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Shocking method used at school!!

34 replies

makemineaquadruple · 10/11/2011 12:15

Afternoon all!

So i've had concerns that dd isn't mixing well at school and have done really ever since she started in january. I've asked several of her teachers on several occasions whether or not she has friends etc and they're reaction was always something like "yeah she's doing fine and she's mixing well". Dd kept telling me that nobody was playing with her and nobody liked her, but is rather dramatic and was going in school and coming out of school happy, which is very telling. However, at parents evening I brought it up again and her teacher told me that she's a bit of a loner and finds it hard to maintain friendshipsHmm. Obviously, I said that i'd mentioned it on several occasions and this wasn't what I was told and I got a reaction of a few nods and "oh right". So I wanted this to be monitored and she suggested that we met up a week later to discuss, which I thought was reassuring I suppose.

So a week later she bascially tells me the same thing and then brings out this list. Apparently at story time the teacher asked all the children "who here plays with x(dd)? who here likes(dd) x?" Shock There were a few other children on the list who also had this method used on them because their parents also had concerns about their dc's mixing and I know that they have SN or are being assessed. Talk about being singled out?!!

Am I over reacting? Or is this really out of order? Has anyone heard of this method?

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Walkinginwonderland · 10/11/2011 12:22

Wtf. Shock.

starfishmummy · 10/11/2011 12:48

Shock from me too.

TheNinjaGooseIsOnAMission · 10/11/2011 12:51

Shock I suppose it's easier than actually observing yourself Hmm

Sevenfold · 10/11/2011 12:54

omg that is horrid, I am an adult but would cry if someone did that to me

daisysue2 · 10/11/2011 12:54

Stupidity is unbelievable. She needs to set up a circle of friends and rota for playing with your DD, otherwise how will she ever learn about friendships. It's way too easy for the teachers to just leave them to get on with it. It takes an understanding and caring teacher understand the consequences of not implementing a structured playtime for children who struggle socially.

mycarscallednev · 10/11/2011 13:04

.....and I'm on the Home Ed pages explaining to a teacher why I Home Educate my son! She seems to think that all schools are a nurturing haven for all children. My son was failed by school on a grand scale due to his disability. Some teachers just shouldn't be in the job. Your poor child, my son had this happen to him - 'who likes ......, and why don't you like him. Is it because he spends time in hospital/is in pain/is different' - hey if they didn't get it before they sure as hell did after having it pointed out to them. That was it after that - in the playground all he had was - 'your legs don't work properly - you're stupid'. cheers school, self esteme rock bottom.

beingarebel · 10/11/2011 13:16

Shock. Thats terrible Sad. Your poor dd.

coff33pot · 10/11/2011 15:34

That is the most stupid move I have ever heard of! Angry

Has the teacher actually got a brain? ask her for me will you?

She has actually called out a childs name and asked who doesnt like her!!!

How is your dd supposed to feel after that. There should be no choice of who likes or who dislikes end of. Children need to be encouraged to play alongside each other. Teachers can work out who doesnt get along with who from observation alone but they should have the experience to tactfully keep them in different groups without talking about it.

I am dumbfounded and I would be telling the teacher too.

starfish71 · 10/11/2011 16:00

That is awful! What a stupid thing to do! God, I know there are good teachers out there but oh when you hear some of the things the bad ones do! Unacceptable.

Do really feel for you and your dd.

EllenJaneisnotmyname · 10/11/2011 17:17

Bloody hell. That really is shockingly bad. Angry Sad

bochead · 10/11/2011 17:28

Might I suggest you get out your laminating machine and produce the resources for a simple social skills session for the teacher? There's gotta be a social story to explain this one. I suspect it'll take an entire inset day for the penny to drop - do charge the school a nice consultancy fee won't you?

ffs how are our kids supposed to learn communication skills from numpties like this?

Might I suggest watching a few reruns of 1970's Miss Piggy off the muppet show on you tube? Your child will make the connection Wink

you have 2 laugh or you'd cry.

ouryve · 10/11/2011 18:04

Bloody Nora Shock

MangoMonster · 10/11/2011 18:57

I don't like it... Can't they just observe? I'd be annoyed too :(

MangoMonster · 10/11/2011 18:58

I have heard someone mention another teacher did this to their dc...

makemineaquadruple · 10/11/2011 19:10

I thought this would be the reaction I got, but just wanted to make sure that it wasn't just me and that it wasn't actually something that was done in a lot of schools. I bloody hope not!!

The main thing is, dd hasn't mentioned it to me and still seems very happy at drop off and pick up time, but nevertheless, the idea that she had to sit there and here that and then wait for the reaction of her classmates it almost unbearable actually. The more I think about it, the more it upsets me. I just can't see any logic behind it atall.

I think I probably will ask to see the head about this tomorrow. Like I said before though, I desperately want to keep a good relationship with the school, but at the same time I can't stand by and let my child be, let's face it, humiliated like this.

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unpa1dcar3r · 10/11/2011 19:11

Oh Make that really is a very clumsy and unprofessional way of doing things. I would be horrified and your poor daughter to be singled out like that...
I would refer them to their Professional Practice books!

MangoMonster · 10/11/2011 19:14

She was actually sitting there?!!!?! Blimey, definitely not on.

exoticfruits · 10/11/2011 19:18

Absolutely appalled- and I was a teacher. See the Head and complain.

hocuspontas · 10/11/2011 19:30

Did the teacher tell you this is what she actually said? Shock Or your dd? Because that may have been your dd's understanding when in fact the teacher said something like 'dd says she had no one to play with in the playground today. Who here plays with dd? ( some children raise their hands). 'Now, who would like to play with dd?' (other children raise their hands). Not saying this is what happened but is there a possibility it was misunderstood by dd? I'm having difficulty understanding how a teacher could be so blunt otherwise.

exoticfruits · 10/11/2011 19:34

I still don't think that your explanation is acceptable hocuspontas-if it was me I would want the floor to swallow me up.

exoticfruits · 10/11/2011 19:35

Sorry not very clear-if I was DD I would hate the teacher asking who had played with me and who wanted to play with me.

hocuspontas · 10/11/2011 19:43

I see what you mean, I was thinking in terms of our PSHE time when the children can bring up anything that makes them unhappy concerning their peers and we might approach it like that. But then we would know that there would be a percentage of kind children who would put their hands up and most of the class would follow suit and wouldn't want their classmate upset. BUT, it would definitely be led by the child him/herself. We wouldn't just blurt out something that would be humiliating to the child.

coff33pot · 10/11/2011 20:19

I still wouldnt think it would be good worded either way. It still singles a child out and he/she is still aware that some kids dont like her be it 20 or be it 1.

DS hates being singled out. I had a go at my teacher as she had been saying to DS "the children are pleased with you today" or "the children are unhappy with you today" I know she said it because she wrote it in the home book. And continued to do so in any bad comment by adding the "children were not happy with DS today" Angry

Triggles · 10/11/2011 22:13

out of order. what a thing to do!!

ouryve · 10/11/2011 23:10

Wasn't there a huge news article about something very similar to this a few years ago?

You'd think some learning by example might happen :(