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Bloody Ian Duncan Smith!

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Justlostitwithhim · 09/10/2011 01:10

Everyone needs to see this: www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2046924/Parent-child-ADHD-Have-free-car-1-5bn-taxpayer-funded-scheme.html

I'm so angry I can barely speak. Would anyone be prepared to join me in putting together some sort of pressure group to stop this? I could have cried when it mentioned naughty child syndrome. I think my son has ADHD and he gets overstimulated and is frightened. Why shouldn't such families be entitled to a car? SN, mental or physical massively impact on any family. I'm sure there are better brains than mine who can think of a way to make a stand. Please feel free to include any ideas or thoughts and perhaps we can consolidate them and try to fight this.

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AttilaTheMeerkat · 09/10/2011 15:01

I have complained to the PCC re this shoddily written article and will advise you all of the response when received.

Justlostitwithhim · 09/10/2011 15:08

Thanks Attila! Let me know if there's any more we can do with all these responses Smile

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pleasestoplying · 09/10/2011 15:12

Sent to PCC.

Justlostitwithhim · 09/10/2011 15:16

Thanks pleasestoplying Smile

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tabulahrasa · 09/10/2011 16:01

Please explain how you believe the Code of Practice has been breached
Section 1 ( i) The Press must take care not to publish inaccurate, misleading or distorted information, including pictures.

The article refers several times to a 'free car' the Motability scheme is not a free car, but a car paid for by an individual if they qualify for the higher rate mobility element of DLA - this money would still be paid to that individual if they did not apply for the Motability scheme.

It also states that 'Some doctors believe the big rise in the number of children said to have ADHD is a direct result of their parents? right to claim disability benefit of up to £10,000 a year.' A diagnosis of ADHD does not qualify a parent to any benefits, the care needs of a child with ADHD may entitle the child to DLA, but not just a diagnosis.

It goes on to state that To get the mobility element, families of sufferers must prove they need ?guidance or supervision most of the time from another person when walking out of doors in unfamiliar places?. This is in fact the qualifier for the lower rate mobility component of DLA not the higher rate. The lower rate mobility component does not qualify and individual for the Motability scheme. this statement is then repeated in the box entitled 'HOW THE MOTABILITY CAR SYSTEM WORKS'.

This box also states that 'The claim should be backed up by a doctor?s reference.

More than half of claims are approved without further checks.'

To claim DLA a parent must outline a child's care needs, a doctor must also give their opinion as well as the child's school, at least one other professional involved with the child and another person who knows the child. Proof is also asked for in the form of any relevant paperwork.

iii) The Press, whilst free to be partisan, must distinguish clearly between comment, conjecture and fact.)
12 ( i) The press must avoid prejudicial or pejorative reference to an individual's race, colour, religion, gender, sexual orientation or to any physical or mental illness or disability.)

The article starts 'Iain Duncan Smith has ordered a crackdown on thousands of families with youngsters diagnosed with ?naughty child syndrome? who get new cars paid for by the state.'

Naughty child syndrome is a prejorative reference. The article also in no way makes it clear that most Motability cars are hired and not owned at the end of the 3 year term.

that's my complaint - if anyone wants a read over it

Anna85 · 09/10/2011 16:23

I thought to be eligable for a car you had to recieve HRM is this not correct?

rebl · 09/10/2011 16:38

Bloody awful, inaccurate article.
Pleasestoplying excellent post.

Justlostitwithhim · 09/10/2011 16:48

Fantastic work tabulahrasa! Well done everyone Smile

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Triggles · 09/10/2011 21:23

It's these types of articles, as well as the dreadful comments from ignorant people after it, that make me so worried about DS2's future. It's horrible to see that the British public can be so biased and cruel over something they haven't even bothered to educate themselves over, simply taking as fact a warped article.

Justlostitwithhim · 09/10/2011 21:46

I know Triggles. I've just been on another nameless forum (hun - clue!) explaining to someone why their research was invalid when it consisted of articles like this one and other dubious sources. She had the nerve to tell me on a support forum that it was fictitious. I reported her and got her posts removed but it's a drop in the ocean I'm afraid. I really think that all we can do is what we're doing and getting as much promotion as possible. Big bumps to you and DS Sad

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Triggles · 09/10/2011 22:14

It's a shame it can't be shown how god-awful exhausting it can be. I am up frequently during the night, DS2 is still not potty trained at night, gets up at "oh my god o'clock" in the morning (otherwise known as 5am, but often earlier!). I can't leave him unsupervised for a minute - even going to the toilet myself means putting him in his room with the safety gate so I know he's not into something or doing something dangerous. I can't just open the door and tell him to get in the car if we're going somewhere - I have to physically hold his hand or use some type of restraint (wrist strap or reins) and I can't let go until he is in the carseat, strapped in securely and the car door is closed (child locks on car). Even then, if he got out of his carseat, he could get into the front seat and disengage the brake or get out one of those doors while I am putting his 2yo brother in his carseat. I have to be on constant alert - all the time - no matter where we are or what we are doing, for his own safety. At home, out and about, everywhere.

It's exhausting. Do they mention this aspect of ADHD (and other disabilities) in their article? no...

I put myself over the exhaustion point organising the DLA paperwork and filling it all out. I was still completing it when I got the paperwork for his statement for school that needed to be filled out. That's not including all the questionnaires and such for the school and paed and every other specialist they brought into his care (OT, SALT, PT, etc etc). Do they mention this aspect in the article? no....

I have to deal with nosy busybodies who can't mind their own business, making rude and judgemental comments about my child and my parenting, in front of both myself and my children, with little regard to either my feelings or my children's. I have to deal with people tutting on the bus when I take my DS in his SN pushchair because of his mobility problems (yes, he has some! And I don't currently claim mobility, although we're contemplating it as it simply is not improving at all and his needs are becoming more difficult to cope with and provide in an affordable way), stating he is far too old (at 5yo) to be in a pushchair and telling him how lazy he is to be in that pushchair "you're not a baby"! Hmm Do they mention this aspect in the article? no....

Thank god our school is brilliant regarding SNs, as I have heard horror stories of uncooperative schools that do not make any effort to meet a child's needs resulting in the parents having to fight tooth and nail just for basic needs for their child with SNs. And until they get the support they need, the parent is subjected to comments about their parenting, as well as nasty comments from other parents about how the class TAs are tied up with the badly behaved children in class instead of their own children. Hmm Again, thank god our school is brilliant about this. But do they mention this aspect in the article? no....

Naughty child syndrome? I am appalled at the blatant attempt to mislead the public in general, and even more appalled at how easily they are led. I am horrified at how many appear to be JEALOUS of someone getting a mobility car (and it's not for free - god, how many times does THIS have to be explained?!?!) when the reasons are because of a serious disability!! There ARE no PERKS to disability, only adjustments to allow a more equal opportunity. Why is that so damned hard for people to understand??

Triggles · 09/10/2011 22:17

and breathe... obviously the wrong night for me to read the article, eh? Hmm

keepingupwiththejoneses · 09/10/2011 22:26

pleasestop exactly the 2 clauses I have given in my complaint.
That article is horrific. DS1 has ADHD, DS2 has asd, we got HRM for DS2 but it took a fight of 18 months.
That article is very baldy writen, not researched properly and very oppinionated, disgusting

pleasestoplying · 09/10/2011 22:28

Same, keepingup. I had to appeal and appeal and appeal. Not the 'filling in a little form' experience that the DM would have us believe Hmm Angry

keepingupwiththejoneses · 09/10/2011 22:41

Little form!Shock As if, it is horrible to fill in.Angry

squidworth · 09/10/2011 22:51

What confuses me is surely the person with ADHD would also have a dx of learning difficulties or similar to qualify for severe mental impairment. I have to admit having two boys with autism and hearing ignorant comments is hard, I would probably need anger management if I had a child with ADHD to cope with the evil rubbish from people's mouths.

insanityscratching · 09/10/2011 22:56

Have complained it is absolutely disgraceful that such an article was published. Ds was awarded HRM because of his autism and an arrested development such articles give people the entitlement to comment when my ds gets out of the car and walks/runs as they believe unequivocably that I am screwing the system and have the life of Riley on the strength of ds's disability benefits Sad Angry.

Ben10WasTheSpawnNowWeLoveLego · 10/10/2011 06:55

Right, I have complained. I just read it again and got so angry.

Ben10WasTheSpawnNowWeLoveLego · 11/10/2011 19:31

See here. Seems that only 100 children with ADHD as their main disability claim HRM and are therefore eligible for Motability.......

Justlostitwithhim · 11/10/2011 19:56

Thanks Ben10. It's absolutely sickening. I think we need MUCH more recognition of what ADHD actually is Smile! Great to see that corrections are being pressed for.

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ouryve · 11/10/2011 20:36

Have just seen this and I'm thanking those of you who have taken time to complain and have made their complaints so eloquently. I am sick to the back teeth of media portrayal of ADHD, and it's not just the daily maul which spouts such sneering ignorance.Angry

unpa1dcar3r · 11/10/2011 20:49

Did anyone actually comment on the comments? I did...a few times actually. Whether it'll get through to the ignorant sods I don't know but have tried.

WinterIsComing · 12/10/2011 00:37

Blog post debunking this disgraceful article here

Karmalady · 12/10/2011 05:38

Fullfacts have taken up this story:

fullfact.org/factchecks/disability_benefits_motability_ADHD_Mail-3025

Hopefully, the DM retraction, which are becoming more common, will follow shortly.

unpa1dcar3r · 12/10/2011 07:56

But will it be headlined or just some measly little comment on page 59 one inch square!

Was reminded of Stanley Cohens 'Folk Devils and Moral Panics' with this story; how a certain group will be deliberately vilified by the media for its own gains...to turn society against that group and make them into deviants. How the media will not use facts but will write anything for their own agenda.
Was written originally about Mods and Rockers of the 60's and then progressed to other groups such as black people.
I think it perfectly sums up what's happening here.