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appropriatelyemployed · 28/03/2012 15:40

You know when you think these people have hit a low beyond which they cannot fall?

It's never true is it?

I have been pursuing the LGO for info from DS's file. They relied on an exemption initially under s 31(4) of the DPA.

I challenged this and they have now released further info - redacted.

Most of it relates to my 'vexatious' determination last year and most of it we already have (and actually sent to the LGO) so why the hell where they refusing to disclose? Could it be they have not actually read the submissions we made?

Anyway, the delights within the documentation we hadn't seen where some astonishing allegations passed on second hand from redacted persons (presumably an Ed Officer to someone in their 'governance team') in support of a determination against me.

It is suggested that this person went to DS's old school for another unrelated matter and the WHOLE school and ALL the children were being affected by me and staff were planning to leave and staff could no longer do what they wanted in the classroom etc. This was turning a happy school into a sad school Sad

It's really outrageous, distressing stuff.

This outstanding school with a teacher who is a national leader in education couldn't apparently deal with it themselves by talking to me or by telling me that they knew what to do so I should butt out.

They had to sit on their sadness and cry to the LA - make the bad lady go away.

What a croc of shite!

Oh and then mention of SLT doing the same is made.

Oh and of course, it is then suggested that they MIGHT WANT TO RAISE THIS AT TRIBUNAL!!!

What a bunch of low life scum and what are the LGO doing covering for them?

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cornsilksit1 · 28/03/2012 15:42
Shock
tryingtokeepintune · 28/03/2012 16:51

That they lied is not surprising - at all.

That they would actually write it down and think someone/anyone would believe them or that it would not even be challenged just proves how much they can rely on each other to back up any claims without question.

tryingtokeepintune · 28/03/2012 16:54

Oh, they used exemption under s32(2) of the DPA to try restrict information when I made my request.

notparanoidiftheyreouttogetyou · 28/03/2012 17:42

Not surprising but still shit.

bochead · 28/03/2012 18:21
should make you chuckle.

My cynicism now knows no bounds after the corruption I've seen in my own neck of the woods. Found out recently why we lost our veggie plot - the Chair of Governors of my son's old school is a local councillor so I'm persona non-grata after complaining about the abuse he suffered. In other parts of the country heads have rolled for far less than the damage done to my son.

Disgust and contempt does not adequately describe how I feel about those who take the public's money and tell lies like you are having to endure. It's totally wrong. You get to a point where you cannot face taking another peek down the rabbit hole - it's just too full of maggots.

Just hold onto the fact that all you have ever asked for is that your child recieves the adequate education the tax payer assumes ALL children in the UK are entitled to.

appropriatelyemployed · 28/03/2012 19:53

Thanks for this. They are just outrageous but I think I am more alarmed that, having had sight of this crap, the LGO have just filed it and not thought to raise questions on it!

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WetAugust · 28/03/2012 20:00

Horrified AppEmp - bit not at all surprised. Saw sevral gut-wrenchingexamples during my own battles including a statement that they deliberately ignored DS's SENs on my instructions! WTF!!

You get to a point where you cannot face taking another peek down the rabbit hole - it's just too full of maggots.

So very true Boc.

Corruption comes in many forms, not just financial. I my opinion, these LAs are corrupt to the core and the LGO is their enabler.

appropriatelyemployed · 28/03/2012 20:09

I agree. The fact is that the LGO deliberately tried to conceal these emails for no good reason even though half of them are already in our possession.

They then disclose them when compelled and one in particular is so shocking that it beggars belief that the LGO did not pursue it.

It suggests that senior staff were about to walk out because of me and that ALL, yes ALL the staff and ALL the children in the school were adversely affected by me. All 250 kids.

It even says teachers were being forced to let DS 'do what he wanted' because of parental request????? This outstanding school with a bolshie national leader of education as head being forced by me against their will?

Well, if it were true, what would it say about them?

Then it has senior LA staff trying to advise school on how to brand me vexatious too e.g. call a Govs meeting, adopt a policy and then apply it to AE!

The LGO has just taken this on board and hidden it on their file. They've not thought to question the appropriateness of its contents, or asked whether any of what was being said was TRUE. They didn't address it when they approached school and school did not repeat these lies to the LGO.

In fact, there is no direct evidence from school, just emails from redacted people saying 'school have said.......'

They didn't ask - if she was so bad WHY DID NO ONE ASK HER TO STOP!

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WetAugust · 28/03/2012 20:19

So, what's the way forward?

You've hard evidence of very dodgy dealing - who can censure these bodies (if the LGO can't be arsed).

Complaint to the Dept of Education? MP? Press?

appropriatelyemployed · 28/03/2012 20:33

Well, I am still waiting for my solicitor to come back on the submissions I drafted 3 weeks ago. There are two other charities who have said they will consider adding their name to them when they are approved by her.

I will add these issues to it

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appropriatelyemployed · 28/03/2012 20:33

Maybe then the press will be interested?

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bochead · 28/03/2012 20:47

AE - could your child and family really handle the DM camped out on your doorstep at 6 am? Are you prepared for these lies to become public and for your neighbours reactions? (warning not all the local gossips will take your side).

Have you ANY skeletons in your closet (smoked dope or had a few one night stands at Uni/got parents who divorced/ a cousin who is a transvestite/ had a stand up row in the street with your hubby in 1983?).

The meeja can be a very sharp double-edged blade for the vulnerable and unsuspecting.

appropriatelyemployed · 28/03/2012 20:49

True - but I think getting anyone interested would be more the problem!

No one seems to give a toss about SEN or what local authorities do.

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appropriatelyemployed · 28/03/2012 20:51

Oh, meant to add, one interesting point was that they actually referenced the LGO's initial provisional judgment failing to find maladministration as EVIDENCE to be used against me in the vexatious determination.

I said to the LGO this is what green-lighted them and I was right.

Way to go LGO you useless bunch of wankers.

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StarlightDicKenzie · 28/03/2012 22:03

AE, I'm really not shocked at any of this but sad for you as I know how much it stings finding out about lies that you've been deliberately kept from and therefore kept from challenging.

I know there is more though, that a body out there that is supposed to protect you has been complicit and supported the justification for those lies being kept from you.

You would perhaps found some comfort (in a knowing it isn't just you way) if you had attended on Tuesday. These kinds of things were talked about freely and generally as if everyone accepted they were common practice. It made me feel a bit less vindicated/persecuted anyway.

appropriatelyemployed · 28/03/2012 22:12

It is a shame I missed that.

At least DS is in a decent school now.

Of course, LA didn't review vexatious decision as agreed at 6 months and I had to chase them.

They still failed to put his provision in place again

So this is all being added to the submissions.

We had our AR on Tues and the stupid Ed Officers contribution was limited to raising (off topic) our attempt to get direct payments which she had already written and said they didn't know anything about (despite the fact Fuckwit council is a pathfinder authority).

She said sneeringly 'does everyone know what you're doing'??

I said yes, school do and support it.

She then proceeded to babble on about why it's limited to social service payments (which it isn't) and how she didn't know anything about (so why raise it)

The fact that these sods take government money and don't even know what they're supposed to be doing with it is a bloody disgrace and I think worth a letter to the department of education!

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StarlightDicKenzie · 28/03/2012 22:21

Tbh it was still pretty shocking that so many people in a room were taking these things for granted. How did it get to that stage? Why has it never been challenged?

Those people weren't bystanders either. Many I knew (which surprised me) either by face, name or reputation.

And the DP thing I suspect is happening in most pathfinders. But then where are the criteria for success, for outcomes, for the parents and services to be 'researched'. What accountability?

appropriatelyemployed · 28/03/2012 22:42

Perhaps I should write to Michael Gove/Sarah Teather for an explanation of the purpose, scope and criteria for measuring outcomes??

No one else seems to know.

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WetAugust · 28/03/2012 23:53

Better writing to the Shadow Minister. The Opposition would love some ammo - the Governement would just bury it.

WetAugust · 28/03/2012 23:53

Argh too many 'e's in govt.

appropriatelyemployed · 28/03/2012 23:57

Good point!

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appropriatelyemployed · 29/03/2012 10:39

Also my vexatious ban was reviewed after 6 months as LA promised LGO and provision is not in place (as it wasn't last year) and the LA haven't been keeping records of meetings held with other agencies.

Apparently I can make new complaints about all that.

And on it goes......

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WetAugust · 29/03/2012 17:48

AE - have you ever contacted your Local Councillor or asked for a meeting with the coucillor Head of the Education Committee?

They may be completely ignorant of what's going on here and possibly even concerned. I know mine what when he found out what was happening in his Authority.

appropriatelyemployed · 29/03/2012 18:13

I did contact my councillor early on about the failure of the SEN Panel to record their decision-making. He complained and had a meeting with them.

They then used the fact that I had gone to the councillor as part of the vexatious evidence!

The head of the dept, I fear, is up to their neck in it and, again, complaining to the head of the dept is used as evidence of vexatiousness!

I should mention this to the councillor but it takes some explaining from scratch!

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WetAugust · 29/03/2012 18:20

I think you should explain it to your Councillor.

It's Councillors that oversee this (corrupt) system.

I expect he'd be keen to hear how exercising your democratic right to discuss matters with him has led to you being branded vexatious. Especially now you have hard evidence.