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Great SEN phrases of all time

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MareeyaDolores · 06/04/2013 20:19

I want a nice list of those statements that rattle around my head, and hopefully someone else will post a reminder of the hall-of-fame quotes I've forgotten. Will add the author and date if I know (and please correct me if need be, or if two people have hatched the same great idea)

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Don't waste valuable time assuming competent folk have it all under control. They probably don't.

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Badvoc · 08/04/2013 14:30

HT: we are a dyslexia friendly school
Me: what doe that mean exactly?
HT:erm........

moondog · 08/04/2013 19:06

Loving the vague slogans

'The SEN industry: working hard to be vague for you'

Star, regarding the 'no time to take data' bollocks, the great Janet Twyman said something that really stuck with me in her workshop on the last day of EABG.

'If it's important enough to teach, it's important enough to take data on it'

So obvious yet so clearly and simply put.

TheTimeTravellersWife · 08/04/2013 19:32

I think that this one may have come from Starlight, but it described a parent attending at meeting at which:

Someone was going to open a file, another was going to write a report and another was going to send a referral, but not one "professional" attending was going to do anything that would actually help the child!

moondog · 08/04/2013 19:40

In the smae vein, Star wrote a great post (one of her many) which I saved and look at often.

I remember by first multi-agency ?Team around the Child? meeting. I was there, humble, hopeful, scared, on the verge of tears, desperate. It sounded great. This person was going to 'advise', that person was going to 'refer', another person was going to 'monitor' and another going to send ds's case to a 'panel', and someone else was going to send his case to a 'board'. Yet another person was going to put together a 'programme' and someone else was going to 'assess'. We were going to get 'support' and my son was to get 'therapy'. Someone else was going to 'investigate' the 'opportunities' that our LEA had for children such as my son, and someone else was going to 'liaise' with us.

A couple of months later and I realised that some if not ALL of the above was happening in terms of moving funds and delegating money to people's case-loads, but yet not one single OUTCOME had occured for my son.

In fact we hardly saw anyone, they were all busy referring, and investigating and writing programmes or whatever.

I hung around here a bit complaining and apologising and thinking ' Oh, he's only little, we have lots of time'.

AgnesDiPesto · 08/04/2013 20:55

This is a nice blog by Stephen Neary's father. Moondog I think you might like it. One of his recent blog posts was headed "Hubs, Inclusion Champions and other shit like that"...

I receive regular updates of the development of my local Parents/Carers Reference Group, which is made up of several social care professionals and parents and carers. I think it is an offshoot of the Learning Disabilities Partnership Board. The minutes of the meetings are fascinating and there are three things that strike me; in the current climate of hubs that go straight to the hub of where everything in social care is severely askew.

Firstly, I am constantly amazed at how the system feeds itself and churns out puffed up, self serving posts that are incomprehensible to anyone outside the system. Some of the professionals sitting on the partnership board include: An Inclusion Community Support Pilot manager; A Disabilities Introducer; Various Champions; and whole teams for everything (?The Changing Places Team?). I find myself wondering how all these posts are funded; at every meeting a new post seems to have emerged. When the subtext of these meetings is about cuts and the service user losing out on something, it galls to see a new robot champion in post. I wonder how much of the money that should be going towards the service user or their carers is siphoned off to keep these teams expanding. How much of the local authority?s carer?s grant is used to fund a team of carer?s champions?

I can see, how on paper, these jobs look like great innovations; opening doors for the service user. But as these meetings demonstrate, they do the exact opposite ? they are not door openers; they are gatekeepers providing a security camouflage for the fact that the door leads to a great big vast empty room. One carer asks whether the changing facilities at one of the new hubs will be suitably equipped and is told that her concerns will be flagged up with the Changing Places Team for consideration and assessment. A reasonable, straight forward question is gobbled up by a machine, screaming: ?Feed me. Feed me?.

That leads me to the second issue; how we find ourselves talking about things that we?re not talking about. What do I mean? Try and imagine this unlikely scenario that would never happen in a month of Sundays (!!). All the day centres are closing down and the alternative offered to the service user is a hub. One of these hubs is one of the local swimming pools. I (in my role as a member of the partnership board) am asking the professionals how my daughter will be able to continue her cooking that she has done at the day centre for the past ten years. She loves preparing her evening meal whilst she?s there and it?s in her person centred plan. After raising my question, I find myself talking about a hub! How did that happen? And I?m a bit confused because it sounds like a swimming pool but they keep refering to it as a hub. From the way they are talking I can see that they consider a hub to be better for the service user than a day centre. But is a swimming pool better than a day centre? It all depends on whether you want to have a swim or make a cottage pie. Cookery in a non existant day centre is a vexed subject; so is meal preperation at the swimming baths. The choice and flexibility of a hub is much safer ground for the professionals on the board.

The last aspect of the Partnership Board that strikes me is that there is absolutely no sense of partnership whatsoever. Broadly speaking, two things happen at board meetings; the professionals pass on decisions that have already been made (e.g. The planning committee have approved the closure of the day centres). The lay members of the board are presented with a fait accompli. And secondly, the professionals take questions from the parents/carers and feed them back into the system (?This will be addressed by the Transformation Team?). At no point, do the professionals ask any questions of the carers. I?ve never once read the professionals seeking ideas or opinions from the floor. So, not only does the gatekeepers protect the camoulflage but they also pacify anyone seeking entry into the room. Because, at all times, access to the room must be prevented because if you cross the threshold, you?ll discover that there is absolutely nothing inside. It has been mined from within.

One final observation, and I?m hoping that I?m wrong in this, but it seems to me that there wasn?t a single service user present on the partnership board.

Where do we go with all of this? I don?t know. For me, it is one of the biggest challenges of modern living: how something that is presented as open and transparent and good for you is actually a complicated, impenetrable camouflage to a huge gaping void.

moondog · 08/04/2013 21:54

Ah Agnes, that is great.
Well it's not, it's dire but you know what I mean.
PCTs are packed full of 'champions'. It leaves me slack jawed with astonihment because surely it is a redundant moniker. If we are not 'champions' of the people we are paid to serve already, what is the point? Thus the label and post should be redundant by definition and yet if that is what is needed, what in God's name are the rest of the parasitic SEN army doing?

I've saved that blog to favourites and it gives me a chance to air (yet again) my goved Parkinson's Laws.

Parkinson's First Law: Work expands to fill the time available.
Parkinson's Second Law: Expenditures rise to meet income.
Parkinson's Third Law: Expansion means complexity; and complexity decay.
Parkinson's Fourth Law: The number of people in any working group tends to increase regardless of the amount of work to be done.
Parkinson's Fifth Law: If there is a way to delay an important decision the good bureaucracy, public or private, will find it.
Parkinson's Law of Science: The progress of science varies inversely with the number of journals published.
Parkinson's Law of Delay: Delay is the deadliest form of denial.
Parkinson's Law of Data: Data expands to fill the space available.
Parkinson's Law of Meetings: The time spent in a meeting on an item is inversely proportional to its value (up to a limit).
Parkinson's Law of 1000: An enterprise employing more than 1000 people becomes a self-perpetuating empire, creating so much internal work that it no longer needs any contact with the outside world.

moondog · 08/04/2013 21:55

And sorry, Star, cocked up the Twyman quote (was distracted by various school related chores)

'If it's important enough to teach, it's important enough to measure'

sickofsocalledexperts · 09/04/2013 10:03

Gosh, this is an insightful thread. I wonder if we learn their language, we could turn the jargon against them?

So, I could become a "service user champion" and suggest an alternative "hub strategy" for Agnes' post (ie keeping the day centre open)

Or would they always win the battle of the jargon?

In my previous career we used to call the legal team the " customer stisfaction prevention officers"

These people are the "SEN service avoidance operatives"

lougle · 09/04/2013 10:10

Refreshingly, my DD1's HT:

"Oh yes, it's clear that DD1 will need low-distraction work tables.'

Me, having seen schools with 'rooms' for SEN:

"Oh right...which classrooms have those tables? Where would she go?"

HT:

"Tables move - they'll come to her."

lougle · 09/04/2013 10:12

Similarly:

"One of the biggest mistakes is to assume that learning difficulties mean stupid. There are no flies on any of the children at this school!"

That woman is a maverick and she doesn't even know it.

moondog · 09/04/2013 10:15

People use this jargon because they are frightened.
They don't know how to tackle these problems logically so they hide behind this meaningless language.

If they are not afraid, they are defensive.
Often they are both.

Badvoc · 09/04/2013 10:17

She sounds amazing Lougle.
So happy for your dd and you.

maxsanta · 09/04/2013 20:11

Agnes - that is a fantastic quote. The last sentence completely sums up my dealings with my LA.

NoHaudinMaWheest · 09/04/2013 20:21

One of the professionals dealing with Ds is a past master at the vague meaningless comment.
A newer member of the team (who is also new to the SEN industry) is brilliant at challenging her. 'Sorry I don't know what you mean by that.'
Cue squirming and (some) clarification. Makes it easier for me to challenge her too.
Hope the new worker doesn't get sucked into the industry norms.

MareeyaDolores · 09/04/2013 22:01

Nonsense generation algorithm

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MareeyaDolores · 09/04/2013 22:02

Education version

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MareeyaDolores · 09/04/2013 22:02

Biomedical interventions version

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MareeyaDolores · 09/04/2013 22:05

NHS jargon buster (this one is actually pretty useful, so save it, it'll probably disappear with the reforms changes cuts national rollout of essential cutomer-focussed NHS improvements

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MareeyaDolores · 09/04/2013 22:06

Blush jargon buster

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MareeyaDolores · 09/04/2013 22:08

and some common sense from a camhs person

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StarlightMcKenzie · 09/04/2013 22:17

I tried the education one.

I got:

revolutionize performance-based differentiated lessons

I might write a letter to my old LA with this stuff asking for a response within 14 days.

StarlightMcKenzie · 09/04/2013 22:19

'recontextualize inquiry-centered professional learning communities'

and excellent 'Grow undefined networks'

MareeyaDolores · 17/04/2013 15:18

"When someone offloads onto you
the correct response is to lob that ball straight back,
while painting a lovely picture with emails for your possible tribunal etc"

today, will link the thread

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MareeyaDolores · 17/04/2013 15:19

zzzz School Trip -how do I respond?

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insanityscratching · 17/04/2013 17:05

"If you show a child the same thing a hundred times and he still doesn't understand it......it's not the child who is stupid" no idea where I heard it but I repeat it when needed.