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In shock - baby born with Down's syndrome completely unexpectedly - please help

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mountaingoat · 31/10/2007 23:42

Three weeks ago I gave birth to a beautiful baby girl, my second child. For 3 hours we were elated. Then we were told that she had some facial abnormalities which would need to be looked at further. From the delivery suite we were taken back to the post natal ward and put in a private room, at which point alarm bells started ringing. Shortly after that, a crowd of doctors came into the room and told us that our daughter has Down's syndrome. At that point it felt as though the sky had fallen in. I am 33; we have one beautiful, bright, perfect son (aged 3), and it had never entered our heads (very arrogantly I now realise) that we might have a child who was anything other than perfect too. We had the nuchal translucency scan at 12 weeks and were given a 1 in 5600 risk. We had (wrongly) treated that result as a no risk result, and hadn't thought again about DS. I cried for two days, and I have never felt such pain and sadness in my life. I am ashamed to say that I knew nothing about Down's Syndrome other than that it was a disability. I am now slowly coming to terms with the situation. It is made easier by the fact that our daughter is a delightful, cute, darling baby, who I love just as much as my DS. We have also had tremendous support from the NHS (which, I am also ashamed to say, I have never had a good word for in the past)I would love to hear from anyone else who this happened to - I have read lots from people who knew that their baby had Down's before he/she was born, or where people knew they were at high risk. We were low risk and had no idea at all and I think coping with the shock has probably been the hardest thing. Also, whilst people keep saying very positive things about Down's I feel so so sad and I don't know how to cope with that. Please help.

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chonky · 01/11/2007 21:40

Hi mountaingoat.

Congratulations on the birth of your dd, and welcome to the SN board. One of my best friend's has a ds with DS - he is an absolute joy and I feel blessed to know him (he's very funny ). My dd has CP and learning disabilities, it was through my dd that I met this friend.

I hope you feel that you can come to this board for support, I found the parents on here a real help when I was coming to terms with my dd's disability xx

eidsvold · 01/11/2007 21:43

congratulations on the birth of your daughter.

I want to write a long post but need to get off and get dd1 ready for school.

So I will echo everything everyone else said - for us - welcome to Holland explained it quite well.

Contacting the Down syndrome Association in the UK was brilliant and they were very helpful and supportive.

I will try and get back tonight ( my time) and write more.

My gorgeous girl ( well my one of 3 gorgeous girls) is 5 and I think there are pics of her at a few weeks old and then more recently if you want a look.

Take care and be kind to yourself - you will be feeling a range of emotions and responses and each one is okay. You will need time to work through the loss - loss of the dream you had for your child and the image you had of your wee babe.

She is not gone - she is just different and in time you will learn to dream new dreams.

marthaboo · 01/11/2007 21:49

Threads like these are what keep me on Mumsnet.

Congratulations on the birth of your dd, mountaingoat .

soflo · 01/11/2007 21:58

Dear Mountaingoat, Firstly huge congratulations on the birth of your baby girl. I have never posted on here before, but have been present for a few months in the sidelines. I feel compelled to write now because our story, is your story... My Dd2 is now 8 months old and has Down's Syndrome. Like you, I didn't know before hand, had a "low risk" nuchal scan, was 34 and didn't think "it could happen to me". Well, it did. We were told very quickly after she was born that they suspected Down's and it was confirmed 2 days later. I knew something wasn't right almost straight away, she also had an unrelated respiritory infection so was rushed to Special Care. Anyway, to jump forward a bit, we are now living relatively happily in Holland.... Life has changed, but not dramatically - we also have a 3 year old girl, so we had to get on with things really. That's not to say things are "normal", there are a lot of appointments (portage, physio, hydrotherapy, speech therapy - am tired just typing that!), plus other bits and pieces. But the thing about all these appointments is that it is all working on positive things, working towards helping her. The NHS has been amazing.

Anyway, I will not bore you with any further detail - you will get to that in good time. For now, all I can say is, enjoy her because she is your gorgeous baby and nothing else matters.

If I can work out how to use this site properly, I'll try to post some pictures.

Take care, Love Soflo

mountaingoat · 01/11/2007 23:22

I'm so glad I came here for help. These are such positive strong stories which give me so much hope. It also makes me realise that my bizarre mixed emotions of joy and happiness at the birth of my lovely girl, together with grief and sadness just because, as Thomcat says, of her extra chromosome(!) are normal and I will get through this period. Thank you all.

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MrsJohnCusack · 02/11/2007 00:24

Dear mountaingoat

massive congratulations on the birth of your daughter

and what a brilliant thread. DH has read it and said he now understands why I love Mumsnet so much

BreeVanDerCampLGJ · 02/11/2007 00:36

When I read the OP, I cursed the fact that I do not have TC, on e-mail. But I knew one of the cavalry would know how to raise her. Well done Mars.

Then TC posted about LotBags and I knew all would be well.TC you bugger you made me cry, beautifully written as always.

MountainGoat, You will get lots of support here.

Anyone remember when LotBags walked in the classroom ?? The whole of MN had the flags out.

I am delighted that you found MN.

maximummummy · 02/11/2007 00:37

congratulations on the birth of your baby - this thread has me with tears pouring down my face but mainly because of thomcats beautiful post -
mountain goat it looks like there are many fantastic people to support you and inspire you on mumsnet - sounds like you are doing a great job of coming to terms with your situation - don't know what else to say

RoyKinnear · 02/11/2007 01:00

congratulations on the birth of your Princess MountainGoat and welcome to Mumsnet!

eidsvold · 02/11/2007 03:00

right - dd2 and 3 having a sleep - some time to post.

As someone else said - we basically knew antenatally that dd1 would have down syndrome. We also knew this was our babe and she would be born - we would deal with the rest when the time came iyswim.

We learnt at 20 weeks antenatally that she had a heart defect that was very very common to children with down syndrome. We were in fact told that it would be very very rare for her to be born with the heart defect and without ds.

Knowing beforehand and making the decision to have dd1 does not mean there were no tears, grief etc. We had her down syndrome confirmed in a very poor way - dragged into a corridor in SCBU where dd1 was in intensive care, a registrar shoved a piece of paper under my nose, tapped it, nodded at me and then shut the folder again. Dh could not see a thing.

I can tell you - I wept - like I had never wept before - even antenatally I was not upset as I was at this point in time. However it could have also been the day 3 or 4 hormonal crash that comes post birth. I wept for my babe who would face a world that would never see her as 'perfect' although to us she was perfect, I wept for the imagined slights and hurts she would suffer, I wept thinking I would never be a good enough mum for this wee thing. I thought I was too selfish, impatient, weak and would expect more than she was able to give.

Boy was I wrong - but enough about me. She has overcome things that just amaze me. At 8 weeks old and just 8lbs she had two open heart surgeries a couple of days apart. She fought back from a rocky recovery and to look at her now, unless you see the scar you would not know.

She is gradually reaching her milestones - she seems to take a little while but each new skill grasped/learnt is another cause for celebration just as it is for her two sisters.

At 5, here in Australia she attends a mainstream kindergarten and is off to mainstream school next year. She also attends a special needs unit and that will be part time next year transitioning to full time mainstream. She attends swimming lessons which she adores - she is my water baby.

She is mastering the flying fox at the local park, as well as climbing like a monkey with no fear whilst I sit with my heart in my mouth - learning to sit back and give her space. She was almost 3 when she learnt to walk now - she runs - anywhere and everywhere I always joked she was my olympian swimmer, I am revising that dream to her being my olympian sprinter!!!

She is the funniest thing - she has a wicked sense of humour and a laugh that comes from her boots - she wishes no ill towards others despite it being displayed to her. She relishes seeing other people - outings are to her adventures to meet other people and learn about them.

We have met so many amazing people because of dd1 and the fact that she has down syndrome. We have had amazing experiences - both trying and elating.

She is an important part of our family - her two younger sisters adore her. To dd2 - all she wants to be when she is bigger - is dd1. Dd2 does not see anything wrong with the fact that she is toilet trained and we are still working on it with dd1, she does not see that dd1 is not as verbal as she is - to her dd1 is her partner in crime, her mate, her darlin ( as she sometimes calls her). Dd1 in turn adores her two sisters. Earlier in the year we had a babe and dd1 was beside herself - she did nothing but talk about the babe at sn and mainstream kindy and to anyone that even looked sideways at dd3 in public.

As to how you cope - one foot in front of the other, one day to the next - I work on the stage I am at and then we work on our progression. For me that is how I 'cope' but to be honest yes there are some issues but as a babe - she was much easier than dd2 in terms of day to day care. Even now she is less demanding in a lot of ways than dd2. I know some parents cope by looking long term and getting that sorted BUT that is not me. I work on the here and now. I get through today and then work on tomorrow.

As I said in my earlier post - this sadness is normal - BUT that subsides and the love for and bond you have with this babe will take over - you will be besotted as we all are with our babes.

I knew when dd1 was born my life would never be the same - and you know what - I was right - I feel so blessed to have my three beautiful girls and the privilege to be dd1's mother - even when she is stomping her foot and telling she does not want to clean her teeth .

You will dream new dreams and very shortly you will reach a point where you cannot imagine life without your dd.

eidsvold · 02/11/2007 03:01

oh gosh - sorry for the message of epic proportions.

Hope it helps.

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ScummyMummy · 02/11/2007 06:22

Congratulations on your lovely daughter, mountaingoat.
There are some fantastic posts on here, I think. Hope some of them help and that just being with your daughter over time helps- that seems to be the theme, doesn't it? That it's raw and terrible and wonderful at birth but that gradually the wonderful emerges strongest while the raw and terrible fade into tackling everyday difficulties. Kind of like parenting plus plus plus, maybe. Lots of love and sympathies and congratulations.

Hekate · 02/11/2007 06:57

Congratulations on the birth of your daughter and welcome to mumsnet. I don't have any experience of DS, my specialist subject is autism . I love the Holland thing, so true.

All will be well. Take care. xxxxxx

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notnowbernard · 02/11/2007 10:43

Congratulations Mountaingoat

What a beautiful thread.

excitedm2b · 02/11/2007 10:47

Mountaingoat, congratulations on the birth of your wonderful daughter.
I have no knowledge of special needs but just wanted to say what an inspirational read this whole post is (although I am now sitting at work in tears, thank you Eidsvold and Thomcat!). Best of luck to you and your family, mountaingoat, and I am glad that you are getting lots of support from friends, family, the NHS and of course mumsnetters who can really appreciate what you are going through. It sounds to me like you are coping with this extremely well.

WitchTwoOh · 02/11/2007 15:34

oh god you lot make me cry... mountaingoat you are clearly in good company here. just imagine, maybe in a while you'll be writing posts like the ones we've all just read? in time, though, no pressure...

FoghornLeghorn · 02/11/2007 15:49

Do you know what TC, I think I love you . You really are fantastic and the love you feel for your gorgeous little lady Lottie (other 2 also) just oozes through your posts.
Congratulations on your lovely baby girl Mountaingoat

kittylouise · 02/11/2007 15:50

Congratulations Mountaingoat on the birth of your daughter, and the best of luck with everything. I am sure you will find a lot of support on this thread.

This thread is marvellous. So many of the posts are so moving and supportive. Has made me cry, and I'm a tough old boot really

Thomcat · 02/11/2007 18:59

Hi MG - just checking in to see how you are doing. TC x

thelittleElf · 02/11/2007 23:00

How you doing moutaingoat x

Clary · 02/11/2007 23:53

mountain goat first of all congratulations on your lovely DD.

Some lovely posts on here esp TC and eidsvold.

My sister had a baby girl with Down's after a low-risk nuchal scan. Yes I remember (even at second hand) those feelings - the shock when I heard the news, feeling it was unfair, but then rushing down to see this lovely girl (bearing my own baby NT DS1). How she has lit up their lives and ours too.

Your baby is who she is and that's how she will succeed in bringing you so much joy, I am sure.

Agree with others, grab all the help you can, portage, physio etc. What I never realised is that tho a child has or does not have Down's, the degree of special needs will vary.

FWIW my niece (now 8) goes to mainstream school where she has learned to read so well. She walked at 20mo IIRC, signed and then started speaking really well once she had grommets fitted, and was frankly just the easiest baby and toddler in so many ways.

Wishing you all the joy in the world.

anniebear · 03/11/2007 06:57

Thomacat

I should know by now to have tissues ready when I read your posts!

they are so lovely

mountaingoat

Many congratulations on the birth of your precious daughter