Don't forget TV programme tonight

[mieow]

The second part of Born to be different is on tonight

just to remind anyone who wants to watch it, the third and last episode is on tonight C4 at 9pm

just checking someone had posted a reminder to all us busy mums...well done fio2

sorry made me feel really sad tonight was down anyway now even more down and please dont tell me off for reminding everyone

haven't had the balls to watch it yet actually - just taped it . Was it really dreadful ?

well it was quite heart wrenching again....
I couldn't believe that where Zoe lives there are only 3 special needs nursery places....I think that some special needs children benefit from early placements, I know my dd loves her pre-school and it has certainly enhanced her development being with her peers
I think Shelby's Mum deserves a medal in fact all of them were so strong-puts me to shame, if it was my school report I could see it saying"Needs to do more"
Well must go in work for 7am and I think 'morning/all day sickness feelings are returning.....uhhhmmmm how to hide those at work tomorrow especially with my friend working the same time

I think I was in a bad mood yesterday MABS-I dont think it was really that was it? Although chatee I felt like a bad mommy after watching all their 'positive' thoughts, shelby's mom was an amazing woman. Did they say their was only 3 special needs nursery places or 3 special needs nurseries for zoe-if there was only 3 'places' thats disgusting.

congratulations chatee on your new pregnancy
you kept that quiet, hope youre not too sickly

Congratulations Chatee on your news .

Fio, I found it really sad yesterday watching the programme. I know what you mean aboutt he positive thoughts, but I think they probably get exactly the same way as us. Look at Shelby's mum sobbing her heart out, and Zoe's mum trying her hardest not to cry on camera. If it were us on tv we would be saying all those positive things too I think, the negative side is too depressing to vocalise, because it's too real iyswim.

Actually I felt pretty low afterwards. Kept crying whenever I saw little Shelby and William having their fits. I was sort of hoping to be able to watch it and think blimey ds is much further along than them, things aren't so bad after all, but with the exception of Shelby and William I couldn't honestly do that. That in turn made me feel guilty for even trying to compare. It doesn't help that we had an appointment with his ds's neurologist the day before. No surprises or anything, but I seem to get very low after he has been seen by anyone at the moment. It's another reminder that he has long term problems, and we are in it for the long haul. Also I have been thinking along the lines of what the programme said, that it is now that the differences between our children and others are becoming more marked. We visited an old friend in Wales this weekend, and she has a 22month old daughter. She was running around all over the place while ds was either sitting in a highchair or crawling on the floor. Ds is 28 months btw. There were other things I noticed too, but I think these 3 factors have made me mrs gloom and doom at the moment.

Argh! And as if to reinforce my doomy mood the postman has just delivered confirmation of ds being on the disability register, and a big folder of sn info.

lou thats exactly how I felt, they were all 3 and a half same age as my dd and although she is now fully mobile but her communication skills are limited. I just kept feeling she was worse than them all, but I dont know if she is, its just how I felt.

You are right too about the negative side, imagine having to talk about all your heartache in front of a camera-you wouldn't be able to do it would you? I didnt like that bit either about saying about the gap with peers getting bigger, and when they compared the boy with DS to his younger brother, saying look the younger one understands more than the older one-it just reminded me of my two ds is 22months younger than dd and is leading the way in some things.

Sorry I am just nattering on lou but we obviously had the same feelings, I thought it was just me.

Shebly's mum and William's parents really desevre a medal. Shebly's mum made me cry. She is so strong and was so together in front of her other children. I really started to cry when she was on the phone to her mum and she said 'I have an awful feeling that.......'
Zoe's mum is a bit silly slepping with Michael and getting pregnant when he isn't with her and with someone else. But Zoe is a lovely little girl......
And hasn't the little girl with SB come on great?? Can you believe the doctors wanted to get rid of her??

I think if we feel the same then many others must share those feelings too, as I don't think we are that odd! Ds2 is the youngest so I haven't got the comparison issues you face every day fio, but it hits me like a ton of bricks when he does play around his peers. Most of the time we live in the bubble of our home and he's just him, it doesn't seem so unusual the things he can or can't do, so it's always a bit eye opening when we go out. I guess some days just get to me more.

Mieow I thought Zoe's mum was an idiot for the way she let Zoe's dad behave, but some people will never learn. Can't see what the attraction is that he had so many women on the go. Or are there just too many women with low self esteem?

oh lou- I feel like that- just written about it on another thread as well....... (didn't see the tv programme).

I couldn't agree more about living in a bubble type environment at home and then feeling a bit like you've been punched in the stomach sometimes when you see younger children crawling and doing stuff yours can't. I couln't help but feel a bit sad when I saw her little friend at a party last night, who is nearly a whole year younger than Lottie and for the 1st time she went from her tummy to the crawling position and then pushed herself back and was in the sitting position, I was chuffed to pieces but at the same time so sad for little Lottie who was sat next to her just staring at her. I know she'll get there in the end but all the other kids were running around chasing each other etc and lottie couldn't join in, ahh well she'll get there in the end aye.

I wonder what zoes dads ex(who is now his partner again) feels aswell now hes got yet another kid on the way with zoes mum-he was just an immature prat-

oh what a tangled web we weave

thomcat- although I love seing ds2 do stuff- it's bittersweet. It's great to see him understanding what I say, and pointing away at things, but I also feel it's not fair. It's so easy for him and so difficult for ds1.

Spending 2 weeks in close contact to normal kids (camping) was really quite hard at times.

jimjams I love seeing my youngest doing things too and you're right it is bittersweet.

I was wondering what Michael's current partner must be thinking. And when he was cuddled up on the hospital bed with her and then it cut to him saying that it was hard as he wasn't with her anymore??? I was shouting at the telly LOL Silly girl!!!!!!! Though she did say that she still loved him.

Then she's even more stupid imo mieow! Didn't it say he had 5 children already, not including the one she is expecting? Zoe, 2 by the woman he left her for, and a couple more milling around? Perfect candidate for a vasectomy I'd say.

just a little off thread (sorry) thanks for the good wishes, will keep you all posted-how am i going to manage as if appointments/playgroup/physio for dd in a week wasn't enough.....now there's all my ante-natal oh and trying to work as well
trying to keep the secret is sooo hard

Chatee - oh how thick am I that I missed it - many congratulations on your news.

Really feel negative about everything at the mo , so i'm not going to add to everyone else's 'black cloud' - suffice it to say I'm thinking of you all. xx

MABS, chatee had kept it secret just added a little note down there that that she had morning sickness-I thought is she ill/pregnant-checked the pregnant board and there she was largin it
only joking chatee

so how far along are you Chatee ? How are you doing?

Only just 5 weeks.....aaaahhhhh ?????weeks to go,
I'm so impressed with myself, my mum and dad have just returned from hols and phoned up and I managed just under an hour on the phone and didn't tell them
Want to surprise them in a couple of weeks when they come to visit(don't want them getting too excited too soon just in case)
so it's great being able to share my news here

That bittersweet thing must be horrid, what a difficult feeling to deal with. I must say that I'd LOVE another child but would really like Lottie to at least be walking, or getting around somehow, before I go for it again. Her 2nd birthday isn't until Xmas but for 1 reason or another I was thinking about what to do for it this morning and decided that unlike last year when I hired a baby gym / activity centre for the afternoon and 30 other kids all ran round going mad I don't want that this year. I don't want her to be the olny 2 year old there unable to join in on her own birthday party, it's sad really. However have to remind myself that I've got a beautiful happy little girl who finds everything funny and gives me massive hugs - so I shouldn't give a stuff about anyhting else!! Sorry, rambled AGAIN, and this has nothing to do with original thread!

Thomcat it isnt horrid, just reminds you sometimes thats all. My dd was 22 months when ds was born and she wasnt walking and to be honest it made no difference, she was still my baby. I still think shes a baby now at 3 1/2 and shes turning into a right little madam. You have to do what you think is right for Lotties birthday and stuff everone else-what would she like to do? Xmas is along way off Im sure you'll be suprised what she'll have accomplished by then.