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Yeah...I wasn't saying that you should use a normal cubicle. But you know that.

but riven who would entertain their children then?

Its just wrong.. loos, parking bays whatever are a facility to make going about daily tasks easier for the disabled & their carers... any abuse is just wrong.
And don't be mistaken that its just parents of NT kids that abuse it, its not!

I met my friend to go shopping a couple of weeks ago when we finished I walked back to the pay & display, she had used her ds's badge & parked in a Disabled bay!!

Totally wrong, but just goes to show not all SN parents are respectful, just in the same way that not all NT parents are disrespectful.

Riven, I think it depends on the loos tbh, and your assessment of the ituation at the time. I didn't always use the disabled loos out of some sense of false entitlement, or even convenience, more when I was caught with a difficulty and I absolutely couldn't think of an alternative. Sometimes I would boldly enter a clinic reception 5 mins away because their 'normal' toilets were more manageable, even though I didn't have an appointment.

The reason I thought I was a crap parent was because I could see myself working harder than other parents and yet still my child seemed to be going very very wrong compared with theirs. I tried hard to integrate with other parents and am proud to say I managed it, but it would take me 4x the effort to attend a birthday party/toddler group etc. and my DS could NEVER be left alone even whilst I popped to the toilet/got something to eat or something. Even WiTH a dx, our culture very much places the responsibilty of a childs behaviour soley with the parents. A dx however sometimes gives you an explanation you can use when making an odd request to reduce some of the negative behaviour, i.e. 'he'll wait, but please let him be at least 4th' or 'do you mind if I put his food out myself because he can be funny about it' etc.

TBH, I can think of things that are more 'naughty' than me using the loo while taking J.

weirdly dd being in a wheelchair does have a bonus, I can park her and leave her with people(used to be a weekly think that I left her and ds at the butchers whilst I went to the veg bit, where I couldn't get her sn buggy in)
but the drawback can be that people talk to her like she is a baby or has no understanding.

GMS- I would go to tribunallikea shot, DH is mroe reticent- I have problems getting him to allowreins atm so aiming for wrist ahrness; I find he'slike that with everything (SNU was a big opne) and I have to give him leeway to absorb it, one thing at a time. Funny in some ways becuase is the most pessimistic of us about DS3'slifelong opportunities (but that may becuase I have mroe experience of SN- there was a married couple at a unit I worked at, both LD, sharing an attic room).

Riv Last time I tried totake DS1 into a ladies room he thumoped me, the sign on the door apaprently is an absolute. Funny how they avry isn't it? Fortuanrely a trip out with DS1 and more than 1 other means DH being there anyway which solves it.

Weegie I sendds2to the appropriate looa s wellLOL_ no idea why given that ds3 can take an age to wash his hands / jumpacross room 16 times / spin on spot looking at lights so it doesn't speed things up in any way. One of those things I feel I must do I guess- plus I don'twant ds2 thinking he has an entitlement.

I only let ds1 in emergencies: at the Glsto Extravaganza a few years back (run by same people,very different entity) DH had a marney with a Steward who was trying to barr DS1 from the toilets when ds1 was starting to wet and there was a queue of around 50.... told Dh we were lucky ds1 has Aspergers so could queue jump . Would have taken it higher but have stewarded in the apst and frankly didn'twant to get invovled with all taht bickering that goes on there again. Anywhere else and I'd have amde a complaint though, bloody rude!

Riv have you seen this

Daily I thank god for my strong bladder,even when OPG I never needed to wake for the loo (nothing to do with being permanenlty semi dehydrated through a dislike of drinking though )

riven this is what we use
we also have a more comfatable one for in doors iynwim

Peachy, if your child is quite heavy and cannot lift herself/stand, could you still use that shewee thing? we now can only go out if we can get home in time for the loo as there are never any hoists in public loos and without I am completely stuck with dd's toilet needs.