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Ds1's Outward Bound Trip [long]

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moosemama · 13/03/2011 17:30

So, ds1 is going on his first ever overnight school trip in a couple of weeks. He will be leaving on the Friday morning and returning on the Sunday evening, so two nights away from home.

The trip is fundamentally an outward bounds/activity weekend and when they initially sent the letters out, I thought ds wouldn't want to go and was ready to book a weekend at Legoland for that weekend to give him an excuse for not going. When I first told him about it, he was adamant that he didn't want to go. Then he went into school, where all the other children were of course really excited about it and decided he did want to go - not least of all because his best friend is going.

The Head gave a talk about the trip at the parents' information evening in September and said that children are expected to be self-sufficient and the point of the trip is to develop independence. So, they will have a timetable and list of equipment on the wall in their rooms and will be be expected to work out where they need to be, decide what is appropriate clothing for the activity and make sure they are there on time and suitably equipped etc.

I spoke to the Head (who leads the trip) at his last IEP review and said I was concerned about this, as ds is not at all independent, in fact he has a very low-level of self-awareness and would need far more support than his peers. Dh offered to go along as a general helper, so that he cold be available to supervise ds if necessary, but if not could just be another pair of hands.

The Head assured me that he had already discussed ds going on the trip with his class teachers and that they were keen for him to go, felt it would be good for him and understood that he would need extra help. They also, very kindly, told us that he has already been allocated a bed in the same room as his best friend, as they knew how important that would be to him and that he would need to know in advance in order to prepare himself - the other children won't find out whose room they're in until they arrive.

Since then ds has had his OT assessment and been dx with hypotonia, some hypermobility, extremely low core strength and very poor upper body strength. The school has had a copy of the report and I have also made sure I listed his AS and hypotonia on the health form we had to fill in.

The thing is, as the trip approaches I'm getting more and more worried about how he'll cope and whether or not the school actually do realise just how much supervision he is going to need compared with his peers.

At school he is in a very familiar ordered environment with a set routine and of course, this is the only environment that any of them have ever had to handle ds in.

Its a very different story when you are out and about with him, the phrase 'like herding cats' springs to mind! Without someone gently guiding him he would easily step off the pavement into the road, get left behind as everyone moves on and he's in his own world, etc, etc.

Of course in my mind this all translates into him stepping off a cliff, falling in a lake or getting lost in the caves. Shock I know, I know [over anxious mother emoticon] Blush

The other thing is that he's been struggling to learn to swim and is still pretty much a non-swimmer after one and a half swimming courses. A lot of the activities on the trip involve water (canoeing, raft building etc) He told me yesterday that he's worried about a canoe capsising and him not being able to get out or turn it over - I told him he doesn't have to do any of the activities he doesn't want to do - but to honest I have been thinking the same thing - I can't imagine him being able to roll a canoe with his low upper body and core strength.

So, how to I go about approaching the school to explain exactly what the issues are and how best to handle them? He has an IEP review a week before the trip, but they're always tight on time and I don't think we will be able to cover both the SEN and trip stuff in the time allocated.

Should I write to the Head with a list of my concerns, so that he has time to think about and address them, then get back to me - or would it be better to ask for a meeting specifically to discuss it all?

I don't want to come across as a paranoid and over-anxious mother - even though that's what I am Blush - but I would like some reassurances that all the school and activity centre staff will be made aware of ds's needs and will supervise him accordingly.

Any thoughts ladies?

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moosemama · 03/04/2011 18:09

Growly - I have giant toblerone that ds2 bought me for mother's day. Grin

LittleMissGreen, he'll be fine, if my ds can go and enjoy himself, anyone can.

I'm now thinking the teachers are probably all thinking I'm a proper over-anxious mother, as he's been really good all weekend, effectively rendering my briefing notes etc useless. Blush

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growlybear · 03/04/2011 18:22

moose chuck the biscuit out the window have tea and toblerone instead and enjoy the rest of the day just tell the inclusion people that aliens invaded your house overnight:o .As for the teachers it really only shows you care and that you wanted them to prepared for all eventualities.
littlemissgreen am sure that he will have a fab time.

EllenJane1 · 03/04/2011 18:54

So glad he had a great time, and much better that your contingency plans weren't needed! Now for the important question: is he wearing 3 pairs of socks and pants?

growlybear · 03/04/2011 18:57

and secondly did he change them:o :o :o

moosemama · 03/04/2011 19:07
Grin

One pair of each! Shock

BUT .....

They were the same pairs he left home in on Friday morning - despite having had a shower! Confused

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moosemama · 03/04/2011 19:07

Still haven't started the housework - but dh is mopping the kitchen floor. Wink

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Ineedalife · 03/04/2011 19:08

Soo glad he had a good time moose, one thing I forgot to warn you about though!!

I always empty the bag/suitcase on the patio cos usually its not pleasantGrin

moosemama · 03/04/2011 19:11

Thanks for that advice, Indigo. We haven't ventured as far as his suitcase yet - I'll make sure to warn dh (no way I'm risking it myself Grin).

Actually, his suitcase is covered with mud on the outside anyway, it seems he managed to drop it in a puddle. Hmm

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EllenJane1 · 03/04/2011 19:18

Same pants and socks seem to be obligatory after a mere three days! But managing to have a shower and not change them is impressive! Do you think he wore them in the shower? Shock

growlybear · 03/04/2011 19:46

yeh whats on the inside is probably caked in mud too.I ususally unpack on the lawn and let it have an airing before giving it to the washing machine.
Can remember thinking the same thing about pants and socks re my nt son at similar age only to be told oh i didnt have time for a shower mum.At which stage i winced and thought its going to be a smelly ride home-things have changed though cant get him out the shower now.:o

signandsmile · 03/04/2011 20:18

Yay mooseling! I am really pleased all went well, Grin

Tiggles · 03/04/2011 20:54

Grin at the socks, that is soooo going to be my DS, although we have been working really hard on that for the last few weeks in anticipation! Reading the tips about unpacking outside with interest.
Been practising putting his duvet in its cover as they have to do that when they first arrive, he is now worrying that the cover may be different to his so he still may not be able to do it Hmm.

moosemama · 03/04/2011 21:11

Right, have finished the living room, although it still resembles an overstocked toyshop. The kitchen has been mopped and tidied, but has a mountain of paperwork in the middle of the table - some of which needs filing before tomorrow's meeting. Dogs bed's have been boil washed and are in the dryer - shame I can't do the same with the stinky dogs really Grin. Not really much point in cleaning the bathroom until after the mess monsters boys have gone to school in the morning and I can't vacuum the hall, stairs and landing because the dcs are in bed. Thank goodness they won't have a reason for going upstairs or their opinion of me would definitely take a turn for the worse. Grin

Now I really do need to actually prepare for tomorrow's meeting, although I haven't actually got a clue where to start.

LittleMissGreen, we were told to practise getting their sleeping bags back into their tiny little bags - ds didn't stand a cat in hell's chance judging by his performance in our living room. He did say the Head helped him a bit with his packing, so I'm assuming he did it for him.

Apparently he didn't wear his pants in the shower - he put the same ones back on afterwards. Confused Shock

He's just come downstairs in floods of tears, can't sleep because he's so distraught that he'll never see the place again - he said every time he thinks of his weekend he starts to cry again. Nothing I did or said could calm him down. Apparently he did the same before they left, according to the Head and two other teachers. He always does it as we leave our holiday home as well, but this time he's worse, because he know's he's unlikely to ever go back there. Poor little thing. Sad

Have deposited his suitcase in the back porch and am hoping for fair weather tomorrow for unpacking purposes, as dh has chickened out not got round to it.

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TheNinjaGooseIsOnAMission · 04/04/2011 15:47

how'd it go moose?

Tiggles · 04/04/2011 16:20

Just what I was about to ask ninja! Hope the house impresed them.

Ds packed and ready to go, although did have minor panic when realised that his only decent pair of pyjamas need washing, and the socks coaching gone a bit too well as he has worn all the special wooly socks requested, so frantic wash tonight!! Looks like we need to work on getting socks to the washing bin next. Grin

moosemama · 04/04/2011 18:28

Sad Not good. Well actually the meeting was very good, the inclusion team are amazing and totally behind us and ds. Unfortunately, having been into the school she has discovered they have kept almost no evidence, even down to missing IEPs FFS! Angry They had literally no evidence of interventions that I mentioned and she had no idea that ds had even had that support.

They have a stack evidence of need, but almost none of having tried to meet his needs from within their own budget. Angry

The fact that we are now on our third SENCO since ds was formally brought to their attention in September 2009 and we are just about to get yet another new one after Easter has compounded things. The new SENCO sounds very good and extremely highly qualified though. The inclusion team have heard really good things about her and have booked to see her almost as soon as she starts after the holidays - specifically to push ds's statementing issue.

The good news is that because of all records I've kept (thanks MN) Grin) the evidence I have at home, she thinks they can fast-track things so-to-speak and should have enough evidence by the next half-term.

She also thinks that if we proceed in the way we discussed today, (mahoosive evidence gathering exercise, driven by my records in order for the school to 'locate' the necessary evidence) and then squeeze in a couple of extra IEP reviews, based on her experience she thinks there will be no problem getting him a statement from our LEA. I mentioned the loss of Legal Aid from SEN Tribunals etc and she said, with what she's seen of my records etc, it won't come to that.

I am so bloody furious with the school, particularly the first bloody SENCO who was basically coasting, waiting to retire and did sweet FA for months - years even, but am trying to calm down as there's no point in wasting energy on her now.

I also found out that I was right and they hadn't even heard of our school before I brought them in to support ds. They are now actively involved with lots of children at the school as a result, same with the EPs. Basically without me fighting for ds, not one of the children with ASD in the school would have been identified, let alone supported. Angry Still things are changing now and at least some good has come out of this almightly balls-up even if it has come at a price for my poor ds1. Sad

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moosemama · 04/04/2011 18:28

LittleMissGreen - we had the last minute PJ wash as well!

When does he go?

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growlybear · 04/04/2011 18:37

littlemissgreen good luck with the getting the socks into the wash bin:o sure that one is a male complaint.Hope your ds enjoys his trip.
Moose glad you had a good meeting but sorry about the school but it kind of brings home just how important it is to keep all the papaer work together.Hopefully you can sit down and put your feet up later and have that tea and toblerone.

EllenJane1 · 04/04/2011 18:46

Blimey, moose. Hopefully the newish Head has been a new broom and with your new SENCo you should get things moving.

Just as a matter of interest, how much time does the new SENCo get as SENCo? In my DS's school, 7 classes one form entry primary, we get one morning/week.

In the school I work in, 8 classes, 2 form entry junior, the SENCo gets 5 mornings/week. Very different way of working.

TheNinjaGooseIsOnAMission · 04/04/2011 19:00

moose, it's a huge bonus to have someone on your side, at least your records are good even if the school get a big fat fail on that one, what on earth do they think they are playing at!

littlemissgreen, hope all goes as well for you, have you sorted the sock crisis?

moosemama · 04/04/2011 19:17

Ellen, its a two form entry primary and the SENCO is two days a week - for 60 children on the SEN Register. Nowhere near enough! Worse than that, for half of this year the Head was acting SENCO and just had to fit it in where he could. He did his best, but obviously with nowhere near enough time, let alone the appropriate knowledge and skills.

I'd say its been a comedy of errors from start to finish - if it was funny. Hmm

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Tiggles · 04/04/2011 19:23

:( Sorry to hear that.
DS sock crisis being sorted as we 'speak', he doesn't leave until Wednesday but we have a visitor staying on Tuesday so that wouldn't be the best time to try and pack. Currently suffering from D&V, hoping it isn't a bug, but down to the tea that the dear DSs made for me without help on mothers day in a teapot that is never used so probably full of dust. Just about ready for bed! Typically DH is away...

EllenJane1 · 04/04/2011 19:40

Hmm, that's halfway between what I think of as nowhere near enough and about right! So not enough, then. And even less while the HT's been 'covering.' No wonder their paperwork is non existent.

Good luck Master LittleMissGreen! I'm sure someone will help with the quilt cover issue. My DS2 is going for a week in May. I'm thinking paper disposable pants?

moosemama · 04/04/2011 19:45

Sorry to hear you are poorly LittleMissGreen, hope you're better really soon.

Ellen, I know - but not having copies of his IEPs fgs - absolutely no excuse!

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EllenJane1 · 04/04/2011 19:49

No, no excuse. Even 1/2 day a week should be enough to keep up with paperwork. Bet HT was doing less than the bare minimum.