Raven
'in my expereince within my own life i have not seen a significant improvement above any other therapy'
That is a perfectly okay thing to say. However it doesn't mean that ABA doesn't work.
'i am not spouting misimformation i speak of 4 year observing a very close family go through this therapy and many others total cost was £100, 000 yes you read that correct ! luckily for them bank of mummy helped to pay off morgage and fund endless trails etc'
You see this is why I really don't think you know what ABA is. It is an approach, not something you need to throw money at. Money doesn't teach children skills.
'forgive me if i am wrong but i thought it was about the child improving and i have not seen this. i am not saying that does not work but i am saying what i have witnessed has not impressed me.'
This is the same as saying it doesn't work isn't it? I don't know if you had a mad rougue trader in your area charging a bomb or what on earth was going on, but you quite clearly have not seen a proper ABA programme.
'one example would be the child could say name a hundred animals big wow! personally i would settle for my kids throwing their arms around me and laughing. which mine do every day'
Again, I'm not really sure what you mean. My ds engages, smiles at me and even uses body language to communicate. He doesn't know many animals because they don't interest him however if he did we would have used that to hook other essential skills onto which meant that learning another animal would have been his reward for, say holding a pencil correctly, consequently he will eventually learn hundreds.
'for me its not about fitting in its about feeling love and affection'
How can a child feel love and affection if they are sitting under the table spinning all day, getting anxious when anyone tries to get their attention? 'Fitting in' is a part of socialisation and a tool with which to seek love and affection.
'perhaps you find me coming on here and voicing my own experience not to your liking but i cant change that'
I doubt sincerely that anyone minds you coming on here and voicing your experiences. But if you are going to extrapolate from your experiences and give advice based on feelings rather than facts it is reasonable for them to be challenged.
'like i have said in my earlier posts i believe there are elements good and bad in every teaching method'
No. Some teaching methods are truly appalling. Not all teaching methods are equal.
'no method is the total answer as all children are different.'
ABA is individualised to the child. The 'method' is quite irrelevant provided it works and you can provide EVIDENCE of this and are clear what your definition of 'working' is.
'as parents we do our best that is all we have no parent wants to hinder progress but neither is one way the only aba is just another therapy.'
Sure. But you need then to be careful that you give facts not opinions to a poster looking for answers.
'albeit a very expensive one with poor results for all its cracked up to be.
It can cost nothing and I would absolutely concur that if you see no results there is something very very wrong with the teaching (NOT ABA)
for those who are doing this i wish them well but please just because i happen to disagree do not tell me i have no right.
You have a right to disagree to anything, but it isn't helpful to have no reason except for your own personal feelings, without being able to justify your reasons using evidence and concrete examples such as the actual provider that delivered the ABA that you feel was so awful. This would have also been helpful to the OP in order to make sure she could avoid them.
'aba is not gospel combination of different methods i believe help children that and common sense sadly lacking in the world'
Okay, so what if one approach was to shout for 5 minutes at bad behaviour and another was to completely ignore it? How would combining these two approaches be better than one?