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EDS Hypermobility No. 2

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SparkleRainbow · 23/09/2011 17:20

We reached 1001 threads, so here we go with a new thread. This thread was originally started so we could get together and share experiences and expertise in Ehlers Danlos Syndrome, Marfans, Benign Joint Hypermobility, and any other medical conditions including connective tissue disorders which cause joint hypermobility, pain and all the associated symptoms.

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TheHumancatapult · 15/02/2012 16:29

woah sorry checking in ds3 been poorly so no internet but is on mend now

Well after me chasing them up found were booked into rehab for 2 weeks from the 9th of April.Not sure when they was going to tell me Angry they know i needed lots of notice reagrding it so can sort childcare and now they saying they may not have accessinible accomidation adult wise becuase they are set for disabled children so im going to strugge to access the kitchens arghhhhhhhhhhhhAngry

TheHumancatapult · 15/02/2012 16:31

Think im lucky as ds3 has dafos he can pretty much wear what he likes and school had to lump it

aunt

under the discimation act they have to make reasonable adjustments for your sons needs and shoe issues is reasonable i reckon

Sparkle .Hope your all ok and school still going well

Ariane huge congrtualtions on the wedding

waves to everyone else

auntevil · 15/02/2012 16:50

Oh yes THC I 'warned' them of this last time when I was this close (a bit too visual!) to him having no shoes at all to come back to school with. I must admit that I am going to take his last pair of shoes into school so they can see how much damage is done by him walking. Hopefully they'll be more forgiving based on sympathy rather than me having to remind them of their duty under the disability act! Grin
On the same theme THC, do they also not need to make the kitchen accessible for adults under the same act? April is not far away. Do you reckon you can sort something in that time?

TheHumancatapult · 15/02/2012 17:05

apparentley others mange as they bring someone else eg other parent .Erm fine but pointed out I dont have someone else Confused

Been told will just have to mange , caring hospital not Angry

TheHumancatapult · 15/02/2012 17:06

DD will have to come with me on the first week it is half term and have no one who can have her all week .They are just going to have to suck it up .Second week have got it sorted plus she is back in school

TheHumancatapult · 15/02/2012 17:11

if they do not ona sking put it in writing to them and copy to govenors

ginger19 · 15/02/2012 22:18

Hi

Hope its ok to join in here.
DS 5 diagnosed as Hyper mobile a few months ago. He had developed a limp and had been complaining about pain in his legs for so so long.

We saw Sue Maillard at GOSH and although it is so hard to motivate him, we are working at the physio. He finds it really hard going, but does help.The limp has gone, and we know why he was falling over all the time. He has insoles they help.

I do not think we have had ONE day in which he has not had an accident (wee) More upsetting for him is the poo. He has accidents VERY regularly. He is taking movicol for impaction...I cant say it is helping . His body seems to give him no warning. I am so anxious and sad for him. What does all this mean for his future? Do most children grow out of these symptoms?

What else can I do to help him?
Every week he does 1 hr karate 1 hr swimming 2 hrs football. Should we be doing more? ( not walking to school)

auntevil · 15/02/2012 22:22

I do evil well THC . If you want me to send an evil letter to your caring hospital asking for a plus 1 for you for the duration, I hear that Johnny Depp might be free - do you think that the PCT could cover the cost? Grin
Seriously though - that smacks on various levels of discrimination. Not everyone is in any form of partnership or able to have a partner with them. It shouldn't be a case of just having to manage. It is their responsibility to provide suitable facilities for all abilities.
Tbh, I have found some hospitals quite bad at accommodating even basic requirements. I think that we have the only maternity and children's section that doesn't have baby changing facilities - for those you have to go into the main building. You couldn't make something as ridiculous as that up.

TheHumancatapult · 16/02/2012 04:26

oo jonny Depp that do me in a push Wink hope he can cook though Grin

Aunt truth i find it lot of places they see dc including ds3 with sn .Then me in a wheelchair and are like who looks after them and the house .I say me .They say no i mean who helps .Erm that be me on my own Angry

But evne on holidays disabled access often means bedroom and wetroom at a push not every doorway accessibile or accessibile kitchen or light switches

ariane5 · 16/02/2012 08:05

bizzey-my ds has same problem and at one point was referred for circumcision but i decided to wait instead and see if problem resolved as he grew (it hasnt).

He used to get a lot of very nasty infections and would be in a lot of pain but thankfully has not had one for quite a while. He still balloons a lot and foreskin very tight but I am hoping it will at some point it will be ok, he does not seem to really be bothered by it or in any pain.

SparkleRainbow · 16/02/2012 13:40

THC - I am this close to writing to CXO of GOSH to point out their DDA failings on your behalf, it is ridiculous. I am soooo Angry

Bizzey - you are not making a fuss about nothing. A condition does not need to be life threatening to warrant a referral to see specialists. I hope you have more success with this gp.

appropriatelytrained - welcome to the thread, I am sorry I can not help re Southampton paediatric rheumies, not in our area at all, but have to tried googling the hopsital and the rheumie team and seeing if they have some bios up...it can give you a bit of a heads up.

auntevil - extra arm of chromosome 9 is new to me. Have you been told this by the geneticist? I agree with THC, the school have got no right to complain about having to wear different shoes, they have to make reasonable adjustments, and this adjustment is costing them nothing. Write a little letter to point that out to the chair of governors and the Headteacher, copy it to the governor with responsibility for SEN and safeguarding (health is a safeguarding issue too) and remind them of their responsibilties under the Equalities Act 2010. Blardy schools.

Have to say my ds's Headteacher told him he shouldn't worry about what he has to wear in order to get to school, he could wear slippers in school, which are are trying to find some ones with backs (who knew that was so hard) and he could wear pink fluffy pyjamas as far as she was concerned, she just wanted to see him and him to be happy.

Ginger - my ds has urinary problems and some fecal incontinence, but his are related to spinal pressure, rather than poor muscle strength of pelvic floor or similar. My sis though who has eds only more mildly, has never been able to tell if she needs a wee or a poo, not incontinent just poor signals....am sure this is eds related. although she has never shared this with the rheumie, so who knows. My ds had bladder and kidney scans to make sure the muscles were working properly, was just ultrascound scan, quick painless, and well worth it, so you could ask for it, it is clearly a major problem and warrants further investigation. He also did some bladder training exercises, and follows a frequent urination timetable, which have helped him when he has spinal pressure because his bladder is never as full.
You are managing to do lots of activities, more than my ds could ever manage, well done you. Not sure there is more that you can do, if you have physio under control. Physio is a struggle for most of us on here, motivation, time, dc playing up over it. etc.

Ooo long message.

The baby Gp had a infant gp with him yesterday (student doctor) neither of them knew what they were doing, but both very sweet. Are going to refer ds to orthotics at hospital for their help in shoes, he has to take NSAIDs for a couple of days to see if that improves the swelling in his toes. e shall see.

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SparkleRainbow · 16/02/2012 13:41

Sorry! Blush

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auntevil · 16/02/2012 16:26

sparkle We know that DH, FIL and SIL have this extra arm on 9. Just been doing some research on related subject and 9 can be responsible for issues with collagen, neural/spinal issues, swallowing, EDS, etc etc. All 3 DS have something on that list - so it could be something - it could be nothing.
OHs side found out when MIL was pregnant with SIL. She had amniocentesis and it highlighted this - so they were all given checks. Some of FILs side also have it.
Just wondered if anyone else had had any genetic links - how they found out about it etc.
Thing is, it wouldn't change anything even if it was genetic, but at least we could then stop looking for causes for the DS's problems.
THC I assume everyone thinks that the housework fairies come in at night to scrub and polish Biscuit

elliejjtiny · 16/02/2012 18:02

DS3 has an extra bit of one of his chromasones but I don't know which one. Still waiting for test results from DH and DS2 which were done in october and mine which were done in december.

TheHumancatapult · 16/02/2012 20:29

ginger we saw Sue and have to say first impressions is we are not going to get on well Grin

spidermanspiderman · 16/02/2012 21:16

Hi everyone, ds decided to throw up over his sheet and then when stripping bed, on his mattress topper grrr. No idea how to wash it so have left off his bed. Only problem is now he is unable to sleep ggrrr. Had.no real sleep last night as slept with him just in case he was ill again and from the sounds of things none tonight.

On a good note however have received call confirming ds can have an assistant in pool for swim class but we do have to change day. Think they keep panicking that ds is going to drown himself as looks so uncoordinated - he just thinks he's trying to swim underwater and stands up wondering what all the fuss is about.Smile

bizzey · 16/02/2012 22:44

Gosh so many new messages!! hello everyone and those i dont know..need to re-read these and reply with pad and paper..just going to top up my glass he he

ariane5 · 17/02/2012 08:15

THC-I know what you mean, everytime we have seen her it ha sbeen a case of 'get rid of the buggy COMPLETELY' despite the fact i dont drive,he wont walk and if he does is in pain falls and dislocates. Ds discharged from rheum at GOSH now as local hosp can do all the same for him and are a lot more sympathetic I have found recently and plus they see the dcs a lot more often so really know them and can tell instantly if they have got worse/improved a bit.

TheHumancatapult · 17/02/2012 08:49

Sparkle

We have the same issue with physio as we have to do before school .But then ds3 has to get up by 5.30 to fit it in and then eat get dressed and he i just to tired at school rthat he has taken to need a nap in school .

so we had to scale the physio back and he is to tired by time he gets home ( his school day 7.30-4.30 becuase of transport)plus he hates doing it

spoder

good news on the swomming extra help but hope he feels better soon

Arriane
im going to try the course of 2 wees rehab have sorted childcare uckily thanks to good friend aying she have dd to stay for the first week.But I will not move on teh fact i have to have ensuite room( as use cathters and i cna not leave ds 3 with a proper wet room to as on night without shower doable not 5 Angry as for cooking faclites i have no clue how will mange will just have to .
Yes we get the no buggy etc but like you I do not drive and now with being in a chair be far to tricky to learn . but will see im now jut doing thing my way

Chromsome wise ds3 has nothing on the basic but the gentics is convinced there is something else going on as he has lot of issue

After school wise ds3 does nothing as he is to worn out but once a fortnight on a saturday he goes with his sister to a sn club and they are fab and do days out and give 1-1 for him he has been there since he attended the nursery they run .

TheHumancatapult · 17/02/2012 08:51

ariane

it was the way they go to a room to talk then come back in .he got my back up add in never returns calls and i have to chase them .

ariane5 · 17/02/2012 08:56

dd1 had the 2 week rehab it was really good helped her a lot but she was exhausted. def worth it though Smile

TheHumancatapult · 17/02/2012 09:10

ah my concern is that we have been already following the program and they are orgetting ds3 has many other issues that are affecting his muscle strength

We have a working dc of myasthenia gravis to add alongside to .so now not ony does he have a problem making the collgen he has a neuro problem so messages ar enot getting through to the nerves alongside it .add in GDD and suspected chromome .im suspecting that 2 week course is just not going be the quick fix.Our local team that now ds3 much better have told me that in reality this is a s good as it gets now and to acceppt that .

But were give it a go and see

Im reaching stage where i just want to say bog of and leave us alone wereemange it our way Sad

SparkleRainbow · 17/02/2012 09:37

THC - poor ds so much going on for him. How useful are the local team being? I am so disappointed with GOSH for you, such bad manners to leave the room to go elsewhere to talk and then come back to you Angry I am glad you have the child care sorted for dd, at least that is something...thank you friends!

spiderman - sorry about the vomitting....you will just have to surface wash the mattress topper....lots of fabreze too Hmm Hope he is feeling better today.

Have to try to get through to ds' physio again today, no answer yesterday...need someone else to look at his feet. We went to a friends for a little play yesterday, he managed to dislocate a finger and his left knee cap! Popped them back in for him, and sent him off the play again.... does that make me a bad mother or a good one Grin

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spidermanspiderman · 17/02/2012 11:34

Sparkle that makes you a good mum. Playtime aids / distracts so recovery is faster in their minds and not a big issue then.

Will set to on that matress topper soon - uuggglllhhh - just trying to avoid at the moment Blush

SparkleRainbow · 17/02/2012 12:51

Thank you for the vote of confidence. Grin

How about that vanish foam carpet cleaner for the mattress topper, after you have removed the "bits", sorry if tmi for others reading. It will be a sunny day on Sunday...good day for airing pungent mattress toppers outside! Grin

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