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Do NT children also do sideways glancing?

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TepidCoffee · 11/02/2013 18:15

Just that really. DS has been doing it a lot over the past couple of days - he's 27 months.

He's very fond of spinning things but apart from that (if that's not just part of normal development, which it might be), he seems to be developing as expected. Speech was late (almost nothing till 24 months) but now uses 2-3 words sentences, lots of eye contact, interested in other children etc.

Not too great with imaginative play as he prefers physical play but will eg feed a teddy, scan his toy shopping if encouraged.

I have a history of anxiety issues so may be completely over thinking things...

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Snowstorm · 13/02/2013 10:23

DD1 who has a friend who watches TV sideways. I didn't even realise she did it until I was looking at a photo of them all on the sofa during a birthday sleepover. It looked as though she was watching a bit in the film that made her anxious but apparently it's just a habit of hers. She's 10 years old, NT (if that's the right expression) and doesn't need or wear glasses.

Trigglesx · 13/02/2013 13:52

DS2 does this - it really became much more frequent when he started school.

DS3 does it occasionally.

I read somewhere (sorry, can't find link) that because there are more colour cones in the centre of the eye (and thus less on the outer sides), that children with sensory problems/ASD sometimes do the sideways glancing/looking because less colour cones = less input, so when they're already overloaded, it's less overwhelming. Not a clue if that's accurate or not, but it's interesting, anyway.

ScientificResearch1 · 14/11/2014 22:28

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ScientificResearch1 · 15/11/2014 00:35

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Jasonandyawegunorts · 15/11/2014 08:31

ScientificResearch1
What research have you really done?
could i see reference, links and sources?
From books, scholars, published papers, courses?

I'd like to know your degree or station
where are you from, your education?
these facts above which you Propose
How have you come to diagnose?

DownByTheRiverside · 15/11/2014 08:35

Here's my best guess

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AliceDoesntLiveHereAnymore · 15/11/2014 08:36

When was it, the 80s perhaps, that they had the ridiculous refrigerator mums nonsense? SR kindly do us all a favour and step into your Tardis and return to the 80s, there's a dear.

Dragging up threads that are over a year old just to make patronising and frankly offensive comments to someone that was simply trying to get some help for her child shows that you have a questionable level of mental health IMO. Seek some help - you obviously have some issues.

AliceDoesntLiveHereAnymore · 15/11/2014 08:38

now now Down ... just because SR is clearly a hamburger short of a happy meal, that's no reason to imply he's American. Also other than that, I fully agree with the image. Grin

Jasonandyawegunorts · 15/11/2014 08:39

Alice He / she used "mom"

AliceDoesntLiveHereAnymore · 15/11/2014 08:45

So do some areas in the north of England. That particular discussion has been had many times on MN - but I think more in chat and AIBU, so you may not have seen it.

StarlightMcKenzie · 15/11/2014 08:47

Most mums on the internet are searching for specific strategies for specific problems and only use a diagnosis to lever help where that help is conditional upon diagnosis.

I've not met any parent, ever, who has a child with autism and pathologises their child's typical behaviours. They understand their children have substantial 'other' problems thar require quite enough of their energies to work on.

The internet is more reliable for support with this quite frankly than any professional service with diluted funds and morale.

StarlightMcKenzie · 15/11/2014 08:48

Nice poem J

fanjoforthemammaries7850 · 15/11/2014 08:54

Wow. How utterly rude.

DownByTheRiverside · 15/11/2014 09:09

I've taught NT children who found it hard to make eye-contact and did sideways glancing.
Sometimes it was because they were shy, sometimes they came from very dominant/abusive homes where direct eye-contact was a challene that resulted in a negative consequence for a child. Many were from cultural backgrounds that regarded eye conrtact with an older/superior individual as rude.
I've never been to the USA, so I've no idea if
'You would think that half of the entire U.S. population is on the autism spectrum considering how literal everyone takes these things.' is accurate or not.
But the grammar is very American.

AliceDoesntLiveHereAnymore · 15/11/2014 09:21

I don't really think it matters if the rude person is American or not. What matters is that they are rude and dragging up very old threads simply to create havoc. Their nationality is unimportant IMO.

DownByTheRiverside · 15/11/2014 09:27

No, I don't suppose it does. Except that some dubious practices and treatments for Autism have originated there and been peddled over here.
I agree that they've posted on the SN boards just to be a PITA though.

moosemama · 15/11/2014 09:30

You aren't the expert you seem to think you are research. Think you need to go back and do some more research.

For starters, Autism doesn't always present with a language delay, those who had or would have been diagnosed with Aspergers, do not have language delay. My own son was diagnosed with ASD by one of the UK's leading multi-disciplinary teams and had no language delay.

Why on earth you would want to uproot an ancient thread, other than to deliberately bait parents that, frankly, already have enough on their plates is beyond me. You will have been clearly able to see the MN warning about it being a zombie thread, so no chance this was accidental. Haven't you something better to do with your time?

AliceDoesntLiveHereAnymore · 15/11/2014 09:30

meh. Dubious is everywhere. Americans certainly don't have a stranglehold on it, although they certainly have their fair share. (and I am saying this because I am American and lived there for many years)

I would never move back there, because I have my issues with some of the politics and other things there, however, it does sometimes grate to see America/Americans get trashed regularly on MN - often based on supposition, rumours, and stereotypes. And get even more irritated to see MN stand by and allow it, when they would not allow it being done to other countries. Hmm

Oh well.

zzzzz · 15/11/2014 09:37

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Jasonandyawegunorts · 15/11/2014 09:41

Nice poem J

Why, thank you Mrs Star.

I find I can express myself better in poetry form.

StarlightMcKenzie · 15/11/2014 10:30

I agree that zzzzz's post was insightful. I also think as communication goes it was pretty spot on and shows considerable flair.

youarewinning · 15/11/2014 10:56

Personally I think the fact that zzzz could pick 1 word from the millions that occur within English Language to make far more of a statement than your diatribe did shows considerable communication abilities.

PolterGoose · 15/11/2014 10:58

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