So, what cuts would you make to SEN provision?

[StarlightMcKenzie]

In light of the Wirral report and the suggestion that the parents they interviewed were 'pioneers', innovative, open to change, outcome-focussed etc. and of these parents a total of 4% listened to the SEN team for advice etc... I was wondering if it would be possible and indeed desirable, to make whole SEN departments 'Big Community' run.

By that I mean, take said innovative open-minded outcome-focussed parents and get them to run the departments in their entirety. Ask them to get better outcomes for the same money. Ask them to get better outcomes for less money in fact.

I am utterly utterly convinced that it could and WOULD be done.

Of course, the reports may well be ignored. Which would mean it's just one more layer of admin nonsense. But it'd be good if an outsider could give coherent descriptions of the good, the bad and the ugly, and have it acted on.

Especially if it replaced a load of pointless targets (or worse: endless 'dashboards' with 'KPI metrics' and 'strategic priority pathway compliance parameters'). Ah well dream on

endless 'dashboards' with 'KPI metrics' and 'strategic priority pathway compliance parameters'

Blimey, I haven't had the misfortune to hear these buttock clenchingly awful terms yet. No doubt will do very soon.

See star, that kind of crap is like Japanese knotweed. Starts as a small problem then some idiot stirs it up and now it's invading everywhere.

You need an alternative professional trail that'll tick the boxes and write in the red book without sending you bonkers. A generic children centre worker might do.

Dc3 isn't taking much, shall I come to toddler group weekly? Yes
And sing to him, nursery rhymes, gestures?
Yes
Oh good, thanks so much, would you write it in red book so I remember what to do...

It Isn't working, should I do what it says in ICAN leaflet?
Yes
Oh good, write.....

Still not working, shall I call ICAN helpline and get 30 min advice off a speech therapist?
Yes
Will I do what she tells me
Yes
Oh good, write it jn the red book so I don't forget....

In what kind of world could those terms be anything other than comic?

let me at em!

I used to write KPI's and do programme audits etc for everything from utility companies to booze manufacturers. I could produce a power point dashboard that was meaningful for the cost of tea and cake rather than the millions currently being spent on Stalin style statistics - it wouldn't take longer than half an hour either!

Council for disabled children - cut ALL government funding for these grabby jokers who did all they could to avoid parental concerns over EHCP's while masquerading as our representatives and were duly rewarded with millions to run the parental supporters job creation scheme. I regard the 30 million bribe for parental supporters to mislead us through the new system as 30 million directly stolen from the mouths of the babes that need it.

You can write your own public service pretending to be a corporate giant BS here

Boch, I wish!

The collection and misuse of irrelevant surrogate end-points is (IMO anyway) directly and causatively linked to the shocking decrease in mainstream SEN support. Even more so than 'resources'.

Teachers are overloaded with performance management crap that has almost nothing to do with teaching or learning. And they perceive our dc as making them more likely to fall foul of the 'measurers'. Which may well be true

The reception child height& weight project.
Takes up most of school nurse service's time & budget.
To tell us UK kids are getting a bit fatter over time.

A small-sample survey every 3 years. could've done that. No need for an annual census of the entire 5yo population.

Same as the reception phonics check. Yes, check the dc have learned it. But as you go along, in preparation for the next bit. Completely pointless having an extra national exam

As a Governor I can see that our kids as provided for by the current system are a whole-sale pita to have on roll.

Teachers have been sold a lie about what they can be expected to achieve with NO training and NO resources. Failure of their achievement is increasingly labeled as a personal failure and their only defence is that the child is unteachable. Any parent presenting evidence to the contrary is dangerous. On top of the other demands they would rather the kids and their parents move elsewhere.

Maria,

I'm with this unattractive, unpopular GP Surgery (only one who would take us urgently when we moved) who just so happens to be staffed by the BEST Listening GPs I have ever had (and a bunch of locums and students). I'm happy checking in with them now and then re Ds.

Our dc are a pita for schools. They're often quite hard to teach, and the results may not be fab. But that's tough.

Very sick ppl are a pita for hospitals, hard-core criminals are a pita for police, families with multiple and deep-seated issues are a pita for social workers, long-term unemployed ppl are a pita for job centres.

The people who need 'more' of what you do, are not 'less' entitled to it. They're not an undeserving inconvenience. They're the whole point of you going to work. Those patients who might get better if ignored, the criminals about to go straight, the families getting over a bit of a bad time, the person switching jobs.... they're not the ones who actually require the services. A preference for 'easy' clients is bogus.

Bet that's why your surgery is unpopular. The Beautiful People with BUPA cover might have to sit next to an addict, or wait ages while the nearly-dead lung disease lady gets sorted.

Yes but policing was originally set up TO tackle criminals, hospitals (NHS) set up TO help poorly. Education was set up for typical children, not ours, and there is resentment in the system at having to change.

Bet ds wd've done better in victorian schooling

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