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come tell me about mild aspergers pretty please

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mumofatrio · 09/06/2010 18:56

possiblity my ds has it (nearly 7).....

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TheArsenicCupCake · 09/06/2010 19:06

Basically it's a triad of social/ communication/empathy issues.. The national autistic society site is a good place to start.

Why not list your concerns here.. You will probably get the advise to ask your gp for a referal to a pead if your concerned..
Lots of our dc's although show common issues all totally differ from each other!

Marne · 09/06/2010 19:07

My dd1(6) has mild AS:

  • She talks non-stop using the same tone of voice.
  • Shes very bright (knows more than i do), a great reader, loves maths.
  • She wants to be friends with everyone but struggles to keep friends.
  • Always wants her own way.
  • Likes to win and gets upset when she doesn't (which is most of the time).
  • she's a very fussy eater (lives on pizza), wont eat anything too wet or too dry.
  • Very sensitive, takes things to heart/too seriously.
  • Was hard work as a baby, never settled.
  • Likes to collect things (shells, stones, toys etc..).
  • Suffers with anxiety.

I hope that helps, although AS in girls can be slightly different to boys.

FlameOverThinks · 09/06/2010 19:09

My DD1 could be Marne's by the sound of it, with the exception of tends to eat anything.

She is currently crying every few mins because we are changing the sofa at the weekend.

TheArsenicCupCake · 09/06/2010 19:22

Ds

  • wants friends.. But is unable to make or maintain friendships
  • can read big emotions and body language but it's the small stuff he misses.. He gets if you cry your upset.. But misses someone getting upset or angry..
  • talks nonstop about his subject
  • no conversational turn taking..has a huge vocabulary but lacks varied tone and pitch... Comes across as a know it all
  • has no stranger inhibition .. Can't see if someone has nasty intentions
  • rule bound, but from his perspective.. Has rituals and needs to always know what is going to happen.. Can't tollerate change.
  • is a sponge regarding facts or systems.. Inappropriately relays this information
  • wants his own way, no imaginitive play..
  • takes wording litterally.. Understands jokes three minutes after everyone has finished laughing

hope that helps I've shortened his list of quirks a lot for you

mumofatrio · 09/06/2010 20:26

thanks guys

have only read yourlist so far marne and some so similar am a bit in shock

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mumofatrio · 09/06/2010 20:28

HERE ARE THE ONES FROM MARNES LIST THAT DS TICKS THE SAME ON :

My dd1(6) has mild AS:

  • She talks non-stop using the same tone of voice.
  • Shes very bright (knows more than i do), a great reader, loves maths.
  • She wants to be friends with everyone but struggles to keep friends. TICK
  • Always wants her own way. TICK TICK TICK
  • Likes to win and gets upset when she doesn't (which is most of the time). TICK
  • she's a very fussy eater (lives on pizza), wont eat anything too wet or too dry. TICK TO FUSSY EATING
  • Very sensitive, takes things to heart/too seriously. TICK
  • Was hard work as a baby, never settled. HALF TICK (I FORGET!)
  • Likes to collect things (shells, stones, toys etc..).
  • Suffers with anxiety. ? NOT SURE - TICK?
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mumofatrio · 09/06/2010 20:34

AND FROM YOURS ARSENIC:

Ds

  • wants friends.. But is unable to make or maintain friendships TICK TO THE MAINTAINING THING, SEEMS TO BE OK MAKING THEM
  • can read big emotions and body language but it's the small stuff he misses.. He gets if you cry your upset.. But misses someone getting upset or angry.. HMM NOT SURE ON THIS ONE TO BE HONEST, TRYING TO THINK!.
  • talks nonstop about his subject YES WHEN REALLY INTO SOMETHING LIKE A TV PROGRAM IE DR WHO
  • no conversational turn taking..has a huge vocabulary but lacks varied tone and pitch... Comes across as a know it all TICK TO GOOD VOCAB I NEED TO THINK ABOUT THE TONE AND PITCH THING TOO AS HAVE NEVER THOUGHT ABOIUT IT ACTIVELY TBH
  • has no stranger inhibition .. Can't see if someone has nasty intentions YES TICK AND VERY IMMATURE, ACTS ABOUT 4 I THINK
  • rule bound, but from his perspective.. Has rituals and needs to always know what is going to happen.. Can't tollerate change. WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO NOW MUM? TICK TICK TICK
  • is a sponge regarding facts or systems..YES BEGINNING TO TICK THIS RE FACTS Inappropriately relays this information NOT SURE?
  • wants his own way, no imaginitive play.. YES TO OWN WAY, TICK -AND YES I GUESS NEVER SEEN ANY IMAGINATIVE PLAY
  • takes wording litterally.. Understands jokes three minutes after everyone has finished laughing. NOT SURE, THOUGH YES TO LITERAL THING....

trying to list his quirks for you to look at too.

very lovable / loving
well behaved at school
struggles socially just doesnt quite seem to GET it
cant follow complex instructions or play a game
struggling at school - comlpex processing problem have just been told?
crying / emotional/babyish
seems to be about 4 rather than nearing 7
faddy eater, not wet and dry mixed only likes dry stuff, only now trying wet type foods
very musical could sing whole musicals at 3 clearly
what else...

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mumofatrio · 09/06/2010 20:36

How do you manage? I feel so sad that he is maybe never going to be 'accepted' naturally by his peers always struggling to be involved but not quite getting it

you guys sound so calm?

who diagnosed your kids?

school hinting with re to my son at this diagnosis, full tests to come.

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colditz · 09/06/2010 20:37

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I have a diagnosed ASD 7 year old

And is YES YES YES all the way down.

especially with the "Acts about four" bit, which I REALLY notice because I have a four year old too.

mumofatrio · 09/06/2010 20:38

me too as I have a 4 year old too and thats why i notice

wow so your ds sounds similar to mine?

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Goblinchild · 09/06/2010 20:39

Sorry for all those who've seen this before...

My son is 15 now, and ticks most of the criteria on this list. he's doing very well, handling GCSEs, got a couple of hobbies and is a lovely teen most of the time. Unlike many NT teens of friends.

AS
Main characteristics
Difficulties with social relationships.
Not picking up signals and info that NTs take for granted such as facial expressions, intonation and inferred information.

Difficulties with communication.
May speak fluently but take little notice of reactions, may monologue, may not be aware of audience's feelings or reactions.
May be over-precise, formal or literal in speech. Jokes, metaphors, sayings, figurative language may cause total confusion, stress, meltdowns etc.

Difficulties with social imagination, imaginative play and flexible thinking.
This one causes some confusion as people say 'Well, he plays with his lego and makes up stories and has imagination, so...?'
It's the social aspect of imaginative play that can cause difficulties. If the child is in total control of their 'world' and setting the agenda, then they are being imaginative. AS children find it difficult to play when other individuals are involved that have different ideas or who don't perform as expected, unlike a lego or toy figure.
Abstract thinking is another area of difficulty, although the child may learn facts and figures easily, dealing with abstract concepts, without clear outcomes may be a challenge. Subjects like literature, religion and philosophy.

They may also be:
socially awkward and clumsy in social relationships with others
naive and gullible, a good rule of thumb is that many Aspies function at an emotional age 2/3 that of their chronological age.
unaware of how others feel
unable to carry on a 'give and take' conversation
upset by any change in routines and transitions, often undetectable to NTs
literal in speech and understanding
overly sensitive to lights, noise, odours, tastes and tactile sensations again often undetectable by NTs
have fixed interests or obsessions
physically awkward in sports, often those that require simultaneous application of different skills.
Not a team player in any sense.
Possibly
have an unusually accurate memory for details
sleeping or eating issues that cause problems
trouble understanding and processing things they have heard or read
Inappropriate facial expressions or body language
unusual speech patterns, repetitive or irrelevant remarks
stilted, formal speech
overly loud, high or monotonous voice
stims that may involve rocking, fidgeting, joint cracking, humming, pacing...

mumofatrio · 09/06/2010 20:39

colditz

how is your son doing with it?

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mumofatrio · 09/06/2010 20:40

what is ASD ?

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mumofatrio · 09/06/2010 20:44

goblin thats my son pretty much

I am sooooooooooooooooo sad I know thats ridiculous but his 3.5 year old brother (sorry not 4!) is on par with him and his nearly 2 year old sister not far behind what will happen, will they overtake him

I want him not to have social struggles - like........ me sometimes

Maybe I gave it to him?

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coppertop · 09/06/2010 20:54

My 7yr-old ds has AS:

  • Language can often sound quite formal and a bit old-fashioned. Particularly likes finding and using new words.
  • Takes everything very much to heart.
  • Has particular interests that he knows a great deal about.
  • Wears as little clothing as he can possibly get away with. If he could he would wear shorts and T-shirts all year round if going outside. (Sensory issue)
  • Very quirky sense of humour.
  • Talks at people rather than to them.
  • Takes things very literally.
  • Needs instructions to be kept fairly short and/or broken down for him.
  • Finds sudden change difficult to cope with and becomes anxious and stressed.
  • Sleep has always been a big problem for him and he is prescribed melatonin to help him fall asleep.

Generally he's a cross between an eccentric old man and a toddler but in the body of a 7yr-old.

Goblinchild · 09/06/2010 20:59

'what is ASD? '

It's Autistic Spectrum Disorder, but I need to update my list because it's now often referred to as ASC Autistic Spectrum Condition.
Don't panic, mine took longer to 'get' certain things than his peers (Not academically, socially) but he has developed a sense of humour, and although instantly recognisable as an Aspie by those in the know, others see him as a focused, polite and self-contained teenager.

Don't start in on the Blame Game with yourself either. Look at what you've got and go from there, the future is unpredictable to most of us (Avoids Offending the Prophets and Clairvoyants)

mumofatrio · 09/06/2010 21:04

aw I see......

Generally he's a cross between an eccentric old man and a toddler but in the body of a 7yr-old. confused THIS IS MY SON TOO!!!!

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colditz · 09/06/2010 22:16

big ticks to everything coppertop says.

Also, ds1 copes with it with help. get the school onside. My son's school is the most experienced in the area with children who have special needs, although it's the worst SATS results - I think these two are linked. Parents who suspect their children to have SNs tend to send their children to my son's school which as a result scores poorly on the SATS - and they don't give a crap about that, which I love them for.

I don't take ds1 to shops if I can help it but it's hard for me to point out where his Aspergers ends and his ADHD begins . Other children with Aspergers might be fine in shops but Ds1 plays up immensely - touches everything, doesn't cope. It's best to let him monologue about Tower Defense III, as he will actually stop hopping, touching, rolling on the floor if he gets to talk at you about this.

I must also point out that I ticked a huge amount of coppertop's boxes and still do. I never wore as many clothes as my peers (yet cannot STAND raindrops falling on my head, it makes me feel physically sick), was awkward, boffy, sobbed when "the christmas china" wasn't got out one year, took books to school rather than have to deal with more than one friend at a time, and buy New Scientist rather than cosmo. Perhaps if I had been born 25 years later, I'd have a diagnosis - but I'm happy now! And there are a few posters on MN with Aspergers, and you'd not know to talk to them, and they also seem to be having happy lives.

colditz · 09/06/2010 22:17

Ds1 is quite capable of berating me for not wearing "sensible footwear" one minute, and spinning into the road in front of a lorry 30 seconds later.

Definately old man/excited toddler mix.

mummysaurus · 09/06/2010 22:30

Colditz - the rolling on the floor in shops made me laugh as ds aged 4.5 does this all the time and anywhere.

The really funny thing is that it was only last week that this struck me as at all odd!

My mum is a bit odd and i developed a high embarrassment thresh-hold as a child which stands me in good stead!

Sorry for hijack mumofatrio - glad you are finding people who can help. My son is still undiagnosed but i think he is on the spectrum. He also has global delayed development.

In terms of how does everyone cope - in my case I have good days and bad days. Today is a good day for me!

mumofatrio · 09/06/2010 22:36

you guys are helping me understand!

whats global delayed development? x

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ZipadiSoozi · 09/06/2010 22:43

Global Developmental Delay, tricky one, sort of child is half their age, poor co-ordination, jerky movements?

ZipadiSoozi · 09/06/2010 22:45

sorry I meant, 'sort of' as in loosly

mumofatrio · 09/06/2010 22:47

He may well have that too? I remember NOT being able to compute reading and writing until age 9 approx perhaps I HAD IT ! As I went on to be quite clever but what A slow tedious start!

I think he is like me now I come to think about it

Are these things MOSTLY genetic do you think?

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mummysaurus · 09/06/2010 22:53

I was told GDD means they are delayed in multiple areas - in ds' case - motor skills, language, social and self -care. sometimes when older they get a more specific dx - e.g Autism plus dyspraxia or be assessed as having cognitive problems or low IQ.

Not sure if he will catch up and at moment gap is growing wider with peers as while ds learns he does so at a slower pace.

But today he was very clever and came and told me that he couldn;t play with his cars because "I disappeared my cars!" (very obsessed with magic)