D & V a month after probable measles

[TotalChaos]

DS probably had measles last month - the swab the GP took could only confirm he was immune, and as he had first MMR then he could be immune due to that. A month on, he starts on D & V, and has had it for a week. Am arranging for a stool sample to be sent off. If DS had any gut problems due to measles, would it 1)include vomiting and 2)start a month after the measles? I am hoping that it's a case of his immunity being low so him picking up a tummy bug rather than that any damage was done by the measles....Because he was barely unwell at all with the measles, I didn't bother giving vitamins/cod liver oil/ probiotics. Would there be any point doing so now?

Thanks very much for the posts PipinJ. It's so bloody annoying and worrying. I didn't let him have MMR booster because of my worries about ASD (he's got language delay (possibly slightly hyposensitive, but no issues re:routine etc) and IMHO is on the edge of the spectrum - I think he's got at the very least Semantic Pragmatic Disorder)

Stools are thick and runny - sort of texture of melted ice cream or watery. No undigested food. I am keeping him dairy free atm anyway because of the D & V, he is very sensitive to milk and yoghurt. He used to drink 4 litres of milk a day. So now he never has milk at home, I let him have 1 carton a day at school as this doesnt adversely affect stools/behaviour.

Is IgG test the same as the Sunderland test?

He does occasionally scream when tantrummy/excited which he didn't used to do - but I saw one of his little friends at school do this (and get told off by his mum) so I am hoping this is just him copying.

Language etc wise - not noticing any significant deterioration - the odd mistake/echolalia you get from him when he's under the weather.

Thanks TC. DS seemed to have temporoary lactose intolerance after a bug last summer. I spoke to GP yesterday, who said to bring a stool sample in to be test (where's the ever so slightly queasy smiley when you need one)......

I'm now in tears. Just had a letter through from Educational Welfare over his poor attendance (81% instead of 95%). I've just had enough. So now do school not believe me

TC please don't worry, these are just standard letters sent out when schools send in their stats. A nice sarcastic phone call to them will sort it out.

Sorry to hear your son is still unwell.

Oh no, you poor thing. Could it be one of those letters that's sent out automatically? Are you on good enough terms with the teachers/head that you can go in and have a chat with them. Am sure it can be sorted, but it doesn't sound like you need the hassle right now on top of everything else.

thanks ladies - I've spoken to the deputy head on the phone, who is also DS's class teacher, and she has been OK, said as long as I write in to explain each absence then school are happy. She was very sympathetic when I explained how the recent measles is likely to have reduced his immunity.

Hi Totalc
You can find a DAN! in the UK by checking out www.treatingautism.com, www.autismresearchinstitute.com, or look in the autism file magazine.
A recommended practitioner is Jean Muscroft.
Whereabouts do you live in the UK?

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Thanks jg3. Will look at the site. Am in North West.

you're welcome!
If you can get to Edinburgh there's also the Autism Treatment Trust (can't remember the www addy)
Also, Treating Autism is at .co.uk not .com

There is a yahoo group called Autism Biomedical Europe. They are all parents of kids with autism (some little and some grown up kids) also there are some hfa and aspies on this group. They are all treating health issues. I would suggest you join the forum and post your question there too. I'm sure they would give you great advice!

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thanks for the links and advice

Thanks Pipin . DS's stomach seems to have settled, touch wood. Think for any more absences I may have to go to GP to cover my backside. Thanks for the info about the testing - it puts me off Sunderland a little that I would have to put DS back on milk - I allow him to have milk at school, as a very small amount doesn't have adverse results on him. I think I do need to look into probiotics for the future though.

The educational welfare officer stuff is still pissing me off - as our LEA is pretty useless for kids with SN, very few statements etc, and I feel like with this focus on absence etc they are now trying to punish me for DS having SN (I feel it's not a coincidence that DS has these language problems and milk problems and is coming down with all these bugs....)

quick q since I have some knowledgeable bio-med types replying - how many months should I leave it between DS having had measles and him getting his pre-school DTP? I do want him to have the second jab, since relying on one MMR wasn't exactly effective

Hi TC,
do you mean preschool mmr?
sorry, prob me, was awake at 4 today!
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jg3 - DS had first MMR at 15 months (no problems after it) and all the baby DTP jabs. He didn't have pre-school MMR or pre-school DTP. I want him to have pre-school DTP once he has fully recovered from having measles in December 08.

Ds1 doesn't and didn't have any gut issues as far as I know or can remember so can't advise from my own experience. But hope you manage to get to the bottom (pun not intended) of this.

DS is (touch wood) recovered now - am waiting for stool sample results, but hoping it was just a nasty bug.

I don't know really what to say. If you're going to vax make sure he's really well and give high doses of vitamins at the time too!
I'm sorry but i don't know about your son's disability?

For me I'll never vax my son (or any of our daughters for that matter) again. My eldest DD has bowel disease and the other dd has chronic constipation (no other probs thankfully). Not saying these probs were caused by vax but that the girls possibly have mitochondrial dysfunction. My ds does (we had tests done) he also has low immunity and inflammation, allergies etc, and his bowel probs didn't appear until he was over a year old!
Whether vax's caused/helped along his autism we'll never know. P.S he never had mmr or single jabs so it wasn't that. He did have dpthib at 2 and 3 months but nothing else.
When we gave him those jabs he was suffering from severe colic and I was on antibiotics (he was breastfed) we shouldn't have vx cos he was unwell. I don't blame the surgery nurse but i do blame myself. I think informed choice is the way to go. Inform yourself before choosing. I recommend 'the truth about vaccines' by british gp Richard Halvorsen. You can get it cheap on amazon.
You could post on Autism Biomedical Europe yahoo group. the forum there is great.

I'm not anti vaccines at all! just pick your schedule/times, not all children are genetically strong enough and not all vax's are necessay (IMHO!... chicken pox is a good example i think!)

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