Mumsnet/KIDS support session on challenging behaviour: Thursday September 20, 9pm

[RowanMumsnet]

Hello there,

We're pleased to announce that the third support session with members of KIDS staff will be held on Thursday September 20 between 9pm amd 10pm (in the hope that this will avoid most kids' bed-times!). The topic will be challenging behaviour. (You can see the first session here and the second session here.)

KIDS is a national charity working with disabled children, young people and their families across England. The KIDS representative at this session will be Kim Steele (KIDS Development Coordinator for the south-east).

The idea of these support sessions is to complement the advice and support that Special Needs posters already give each other with the insight and experience of people working for an organisation in the field. We hope that the session will pull together perspectives and advice from MNers and from KIDS staff, and that the thread will serve as a reference point for posters looking for advice about behaviour.

It would be great to have as many of you as possible join us 'live' on Thursday evening, but if you can't make it, please also post up any advance questions for here.

We'd really appreciate your feedback on these sessions, so if you can find the time to fill in a survey after the session, that would be great - it's open to lurkers as well as posters - to everyone who has seen the thread.

Thanks,
MNHQ

Unfortunatly the live chat has come to an end but we will try and respond to as many as the posts as we can over the next couple of days. Thank you for having us, we have had a lot of responses and we wish we could have answered all of your questions and in more depth. Thank you and goodnight

Thank you for the feedback

thank you this has been a very interesting web chat

Thank you Kim. And thanks Star as well

Thank you

Thanks very much to Kim and Heather, and to everyone who took part - we'll post up any follow-up answers over the next few days.

Sorry to push our link again but we'd be grateful for any responses to our feedback survey!

Night
MNHQ

and I didn't find out what you do when motivation, incentives, praise, redirection, rewards, de-escalation, social stories etc etc don't work!

Thanks anyway.

As an aside to this, does anyone have any recommendations for books that might be useful for children who demonstrate challenging behaviour but who are not (or probably not) on the autistic spectrum? EG children like the one Colditz has described on here already?

My DD flies into the most extreme rages over nothing, completely unable to control herself in some situations (has been likened by one of my friends to the girl in the Exorcist.....), but who aside from this is delightful, funny, sociable and doing very well at school (and is also clever enough to be very manipulative even at 6). None of the usual advice has worked to date, boundaries are firm, rewards and punishments are clearly understood (and followed through), and yet still it carries on, just as it has done from infancy (she had the same rages as a baby and as a toddler). The triggers are: not getting her way/being instructed to do something/being unable to do something.

I'm a bit stumped because she falls well beyond normal strong-willed behaviour but I haven't yet found any good recommendations for dealing with this (have spoken to two Ed Psychs but her behaviour is atypical, so they weren't really able to recommend anything other than keeping up with consistency on my part).

devientenigma - you've just summed it up far simpler than I did! That's exaclty it - what can you do?

yes but PDA strategies down't work most times too.

sorry hothead I was a bit impulsive.......what happens when you can't get a break?

DS is 2:1 care 24/7 and doesn't access school etc.

StillSquiffy - the explosive child is a useful book. Rather than trite 123 magic type stuff, it focuses on prevention and de-escalation - and having realistic expectations about what a child can cope with. (Something DH really struggles with sometimes when the kids are tag-teaming)

Thanks for recommendation...I have read that book cover to cover...