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EDS Hypermobility No. 2

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SparkleRainbow · 23/09/2011 17:20

We reached 1001 threads, so here we go with a new thread. This thread was originally started so we could get together and share experiences and expertise in Ehlers Danlos Syndrome, Marfans, Benign Joint Hypermobility, and any other medical conditions including connective tissue disorders which cause joint hypermobility, pain and all the associated symptoms.

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bizzey · 12/02/2012 11:33

Morning all...the stories of drawing perfect pictures on the walls has just sprung to mind as..
.ds dropped something earlier and said"oh bl..dy hell" (perfectly!)....while trying not to laugh i praised him on his perfect pronuciation, as i understood it very well ..and then reminded him it's not a thing he should be saying!!!!.
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.why are all the other blend words with "l" as 2nd letter a problem but not that one !!typicalSmile

spidermanspiderman · 12/02/2012 23:25

Hi everyone, dd's birthday tomorrow and hv coming - manic cleaning session on going! I know everyone wants to see kids not house but with all the snow / sludge and the mad dog house was really bad!

Hi bizzey, just typical, kids excelling only when its something naughty!

Ds has had bad day today, could not really walk and very unresponsive to any form of communication from dh or myself. Lots of deep breaths and counting to ten going on!

IShallWearMidnight · 13/02/2012 10:26

woowoowoo - appt at UCLH on 25th April with Adolescent Rheumatology - any idea if that's actually Prof G, or someone else?

bizzey · 13/02/2012 15:30

Happy birthday spidermanspiderman's dd Hope you are all having a fun filled family day and h/v visit went okSmile

spidermanspiderman · 13/02/2012 16:38

Thank you bizzey, hv was ok no referrals made as yet but starting a caf report on Thursday. Not sure what that entails exactly.

Dd has had a good day - lots of chocolate cake Grin. We're well into the terrible twos already behaviour wise. She is such a bright little spark. Unfortunately for ds she is already overtaking him in some areas. She had ddh quite badly in both hips when born but fingers crossed will get all clear on Wednesday (x-ray being done).

Ds is just a tinker today completely ignored hv and pretended she wasn't there.

bizzey · 13/02/2012 17:30

spidermanspiderman.....so she didn't come dressed as spiderman then ..shame on her!!!!!

spidermanspiderman · 13/02/2012 17:33

Nope no consideration at all for my ds and his wants lol. Would have been very funny if she had. Grin

bizzey · 13/02/2012 17:53

Haha Our NHS system is good but a bit bonkers..ds2 had grommets 2 weeks ago ..lots of blood after..GP 3 days later said he had blood clot would go soon ...day 12 out of hour gp(sat) still blood clot go back to surgeon(Chelsea&Westminister) phoned 2/day !!! NO go to A&E??? AND WILL GET QUICKER APPOINTMENT! I now have to go t/morrow at Kingston with ds1 AM and then to c/w for an afternoon in a&e ...OHHH the joys of motherhood!!!! (is it too early forWineGrin)

spidermanspiderman · 13/02/2012 18:57

Oh poor you bizzey. Definitely time for Wine i'm just waiting for dh to come in so can have some - pllleeeaaassseee hurry up dh!

SparkleRainbow · 13/02/2012 19:37

Sorry not caught up, will try and have a read in a bit. Have been at hospital today with ds, no problems just orthotics, followed by hour in shoe shop trying unsuccessfully to find some shoes that don't hurt ds's feet. I love half terms, will read properly asap and answer more sensibly if I can. Grin

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sazale · 14/02/2012 01:44

Hi guys
This is a very interesting thread. My ds is due to see a paed tomorrow and has developed yet another one of his random high fevers. He used to get them every 5 to 6 weeks but hasn't had one for a couple months. I was just wondering if this could be connected to hypermobility? He also has the blue tinge to the whites of his eyes (I noticed that before we knew about his hypermobility). Just trying to get things clear in my head ready for appointment (that's why I can't sleep lol)!
Thanks

spidermanspiderman · 14/02/2012 10:37

Hi sazale, was really interested in the eye discolouration (will be checking out ds as soon as comes in from preschool). Could well be connected to hypermobility as could be to do with connective tissue. Almost forget that there's connective tissue in the eye - now everyone's dry eye comments earlier make sense too.

auntevil · 14/02/2012 11:21

Can I talk shoes? I don't know whether its the dyspraxia or hypermobility, but DS1 is a nightmare with shoes. Everything except the lightest of the light, or anything that is so supportive that it could have been superglued to him makes him moan. Trouble is he is also exceptionally heavy on the balls of his feet - right foot only. So much so, that he has gone through the sole of some decent school shoes in this half term - and we're only 5 minutes walk from school Confused
Advice as to brands, styles, repairs!
Update on my request to paediatrician for DS1 to see rheumatologist - they're still 'deciding'. So much so that I have written a complaint to the PCT. Who still haven't replied, only acknowledged the complaint. Seems the issue isn't that he's hypermobile - that's pretty much in agreement. Did everyone here get to see a rheumatologist after dx?

elliejjtiny · 14/02/2012 13:11

We don't have a reumatologist. DS2 had a neurologist for a while but once he decided it was "just" EDS then he discharged him. So now we just see the paed and genetics.

Not sure about shoes as ds2 wears piedro boots and ds3 doesn't wear anything on his feet.

IShallWearMidnight · 14/02/2012 13:36

Dd is to see a rheumatologist for diagnosis, after that I assume we're back with GP/ rubbish paed.

bizzey · 14/02/2012 17:47

Evening allSmile..i have got lots to write and so am starting early and by the time i have finished it will be your bed time story!!!!!!!!!!11

I am going to refer to lots of peoples stories but appologies if dont write your name ..I tend to lose my thread/screen when I go back to check!!

EYES...my ds has (beautifull big) blue eyes.niether me or other ds's have so nothing to compare it with but... have noticed blue tinge in and around but put it down to his eye colour and very thin skin ..could be gettin desparate now for answer's! Anyhow got opticians app Thurs.

RE SHOES: oh auntvil GrinGrin..so I am not the only one to have a ds who has a problem with EVERY single shoe in the shop...He was in piedros till last summer..they had wanted me to "wean"him off them to let him start to build up his own strenth/muscles..every SINGLE shoe we tried hurt!!..physio organised for lighter boots which arrived in the post..TOO SMALL AND WITH LACES!!..this for a child who struggles with zips...anyhow thought i would go to another "posher shop then clarkes" and persevere...unfortunatly my dad was taken into hospital the week i was going to DO all this school stuff(3deys before term)..dad needed supplies from asda and while there i picked up ds an "emergency pair"just to get him throug the first week...

Best £10 i have ever spent!!!! He thinks his physio sent them to him ..but they are the best shoes EVER..still dont know if the shoes DO actually suit his feet or it's in the mind?..but have tried clarkes again and ..THEY ALL HURT..not happy admitting dds is in asda shoes but ..hey!! Smile

RE RHEUMATOLOGIST: what do they do????Confused

Now for a slightly "delicate" enquiry/question which could be totally unrelated to our thread and i hope i do not offend.....my ds has a tight foreskin and "ballons"when he wee's..have seen pead who said to leave it till he is older to do anything as he has had no probs/infections just balloning (i will explain that more if any one wants to know!)Blush

Well i think i am done for now..my typing is improving while i am on this thread...2 fingers now!!!Grin

spidermanspiderman · 14/02/2012 21:31

Hi everyone, hope today wasn't too stressful bizzey. I cannot stand a and e. The thought of being at hosp all day with dcs - nope can't even think about it. No idea re the ballooning thing would just keep reminding paed in case they forget.

No idea re shoes. We really like geox at the moment - like a trainer and with Velcro straps. Have been known to get fitted in expensive independent shoe shop and then order on line Grin. Do in soles help at all? - sounds silly now, but you get those gel ones for high heels could they help at all as they cushion balls of feet. My ds is slightly different to everyone though as doesn't feel pain like everyone else so we have to check for marks. Will never forget dh taking ds to a soft play and finding a burn mark from going down the slides, that night in the bath.

Better dash got to pretend to be asleep before dh comes to bed - bl*y valentines - lol

ariane5 · 15/02/2012 07:29

All 3 0f my dcs have very very bright unusually blue eyes (me and dp both brown eyed-dp was even born with brown eyes) dcs whites of eyes very bluish too, we have always been told it is because of the eds/hypermobility.

I went to see midwife on mon and they sent me up to the hospital-everything apparently fine, went on monitor etc and baby all fine they have no explanation for any of my symptoms other than the fact im anaemic and tired, told me to try and rest (no chance!!) They were VERY interested about the fact i had placenta accreta during 2nd pg and spent ages asking about it but apart from that seemed unconcerned.

No answers about my bursting veins either-the whole back of my hand is now oddly numb after the last one and it worries me a bit but they said could find nothing wrong?? my blood pressure was a bit low but thats normal for me so no idea whats happening.

regarding shoes all of my dcs wear ankle boots and the older 2 have orthotics in them.I find it hard to get boots for dd1 as she has size 5 and a half feet already.Usually i have to just look everywhere currently they all have a pair from clarks that have good ankle support but sometimes they wear boots from shoe zone and when dd1 was little the physio recommended kickers boots

SparkleRainbow · 15/02/2012 13:21

Auntevil, both my ds and I see rheumatologists regularly throughout the year, they manage our eds. Ds also has a paed and two orthopaedic surgeons, paed cardiac surgeon as well as physio and orthotics and clinical psychologist, all connected to his eds.

Midnight - it very much depends on the pct it would seem, but there is no reason to assume your dd will be discahrged by the rheumie.

Bizzey - my ds has very big blue eyes, with blue tinged whites, as I used to have but now are blood shot! The Optician says his eyes are fine, but he has an almost neglible amount of pigmentation at the back of his eye, which is why he is so affected by bright conditions, and needs sunglasses. Blur tinged whites is a symptom of eds.
My ds has a very large foreskin and got recurrent balanitis (sp?) infections. Had to teach him to wipe the end of his penis dry after every wee, this cured the problem that 3 gps creams and AB had not been able to cure. Not related to eds, just happens sometimes, as does tight foreskin...just keep and eye on it....iykwim Wink

Plus - laughed alot over a long time re "What do rheumatologists do...! " thought has crossed my mind many times.

Seriously - they are the joint and connective tissue specialists, so they monitor joints, recommend physio programmes, send out to other specialist teams to get other affected areas checked out eg. heart, neuro for migraines, orthotics, gastro etc. But they are supposed to manage the whole child. They will take progressive xrays...to montior joint deterioration and do blood tests to keep eye out for rheumatoid arthritis too, as well as generally inflamation markers in the blood and urine.

Hi Ariane -sorry about the bursting veins it is horried I am sure. I didn't have that but dreadful varicose veins, which still plague me now.

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SparkleRainbow · 15/02/2012 13:25

SHOES!!!!! argh, don't mean to shout but what can I do, we have tried on every pair in clarks, ironically the obly shoes that don't hurt are a pair of cheap trainers from factory outlet branato (?) or however you say it. It is the heels and little toes that hurt my ds, have got good pair of insole orthotics from orthotics-online, based in london, but he is still having heel and toes problems, seeing baby gp later, when he comes up a blank will see boss gp next week.

Must go now, have organised play date, with one of only two friends with whom my ds can be relaxed and she takes all his issues in her stride. Am aware I haven't caught up with past posts, will do that later, after gp appointment.

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appropriatelytrained · 15/02/2012 13:49

Has anyone been to the paediatric rheumatology service in Southampton? DS was being seen at GOSH but I thought this might be nearer and a bit less stressful.

EllenJaneisnotmyname · 15/02/2012 14:16

bizzey Your DS has the same foreskin related problem as my DS3. All 3 DS's had tight foreskins with the foreskin adhering to the glans. DS1 and 2 self corrected. (IYKWIM!) I took DS3 to the GP who referred him to urology (sp). DS3 has been told to pull it back every bath time to stretch it and has a follow up appt with urology next year. If it doesn't correct they'll do some small op, (eek) not as major as a circumcision. But a circumcision may have been necessary.

EllenJaneisnotmyname · 15/02/2012 14:18

Oh, yes. DS3 is 9, DS1 and 2 self corrected by then. I think it's a good idea to get it sorted before puberty, but wait and see until 8 or 9.

bizzey · 15/02/2012 14:19

HA HA baby GP/bossGP .. TOOK ME A WHILE BUT GOT IT love it ..still trying to work mine out ..got a diff one tommorow am determind to go in and get referrals..i have asked before and been refused..feel bad in making a fuss over something that is not "life-threatning" but.... this has gone on too long without proper answersSad

auntevil · 15/02/2012 16:14

Ironically sparkle it was a cheap pair of trainer type shoes that DS found the easiest to wear. They were light and had some support at the ankle.
School are being a pain at the moment - they will only accept 'proper' school shoes. Its hard to find velcro , lightweight but supportive, hardwearing school shoes - in a size 3. It seems like when boys hit a certain age, velcro on anything but trainers just isn't 'de rigueur' . I will have to dig out the non tie laces and see if I can find a laced pair.
Anyone had any experience of an extra arm on chromosome 9?