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donnaj · 12/11/2005 22:50

hello ive got 3 gorgeous girls and pregnant with 4th went for an amnio yesterday was awfull just got to wait for results now although watever im keeping this baby just wanted to know if ne1 has been in a similar sit to me i need advice badly as me and hubby cant agree

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clary · 12/11/2005 23:17

Donna sorry to hear that you are so worried.
Why did you have the amnio? I assume you had a high risk for Down's on your blood test?
There are several people on MN with babies with DS who may be able to give you advice on this. Thomcat in particular is an inspiration.
My DN(iece) has DS and is a lovely child.
I hope you get the news you want. I am sure the hospital will offer you counselling and this may help you and DH find agreement.

expatinscotland · 12/11/2005 23:18

Sorry for your situation, donna.

There's a VERY recent thread on this, donnaj, in which a lot of people shared their experiences, including some mums of DS children.

Might want to try a search of current messages.

donnaj · 12/11/2005 23:36

hello again as a newbie on here didnt quite explain had a high risk result from my triple test and had the amnio yesterday and me and hubby cant agree on nothing hes just seing things from a negative point and all i can see is this is our baby seen it on the scan and the amnio took ages as baby was so active the consultant found a space then baby moved so he was poking my belly trying to make it move again all i want is a little bit of help and someone who has a ds baby to say tome it isnt all bad like the majority of people say and that we will cope if the baby has it etc etcthx for listening donna xx

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aloha · 12/11/2005 23:38

Try doing a search for messages from Thomcat - she has a little girl with Downs called Charlotte (search Thomcat and Charlotte) who is the light of her life.
Good luck.

donnaj · 12/11/2005 23:45

silly bloody aol tried searching to be honest not quite sure how but i nearly signed up for an egg card pop up allover the place ne1 who can help me find thomcar so i can ask advice much appreciated you can mail me too .... [email protected] many thx xxx donnaj

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geekgrrl · 13/11/2005 03:39

hiya donnaj, sorry to hear about the turmoil you're going through at the moment. are you getting a quick result or do you have a long wait ahead?
I have a 4 year old daughter with DS (as well as a 6 yr old one without who is having a stomach bug tonight, and a 2 yr old son).
My daughter with DS is a little sweetheart, she has just started reception at our village primary school, where she is apparently the most popular pupil. She's such a character - friendly, assertive, tries hard at everything she does and is usually full of beans. All my three kids get on really well, they're a proper little gang.
My dd was born with a heart defect that is commonly found in babies with DS, she had this repaired completely when she was little and apart from being susceptible to colds she is now in good health.
We didn't find out until after she was born, but I know several couples who had a prenatal diagnosis via the DS-UK email list - I think it is quite common for fathers to feel more apprehensive than the mothers, I guess to them the baby is a lot more abstract than it is to us. The Down's Syndrome Association offer prenatal counselling and lots of useful information material - should you need it. After all, you may well have a standard baby in there. Good luck - whatever the outcome, please do keep us updated.

catj · 13/11/2005 04:02

Hi.Just want to say I am in a similar situation to you. I also have 3 girls & am expecting our 4th child in march. I was given a high risk of downs at my 12 week scan. For various reasons we decided not to go ahead with further testing but I have recently had my 20 wk scan & nothing abnormal was found (I know that doesn't rule out DS but it's less to worry about). At the time of the first scan I posted on mumsnet & everyone was so helpful. Hope you get your results soon.

eidsvold · 14/11/2005 05:07

I have a 3yo dd with down syndrome and have recently posted on a few threads

here

here

She is an amazing little girl having been through two open heart surgeries at 8 weeks old. We are just back from staying with my db and sil for the first time and they could not stop commenting on how well behaved and fabulous dd1 was.

I'll see if I can find other threads - I knwo I have replied ot lots of threads re amnios and down syndrome. The contacts you have been given are great. Dd1 was born whilst dh and I were living in the Uk and the Down Syndrome Association was fabulous.

If you want to contact me via contact another talker I can email you an article about our early days.

ThomCat · 14/11/2005 13:24

Donna

So sorry, just seen this, how are you hon'?
I'm going to CAT you now and I'll give you my phone number, please, please call me if you want to, I'd be so happy to chat and answer any questions.

It must be so hard for you right now with your husband feeling differently to you. Have to say am over the moon you've decided to keep the baby whatever happens
I swear to you now, on all that is precious to me, you'll never, ever regret it.

Having a child with Down's syndrome seems really scary doesn't it. But it isn't, really, it isn't. It's just like having any other child, they just take a bit longer to learn to do things, but when they do...... hmmmm oh Donnie, when they do it's amazing, such a cause for celebration, such an aazing feeling that everyone rejoices in. Honestly. Everyone who loves Lottie, and th'a anyone who's ever met her, shares in our joy. It's fab. Not taking simple things for granted, you'll love how that makes you feel.

My friend looked after Lottie while we were out last night, had her at her house for tea then bought her back to ours and put her to bed and at home and waited for us to come in. She said 'blimey, she's just so lovley isn't she, I'd take 10 of of her, she's so easy'. And she is.

I'm pregnant again now, due in 5 weeks and in many ways I'm dreading having a child who doesn't have Down's syndrome!

Charloote is utterly, totally, out of this world.
She's got such agreat sense of humour, she's outgoing, socialable, strong willed, stubbon, cheeky, just the perfect child.

She said to me yesterday 'mummy, binderbella (Cinderella)', and I said 'What .. a DVD' and before I could say 'no' she threw her amrms into the air and said 'okay mummy' and bum shuffled back into the lounge! Like it was my suggestion she watch a DVD! I couldn't resist so as I put it on for her she wrapped her arms roiund me, kissed me and said 'dadoo (thank you) mummy', sat down and as it started cheered 'hooorrrraayyyy'!!!! She's like that all the time. Everything is great, life is totally embraced by her, and it's infectious.

I said it once before, she's not just a ray on sunshine, she is the sun.

I can put my hand on my heart and tell you that Lottie is as close to perfect as you can get and there's not one single thing I'd change about her. I am the luckiest person, and I mean that sincerely.

I don't know what ele to say.

I'll CAT you and try and find a few links to posts about Down's syndrome etc.

Lots of love - TC x

ThomCat · 14/11/2005 13:35

Found this

and and this

Mum2OneAndBump · 14/11/2005 13:48

Aww have to just butt in here, just reading TC's post & it made me cry, TC the way you talk about your daughter is so fantastic to read, she sounds adorable

Donnaj - Goodluck with your results i wish you all the best for the future.

onlyjoking9329 · 14/11/2005 21:29

thomcat what a lovely lovely post, i have three friends who have children who have DS one has twin girls 11 years old, one has aDS just turned two, and one has a DD just turned one, and they all know about you and lottie, i think you are fab and an inspiration, i would love a piccy of lottie to show them.

Janh · 14/11/2005 21:37

This is TC's most recent pic of Lottie on MN I think, oj - there are others in member profiles if you search on Thomcat.

Lottie is such a love, donna

onlyjoking9329 · 14/11/2005 21:39

donnaj, i dont have a child with DS but have a few mates who have, i do have three kids who all have autism, one thing i have come to learn is that all kids are different, my three all have same DX but they are all soooo different , i have learnt to change to meet the needs of my kids and now find NT kids hard to work out, i get great joy from my kids and really rejoice when they do even small things that other people don't get the joy from as its expected IYKWIM e.g my DD2 11years old, told me how to spell "was" it has taken hr a long time to get there but that in itself made it soooo special.

manzanilla · 14/11/2005 22:18

ThomCat you are a star and your story was so lovely. What a beautiful daughter - how lucky she is to have such a top mummy and how blessed you are to have her!

Donnaj - this must be a very emotional time for you. You and your family are in my thoughts.

Take care

XXX

donnaj · 14/11/2005 22:55

i must just say to all my fish test wasnt ne good hoping to get the 2nd one friday moday at the latest thankyou for thinking about me and i cant say im not gutted that i still dont know if this baby has ds or not but for one thing ive never seen anything negative which hubby does and thomcat thumbs up from me yov have totally made my decision to have this baby solid regardless of the ds i just need time to work on mark when i texted him saying about fish test when he came home he never mentioned it and all i want to do is talk ive been on every site i could find but to be honest it wasnt real to me speaking on here to people with ds kids is real and although in my heart and not wanting to sound nasty i do hope my baby hasnt got ds but i want to prepare myself and get as much hands on info from mums and dads if our baby has ds ur all stars in my eyes and ill keep you up to date on the second test thx for listen to each and every one xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx donna

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donnaj · 14/11/2005 22:59

me again i keep seing you all refering to dd2 dd1 sorry for being thik but wat does it mean not very good at abbreviations xx donna

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donnaj · 14/11/2005 23:02

thomcat you have got such a cutie just seen her pic shes gorgeous and i bet a little terror at times lol aint they all xx

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hub2dee · 14/11/2005 23:02

darling / dear daughter / son (first / second etc.)

pinotgrigio · 14/11/2005 23:57

Donna - thinking of you. Let us know your results.

Thomcat what a beautiful post. You made me cry. In the office.

ThomCat · 15/11/2005 10:58

Donna, morning hon', hope you?re feeling ok.
So glad you're back and we can chat more. I totally understand you needing to know so you can prepare yourself for the arrival of your child and get your head round stuff.
I just want to talk a bit about that.

When Lottie was born and we realised she had DS it was the most awful moment in my life to be honest. Funny thinking that now though, but it was. I was so shocked, so numb, I didn't know what to do, what to think, what to feel. I'm little Miss Ideal, I have little pictures in my head of how things are supposed to be, and this was a massive curve ball. I don't recall much of that first night in hospital, they let D stay with me the night and Lottie was taken off to intensive care so I knew it wasn't good.

I remember looking at her in her incubator, wired up to the max, tubes here, there & everywhere, just in a nappy. I stood about a foot back, didn't want to get too close for some reason.
Then she had her heart test, that really was the worst moment ever but short lived as her heart was perfectly fine. It was after that that when I next saw her she was dressed, less tubes & wires and I held her for the first time since she'd been born and I breastfed her that I really feel in love. There was no going back from then on.

I was totally in love. I was besotted. She was so small, so quiet, so alert, those big dark eyes searching the room, she didn't cry, she just breathed us all in. Perfection, there in my arms, I'd made her and I was so, so proud, the same as all new mums.
Down's syndrome, oh yeah, that.

Well, I thought that eventually it would all catch up with me and my world would come crashing in. The realisation would hit me and I'd fall to pieces. I kept waiting. Tensed almost, waiting for the moment. It never happened. Well how could it?
Here she was, in my arms, this quiet, peaceful, beautiful girl, and the fact that she had DS just made her so special. Everyone's reaction was one of 'wow' and I realised that this wasn't going to be a problem, quite the reverse. Lottie was a celebrity within our group. The love and support was a positive and wonderful thing and everyone who knew us came together and it just felt great. She linked us all and she bought out the best in everyone. It was a magical and wonderful time.

So where I thought there would be sadness there was in fact such a strong feeling of love and therefore happiness, with everyone involved.

It's true I grieved for the child I thought we might have had and yes tears were still shed but the joy of having a new baby girl and all the normal happiness associated in having a baby far, far outweighed anything else.

We took her home and she settled right into our lives. Everyone is happy when a new baby joins your world but Lottie's special needs seem to create something more, something a bit special.

We just couldn't believe how easy it all was. She fed well, she slept through the night at day 8, she did everything she was 'supposed' to do. And over the past 4 years it's just got better and better.

People would ask 'how is it' and I could only ever answer 'wonderful'. People would say 'how are you coping?' and I could only ever say 'just fine, no problems at all'. She was just like any other baby, I don?t know what I was expecting to happen but it never did and I just settled back into family life and enjoyed it.
Like the posters for the DSA say 'Molly has Down's syndrome. She can't walk, talk or feed herself. But what 6 month old can'. Says it all really.

Yes as they get older their differences become more apparent but you grow with that. It's not like you're handed an alien and told to crack on. A baby with DS is just the same as any other baby. And later, at school when it's obvious they are a bit behind their pears, you and everyone else knows that and accepts it and you have speech and language support etc etc, and you just deal with it, it's how it is, and it's so not a problem.

Basically Donnie, I'm so happy I have Lottie in my life and embrace everything about her.

I just wanted to talk to you about that and maybe help to prepare you for the fact that, well, in reality there really isn't much to prepare yourself for.

I just hope that you and your husband can start to talk and understand each other. You really need to be singing from the same hymn sheet here and it sounds like you to have a lot of talking to do. I wish you luck with that. If there is anything I can do then you only have to say.

Please keep in touch.
TC x

hub2dee · 15/11/2005 15:04

Love reading your posts, TC.

misdee · 15/11/2005 20:49

thomcat

your lvoe for lottie shines through in all your posts about her. your joy is truely infectious.