how often does the Salt see your DC (severe s&l delay/disorder)

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Dd gets seen only once a term for about 30 mins. She attends a MS school. her S&L is under first percentile.

I wondered what others in similar circumstances get. Dd's main dx is asd.

Ditto

ds is only 3, so only at preschool - he is completely non verbal, he last saw his therapist in March, and I have just been told he will next be seen in September.

Out of interest, at what age do they start mentioning percentiles? Ds has never been given one.

DS remains on the 6th and 9th percentile and hasnt seen anyone since January

S&lt will be visiting next month so all good here

I thought i live in a dersert of Salt provision but clearly not :(

Senior SALT about once termly. Assistant currently every couple of weeks.

Hazey we were given percentiles after specific assessment tests were done with Ds for his school entry plan.

It was a bit pointless considering there are no follow ups and nobody making sure the school are implementing the plan which they most definitely are not.

Ds is slowly but surely slipping through the net but not to worry, he doesnt bother anyone else so he can be left to it

Thankyou, I'm writing a rant letter to ds's SALT to request a more indepth assessment and report than the one she just emailed us, and I am realising as I write it that I have no real idea of what to expect from the speech and language service (although I'm pretty sure it is a damn sight more than we've been getting!)

If it makes you feel any better we only got the NHS Speech and language team to do the proper assessment by bullying them and backing them into a corner after they said Ds was going to be signed off

We got a private S&lt to do some heavy assessments then slapped them on the table at his annual review with everyone in the room. They couldnt do the same tests but had to do a different batch which gave the official percentiles. How dare anyone say he will manage when they didnt even know what his levels were.

S&lt was reinstated if you can call the hit and miss service we get Speech and language therapy!

Its all one big battle where we are unfortunately.

Ds used to get 6 visits times a year.

Then I got a private assessment and appealed to Sendist and he now gets half an hour a week plus 2 social interaction sessions per week. He is now in a unit but many there do not get the half an hour as their statement is not sufficiently quantified.

And ds has made good progress and is closing the gap despite the old SALT's prediction that he will fall further behind and therefore more SALT will not be an efficient use of funds.

Sorry for grammatical errors above.

Also the half hour weekly sessions are conducted by Senior Salt and ds went from under first percentile to 4 percentile the first 12 months.

About an hour every term. We do intensive sessions from time to time, where we get an hour a week for four weeks. I think she's getting more from intensive Meg and Mog videos to be honest.

Mind you, they could be going in more often, as I only find out they've been in if DD's teacher happens to mention it. They introduced colourful semantics last term - didn't bother telling us though, or explaining how to use it. After all, she's only at home for 21 hours a day,

ds sees a SALT once a week - but he is at a specialist ASD school. Before that he'd have a block of weekly sessions for about month, then nothing for the next 6 months. So 6-8 sessions a year. If had gone into MS provision he would have had 12 sessions a year. It was one of the deciding factors for us, when it came to choosing his school.

We had a good SALT service for our ds andbalthough school-level implementation was a joke we were always copied in to the targets and, more importantly, the strategies they gave. No harm in contacting them or the school direct to get a copy so you can put it into place at home as well.

that's just awful, zzzzz

how do they justify the signing off?

Dd1 goes to special school and has a s&l group session led by SALT once per fortnight, then the class staff use the programme through the fortnight until the next session. It works well.

Ds (1st centile) was seen briefly (10 mins) for assessment once a term from 4 to 6.
Then we went for a statement on language grounds (he had undiagnosed SLD and ASD but that's another story), and it changed to twice a term within his new sn school (most children ASD) with teachers advised on how best to support him in the classroom. It all stopped at 9 again, but as still in ss benefitted from teachers knowledge. He had direct 1:1 Slt fortnightly in year 4 for just a year at ss with a weekly social skills class. I do not think he would have got that without considerable parental pressure!

If language is under the qualifying first centile could you apply for a statement on SLT grounds? In my limited experience statemented children get slightly better Slt provision.

Ds was discharged from SLT each time because his vocabulary it above the 1st centile - often a relative strength in children on the spectrum. It doesn't mean his understanding of language and the complex use of it as opposed to isolated words is yet functional. Grr! Perhaps we are in the same county zzz!

Sorry cross posted. Well it used to be that 1% of children roughly were statemented, so it could be argued that children whose abilities in important areas such as language or learning (ds is both) who were on or below the 1st centile could argue for a statement on those grounds. That is how ds was eventually accepted for a SA. We all knew that speech and language was only part of the picture but our LEA was/is notorious for ignoring children. Once they did the SA his LD became obvious to the LEA who had turned him down saying he did not have LD on earlier occasions. He was diagnosed with autism (LF) just after the statement was finalised. It was fully expected. The magic first centile got the LEA to agree to a SA.
I am thankful to the Salt who found that chink through the LEAs armour to start getting some support for ds!!

oh, DD has a statement. the once per term is what we get through the statement. just wondered how good (or rather bad) that was

My nearly 5 yr old (goes into year 1 in September) in MS is visited by a SALT once per term. That's it.
They advise and rely on the teachers to implement their suggestions.
Totally shit and inadequate. DD has very severe speech delay and is on a long waiting list (finally) for a much needed ASD assessment.
It breaks my heart that we can't afford to provide her with private at least weekly therapy.

BTW we've been advised by the paed and school that she is unlikely qualify for a statement.
I have never been advised what percentile she is for speech. It has however been suggested that she has a 2 year developmental delay/disability.

Your SALT used a very clever tactic, even if it is not particularly logical, based on the fact that not all statements are given for s&l needs (many are given for learning difficulties, physical impairment etc). 'Magic 1%' sounds like an [illlegal] blanket policy. In which case your SALT beat the LA at their own game! (awesome!) But can't be applied as a 'general rule'.