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freaking out here, hope someone can help...

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leelee39 · 23/05/2005 16:30

Hi,

Not sure if anyone remembers me. I have posted here several times and you've all been SOOOO helpful! I tend to get neurotic about ds's development (he's now 25 months) periodically. Usually, he outgrows whatever it is. I have had him evaluated. No one (so far) has been concerned about him

He is very verbal. He's social, engaged, etc. He feeds himself, plays appropriately with toys. Nice pretend play too.

There are 2 things that are getting me freaked out. He's starting to talk in more and more little sentences (instead of 2 or 3 word phrases), which I know is good. However, he is reversing the pronouns I and you, occasionally saying "you want juice? please" when he means "i want juice," or "pick you up" instead of "pick me up." I have read that this is a sign.

Should I be concerned? How common is this at 2? And WHAT DO I DO ABOUT IT? I've been correcting him gently, a little. And now sometimes hes ays "I want like "I want mommy." He also says "I got a boo-boo"

But mostly it's you. "You did it!" It's like he says what he expects me to say to him sometimes.

He is responsive to questions, etc., unless he's really super invovled with something and then he might ignore me for a moment. But for the most part he answers and doesn't just repeat. He makes his needs known, describes things, etc. Just freaked about the pronouns.

ALSO, PLEASE HELP ME ON THIS ONE. Ds has known his colors, shapes, letters and #s since about 18 months. But all of a sudden, he seems to have forgotten most letters. He's mixing them up. I'll say waht's this and he'll tell me the wrong thing. It's like he used to know them but he forgot or something. I am panicked that he lost this skill. He does seem to be focusing more and throwing and catching and hand-oriented things. And I do see some improvements (minor ones) in this area. But how does a kid just FORGET something they've known really well for a really long time? I AM REALLY WORRIED ABOUT THIS ONE.

I know it doesn't matter if a 2 year old knows his letters. But how could he used to know them and now forget them?

Should I be worried? Any advice?

Also, ds just got glasses for farsightedness, so I am wondering if the letter thing could be related to a visual thing? But that would be strange because he is recognizing everything else it seems so far. It's just the letters....

He looked at a B today and I said what's that and he said "G." B and G look nothing alike and he used to know this stuff like the back of his hand. He would call out random letters he saw places.....

OP posts:
Fio2 · 23/05/2005 18:15

pmsl at BH

ohhh I so wish it was me

misdee · 23/05/2005 18:16

i'm always popping in

Fio2 · 23/05/2005 18:17

yes tamum and scummymummy and janh and hmb are terrific and lots and lots of other people

anyway my dog has a nosebleed, can anyone help?

misdee · 23/05/2005 18:17

pinch the bridge of his nose.........

Davros · 23/05/2005 18:17

I am picturing BH sitting in her khaki shorts, white legs freezing, reading some interesting work of DD's and being a norty girl posting under a new name...... and then buckling!! Hee hee.

Merlot · 23/05/2005 18:18

Not trying to jump on the bandwagon here leelee39, but are you genuine??!

I for one, have suggested in the past that it may have been you that had the problem, but now I am sure it is. Sorry if that seems harsh and you are a genuine poster, but I really dont feel that this board is appropriate for this ongoing reassurance you need.

Additionally, EVERYONE, you have had contact with have told you not to worry - you must seek help for yourself if you cannot do that, otherwise you may do your son some untold damage.

happymerryberries · 23/05/2005 18:20

Thanks fio, that is very sweet.
Most kids who know me think that I'm a cow.
In fact ds told me tonight that he didn't like me, and that none of the children in his class liked me either because 'I've told them all about you Mummy'

So i needed bucking up!

Fio2 · 23/05/2005 18:21

hey merlot, get you what a great thread

obv if leelee is genuine then I love her

Jimjams · 23/05/2005 18:39

BH - you dark horse you. And agree- hoooray for tamum, scummy, janh, hmb et al (misdee I always count you as SN- you are a DLA woman after all....)

Twiglett · 23/05/2005 18:40
Twiglett · 23/05/2005 18:40
Twiglett · 23/05/2005 18:41

waaaaaAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Blossomhill · 23/05/2005 18:41

Davros - I know but I felt so strongly about it. I know that so many of our 2 year olds (how protective does that sound?) are not doing anywhere near those things and found it very insulting. Almost like our noses were being rubbed in it IYSWIM
The term special needs is not one to be taking lightly and I really do see where the "other" thread was coming from now
I think it was the bit about forgetting letters that really got me. WTF ????

coppertop · 23/05/2005 18:51

I leave you lot alone for 5 minutes and there's an outbreak of mooing and name-changing....

Leelee - as everyone else has said, your ds' development sounds absolutely fine. It's perfectly normal to 'forget' one skill when moving on to another. It's also very early to be worrying about pronouns. My eldest still gets them mixed up and he's almost 5.

Fio2 · 23/05/2005 19:23

oh and twiglet, she is ALWAYS wonderful

Twiglett · 23/05/2005 19:25

'bout bloody time too

Fio2 · 23/05/2005 19:27

catch that pigeon now

Jimjams · 23/05/2005 20:18

I've just done a search on leelee. Am I right in thinking your son didn;t start to point at all until 20 months? That is a little late, and I would have started to have worried about ds2 if he'd been that late. but your son's development now sounds fine, and as he's already seen someone I'd relax and enjoy him tbh.

Christie · 23/05/2005 20:52

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YogiYahooey · 23/05/2005 21:00

TBH I am surprised that you have managed to get an appointment on the NHS with some of your worries. I don't know your child and cannot say your worries are unfounded and I am not being mean but YOU are usually the person who has the appointment with paedrician/spch thpst/whatever that everyone else really needs.
You do not need to hot house your child, these children have been shown to rebel when they get to about 8 (for some reason - working too hard) but a lot of children come in to their own anyway.

YogiYahooey · 23/05/2005 21:15

Actually bearing in mind that I am new poster and all - I am sorry in advance - but I have read some of your past postings and to be honest one word comes to mind - irritating.
Sorry mate but what a waste of time!! enjoy what you have got.

Saker · 23/05/2005 22:10

I think you are all being a bit hard on Leelee. I think her point is that he was very early knowing his letters and now he doesn't seem to know them - and she is asking if it is regression? It is unusual for a child of that age to recognise letters so you could say that is a bit odd in itself. However I agree that if everything else is fine then there should be nothing to worry about.

Saker · 23/05/2005 22:15

Oh now sorry I do remember who you are Leelee - you have been worrying no end about circle time in the past and I have also been one telling you to relax in the past. I'm sure you don't mean to be insensitive but I can see why people are a bit fed up now.

Sorry everyone .

leelee39 · 24/05/2005 03:35

So sorry! I did not mean to offend. Ds did know letters and #s early - kind of unusal but who cares. My concern is not at all that he knew them, but that he suddenly seems to have forgotten them. Is that regressive? Could it be a temporary thing? This was my concern.

Ds used to spin toys, ate solids late (14 months), didn't point till late, had (continues to have, I feel) some transition issues. Yes, I have worried to no end about his refusal to participate in certain aspects (most aspects) of circle time.

I also have a brother-in-law who I am certain is Aspergers.

Ds is indeed very verbal. This is his strength and in the past while I was quite worked up and worried, I took comfort in this solitary area. But when I start to see "quirks" (ie - pronouns) in his "strengths," I get concerned again. And I begin to berate myself for dismissing things in the past.

When I see ds with other kids, sometimes I feel he is just one of them. Other times, I feel he has a tougher time with adjustments, wants to hold onto the toy when everyone else cleans it up without complaint. Sometimes I feel that he just seems younger or something, less mature. Other times I feel that while he talks well compared to the other kids, his movement is kind of awkward.

He has a very strong personality and doesn't like to do things "on demand," more like on his schedule.

Some of these things he has outgrown. Some we still find to varying degrees.

I sometimes feel like I am waiting for the other shoe to drop, you know? When I see an oddity - like forgetting a skill - I start to think I was right all along: ds's"differences" mean there may be a problem.

And so I came here for some advice because I figure if anyone knows what to look for, it is people who have been through it. There are people on this board whose concerns have been dismissed, only later to have received a dx. I fear that I may find myself in this category and with all that is said about early intervention, I would hate to miss this opportunity to help ds with any difficulties he may face.

Also, I am pregnant (due in 5 weeks) and am a bit of an emotional mess these days.

I am so, so sorry if I have bothered or offended.

By the way, I am in the states and have no idea what "NHS" is. The evaluations that I have had for my son were private and I had to pay for them myself, which wasn't easy. But there's this little voice in my head that keeps reminding me off all the ways in which ds's development differed from the normal "timeline" expressive blossomed before receptive, speech before gesturing. Now some things have evened out, but the history is there and when new things crop up, I worry.

I wish you all the best on your journeys. A special thanks to those of you who had sound advice or comments for me. I hope this explains a little where I am coming from. While the picture may be relatively good now, I find the progression to have been rocky. I didn't explain that in my earlier post. I just gave the here and now picture. Anyway, given all this (and my admitted tendency to neurosis...), YES, I admit I worry.

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JakB · 24/05/2005 08:14

leelee, sorry, we're a bit sensitive on here as there was a rash of posts about children who seemed to have very little wrong. But I understand how parents can freak out and there is so much about autism in the press.