Please can someone talk to me about language units? A long way off but getting things started for statement

[used2bthin]

Hi, I know from our teaching DC to stick out thier tongue thread that some people on here have DCs who go to language units so I wondered if anyone would be willing to share with me what sort of needs these places are good for and what the chances of going into one then into the mainstream one are?

DDis 3.9 and has various medical issues including a life threatening condition which shouldnt affect her development but could have caused delays in terms of lots of hospital, feeling unwell etc and also gue ear so is a bit complicated but it is looking more and more as if her s and l delay is not just gong to resolve itself and she is confusing even me in that she sometimes seems to have good understanding of things but then I think she is just copying others. Anyway, assuming her understanding is age appropriate, how likely is it she would get into a language unit?

There is a while to go as she is a september baby but the thought of her going into school as things are terrifies me, she has already come home twice with bite marks from playgrop and the staff havent realised because dd wouldnt be able to say what happened.

does she have salt input? my ds has just been allocated a place at a language unit. he is 4.6 and has had (very patchy - really just monitoring)salt input since 2.4. we are deferring his entry to primary school until 5.8 (live in scotland) and he will have a split placement at his own nursery and the language unit from august.

his salt finally did an indepth assessment of his language needs in the spring and found his language profile to be very "spiky", eg, very good vocabulary, but very poor understanding of linguistic concepts. this means that although his language appears to be improving, he has big gaps in what he can do with language, especially in a classroom setting. the salt assessments didn't touch upon his social communication or his echolalia, but i'm hoping these will be addressed in the unit.

can you ask for a salt assessment with a view to referring to language unit depending on the results?

Hi I have ds who will go to language unit from September .first thing you need is a statement if not got .second thing is a report highlighting nerds and how to meet those needs.

Ds had ican report and was so thourgh that lea rolled over without quibble ican used s lot of standarised tests same ss lea nhs . Lea ey knew it be to expensive to provide support in Ms also knew I was adanant speech unit or tribunal.also helped nhs agreed with report wrote mote said the reports says everything I would say and then some

hmm not to early as panels sit may time to allocate placed and really by them to stand chance you need be least at proposed level of statement .

If you look at sodits query j posted some of ds bits from statement

Ds unit is pure speech problems but does touch on social and communication but only those caused by not having speech.Here a dx of Asd will. Tend rule out unit.

Ds has devlopmental verbal dyspraxia alongside severe oral dyspraxia very little speech only noun sounds , but he is very communicative will use what ever he can to talk eh signing , gestures dragging you to it .ds at 4.6 as vebal skills at one word level of 2.2.anything more than 1 word he just fell of the charts

raggedrobin she has SALT three times a week, once in a group at playgroup, one group I take her to and one individual session and playgroup is working on her IEP with a view to a statement application.

Pretty sure she won't get an ASD diagnosis but think the glue ear issue may slow us down, locked in a battle with silly cow audiologist.

have spoken to ican about assessments thanks to lovely mnetters otherwise i woulod never have hheard of it. Only proble, is she is too young as she is not yet four. Not long to go though.

can't dd's salt refer her to the language unti then? it was ds's salt who referred him.

roundthe bend dd also v communicative, only i can understand a lot of it tho, and i can't understand all of it. We use makaton but she even gets confused about that and uses the wrong sign or a sign for something that sounds similar.

no wait, that's not actually true! we had a meeting at nursery. salt discussed the outcome of assessments, and the general consensus of the meeting was that ds would be referred. we don't have a statement, but things may work differently in scotland.

woops, was referring to my own post there. i'm suffering from pregnant memory loss!!!

Yes here no statement no unit .used be thin ds was 4.4. When went to ican best thing I did .might be worth asking salt outright about ic they feel unit is way to go

don't worry I am a bit groggy, dd been unwell in hosp and my back hurts so not with it myself (just tken silly painkillers hence my slightly odd typos!) not sure who would refer dd but was told by an advice worker on a helpline that she wouldnt get in without a statement. Wich may take a while!

Hi my dd is 4.2 and started nursery april was hoping she would get in speech and language unit sept but its full we are now starting a statment it took me all morning to fill in our part I cant stand explaining all the things dd needs. She has severe speech delay only says about five words and she too gets muddled with signing.Iv beentold you need salt and ed sicologist to say if the child would be suited to speech and language unit.Oh and the statment.

thanks donutbrain, hope you get your sttement. yuck, got dla to sort too, dreading the statement stuff.

oh, our SALT just says its too early to diagnose or now whether dd will catch up in time for school.

If DD has got age appropriate understanding is a s and l unit still suitable then? Am guessing so? Does anyone know how long children tend t stay at them for? Also ours is in a different town, only a fifteen min drive so very manageable but if she movedout of the language unit in say two years after starting, would she stay at the mainstream part of the school or ave to move to one in her catchment area?

where we are in suffolk they stay there for two years then im not sure what.They are saying the same to you as they do us no diagnosis and they are too young wait and see it gets us down I must admit our dd has really come on at nusery as my other children are 20 and 13 so no young ones to copy.

My DD has also made great progress, its only when see her with other cldren I feel down, especially friend's second babies who are now beginning to over take dd even though they are 18months ish.

oh yes know what you mean my nephew has just turned 2 and he can walk run and talk loads better than dd I hate it when we go to parks too and people think she is so much younger than she is.

I.n Herts it's reviewed yearly but most do 2 years but ds will more likely do right through primary .yes age approaite cognitive .ds is pd but main need is speech

donutbrain yes can relat to that, I had an incident recently when dd puhed anothr child and the mother was demanding she say sorry. I had already apologised and told dd off so just said well she will have to sign it then took dds hand and did the sign for sorry. Was cross with the mother for assuming any three year old would say sorry on command in a way and had already dealt with dd myself.

roundthebend thats good to know. DD may do well then in a s and l unit. I would actually be happy to move closer to the school I think so she could stay there after her time in the unit.

I moved countys to get ds into the speech unit I want it's still about 40 mins away but that's doable as he will get transport

ds had. Dx of severe speech disorder before school. But actual name given on paper was at 4.4

here the junior speech unit Is I. Another school after 12 months in unit with intensive thereapy and support I'm hoping will give better idea

Ds2 (hfa/adhd) goes to S&L Unit attached to mainstream school. It's brilliant, caters for his other quirks as well and teaching staff are supportive and helpful. He loves school, loves learning and the structure is brilliant - I honestly think he would rather be at school every day than have weekends and holidays!. It's been extremely positive x

used2bthin that would have upset me too ! People just dont understand, but must admit I wouldnt have done a few years back as my other 2 children did everything when they were suppossed to didnt have massive tantrums like dd ate what they were told and I thought I was such a good mumWow now Ihave been taught a lesson!

roundthebend Well done for moving to get ds in speech unit, can you tell me has he got development delay as well?thanks

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yes and no lol without signing his understAnding is deLyed with signing it's Age approiate .non verbal cognitave testing put him within normal range

but because of his pd he can't hold pen properly still scribbles his cordination is shot and has problems with moblity he has Cp and the s&l he still carries Gdd tag as delayed in more than one area

But since he has dx infact several I rather it was removed ,

yep truth got better property and nice area and all my 4 now settled in way more for ds to do here .

Glad your all happy with the move and hope ds will really come on there. Was wondering about the development delay part because I was told speech unit wouldnt be suitable for my dd, as it is purely for speech problems. Bit fed up as feel she needs so much help dont know how she will get it at mainstream school. Dd has not been diagnosed with anything other than development delay oral dyspraxia and hypotonia nobody wants to put a lable on her so young 4.2. Oh will wait and see what the statement has to say and where we will go from there

I am wondering the same donutbrain as my dd has yet to have her over all development checked. Some days I think she has the same understanding as her peers but then I realise how different she is in other ways. She confuses the salt too with it all!

I need to get her DLA renewal in and speak to playgroup this week re her IEP and what they are thinking in terms of applying for a statement and take it from there guess. oping the paed GDD appointment will help and that she doesnt just say wait and see. And am going to call ican again and get dd on the waiting list as it sounds so positive. Any idea of cost?

Oh while I am here I wondered what others do when other children ask why their DC can't talk? or similar comments? It has just started to become an issue and recenty DDs friend said "dd can't talk very good can she", luckily her mum (my friend) is a play therapist so answered very well Ithought, she just said something along the lines of DD is better at scooting than you, everyone has things they are better at and she is learning about talking.