roundthebend, so they avoid changing the statement at ARs if they possibly can. My friend's statement was never reopened from the time she got one (DC aged 5) until he went to secondary.

All the AR stuff gets added to the statement so it's useful to build up a chronology.

StarOfValkyrie · 24/06/2010 13:43

LOL, I know there isn't a hope in the world of getting ds' statement opened once set. Tis likely it will still say 'is in nappies' when he is 19!

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flyingmum · 24/06/2010 17:29

Hi

I have two hats on so a mum of a SEN kid but also someone who is a teacher of SEN so writes and organises ARs. I'm in a big secondary school and my ARs are very different to my son's (in private SEN school). Essentially it is a bit of a box ticking exercise and frankley the admin is necessary. The aim is to review the statement and to ensure that the needs are still the same and for the school to review how those needs are met and to set targets and ask for provision for the future. Sometimes the parents chose not to attend or forget to attend as happened this week.

EPs are a very very rare beast. They have very limited time and a very short availability. Therefore they will only briefly see students unless there is a spefic matter that needs to be addressed. I think they are more proactive in primary - certainly my son's EPs were when he was at primary. Again trying to coordinate SALT and other professionals in and get their reports in time can be tricky. It all needs very careful planning and forward thinking. We set our AR dates a year in advance - although they obviously do move around a little bit but that means we can book the SALT early on. Often SALTS are only part time and usually have a huge massive case load.

Any way all forms that the LEAs require to be sent in as a report of the meeting are different. I tend to go through the first bit of the statement to check its all the same, then look at what the child has written, then look at general progress - You should be sent a report 2 weeks before the date - without re reading the report, and then go through the target for the coming year taking into acocunt what the parents think. Then we fill in the LEA form and make sure we put into SEN speak (like you do for a tribunal) why we need stuff like extra hours and a greater level of support.
Because The last two I have had have been just me and either one or both parent. The students usually don't want to come but should really once they are in year 8 onwards for at least part of the meeting. I'm not sure how many statemented children your child's school has. It may be that they are really experienced or it may be that the SENCO doesn't do that many.

Your statement might not change in all honesty until year 6 transition (although forgive me I haven't read all the thread). My son's had some daft stuff on it that wasn't relevant by year 6. LEAs very rarely will make changes unless it impacts the level or type of provision in some way. I managed to get one changed last year for a year 7 child who had changed significantly and they did do it which is very rare apparantly. ARs are a HUGE amount of work for the SEN staff and require a great deal of coordination and planning. My colleague and I were wondering the other day if anyone at the LEA ever reads all these reports etc we send and we think probablly not unless we are begging for more money. I wouldn't get too wound up about daft things being on the statement that aren't relevant - as long as the right amount of support is in place and your child is making progress under the right amount of provision I would just go with the flow on that. Only kick off if they are clearly not doing something that needs to be done and remember that the teachers' hands are just as tied by the LEAs budgets as yours are. I would love to have proper SALT provision for all the kids I teach. It's not going to happen unless the parents go down the tribunal route and even then they might not get it. I can ask, and I have and have managed to get a very small amount of provision for one child but there isn't the service within the SALT provision for any more. Instead I do the best I can and try to support their S&L needs to the best of my ability (which is pretty good but not the same as one to one like my son gets).

I think the key thing to remember is for any successful education the parents and the school need to work together so make sure you write your parent comment sheet and get that sent back and word anything very carefully if you are having to ask for more hours or changes in provision. However, I think I, and my colleauge, are very supportive of parents' wishes and view points and I do get the impression that that is not always the case in other educational establishments. I am quite horrified by how some of the pupils and their mothers have been treated at primary level. I was lucky (thankfully) but some of our parents weren't and some shocking stuff has happened which has had lasting damage.

Militantendancy · 24/06/2010 21:13

I have been told by a senior SEN Officer for Hertfordshire that they will be "re-writing all Statements at the annual review to comply with the recommendations of the Lamb Inquiry"

In other words, each year they will try to reduce the amount of support in the Statement!

Hmm....not sure that was the intention of the Lamb Inquiry!

StarOfValkyrie · 24/06/2010 21:37

Yeah, but they're bonkers them lot.

They told me that they don't have a blanket policy on refusing to specify 1:1 hours but they aren't doing it for anyone now to comply with the recommendations of the Lamb Inquiry.

Surely they know though, that rewriting a statement opens it, and therefore gives the parents right of appeal!?

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Militantendancy · 24/06/2010 21:49

Yes, they must know that, but they also know that only the most stubborn tenacious and clued up parents go to appeal - that is what they bank on (literally when it comes to funding) and that it how they get away with it.

Yes, funny how they keep quoting the Lamb Inquiry at me as well, to justify their policies, which of course, are blanket policies, but they won't admit it!

StarOfValkyrie · 24/06/2010 21:56

Well I asked them to put it in writing so that I could forward it to Brian Lamb. They never did.

I'm guessing they remove provision, then they remove their obligation for 6 months whilst the parents are running around paying out for expert witnesses etc. Even if they lose the tribunal, they've saved 6 months of funding

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roundthebend4 · 25/06/2010 08:39

Ug they better not mess with ds next year I'm finally happy with his