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Incredibly stubborn DD with ASD (and possibly a little bit of PDA). Advice around uncooperative behaviour in school.

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craftyoldhen · 08/03/2017 22:56

DD has ASD. She is INCREDIBLY STUBBORN.

You can't tell her anything, you can't help her with anything, you can't give her advice, you can't get her to do something she doesn't want to do. Not for all the pokemon cards in England.

She will not budge, she is unmoveable. She will argue, she will cry, she will scream and growl until you give in. And everyone always gives in eventually.

Her uncooperative behaviour in school is getting worse. She refuses to do certain pieces of work or work with certain children. She refuses to acknowledge half the class (she totally blanks them).

Yesterday was parents evening. Her teacher told me that, amongst other things, DD refuses to correct her spelling mistakes because "they're not wrong" (they are). The teacher asks her to correct them, and then write them in her spelling book, but she won't. She just argues that they're not wrong, despite all the evidence to the contrary. When she argues she is rude - no rude language or anything but just lack of respect for a teacher type rude.

Apart from this DD is a quiet, bright, studious child. She doesn't get into trouble for her uncooperative behaviour or rudensss as it's seen to be part of her ASD. The teacher looked like she was at a loss TBH.

I'm not sure that letting DDs behaviour go unchallenged (or untreated) like this is the right thing to do.
I also know that punishing her really won't help either.
What's the advice for children like this?

Autism outreach have been involved but she wasn't helpful. She didn't seem to 'get' DD. She told the teacher to give DD a choice between 2 activities to help her feel like she was in control, but her teacher said DD would just refuse to do either of them. Other than that she just suggests visual timetables that don't help DD.

She's also in year 5 so I need to think about secondary schools this year. There is absolutely no way she will get away with this behaviour in secondary school is there? Sad

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FrayedHem · 16/03/2017 16:40

DS1 says it's all written in black and blurs. I think I need to get his eyes tested as well.

It's all kicked off quite spectacularly with school. I started typing out my own thread but it's all so ridiculous I called Troll halfway through Grin

Userone1 · 16/03/2017 16:55

Frayed, it wouldn't hurt school to experiment with a few colours on a board, it takes about 2 mins!

Most threads on the SN board digress, we mostly share a lot of difficulties, so it's not really digressing!

FrayedHem · 16/03/2017 17:38

They honestly claim not to be able to do anything like that without getting some outside support. But when outside support come in, they hear what they want and ignore the rest.

My cheeks still burn with shame at being politely but most definitely shooed off a SN thread when I was an original Newbie 8 years ago.

But a very long story short, my husband went in to see the Head today as the class teacher got quite intimidating both verbally and physically towards me(!). Head was very good so a huge step forward for DS1, but I do feel a bit silly and weak.

lougle · 17/03/2017 07:33

Frayed do get his eyes checked. Have you ever tried coloured overlays (coloured bits of plastic on top of the paper)? Does he find it easier to read if the text is printed on a different colour paper?

FrayedHem · 17/03/2017 12:39

Thanks lougle. I'll definitely get an opticians booked and I'll order some colour overlays. I feel awful it hadn't occurred to me before this thread I should get some basic checks, rather than just try and tackle the teaching issues.

lougle · 17/03/2017 12:44

Why do you feel awful? Why is it that we have to become experts just to get basic provision for our children? Don't start feeling guilty!

FrayedHem · 17/03/2017 13:05

Just if the unacceptable rudeness is actually awkwardness because he can't see properly but hasn't said. I should have got him a routine check by now and he might have been getting in trouble when I could have solved it. Although I'm jumping the gun slightly as he's not been to the opticians yet.

Around Christmas he said his voice sounded funny in his head. When the GP checked his ears, he had 1 live nasty infection and the other had obviously had one as full of mucus. I hadn't exactly rushed him there, so I should know a bit better really.

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