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Our world is getting smaller each year- now family holidays are impossible

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Jimjams · 26/08/2005 14:24

Just back from our latest campervan trip. In some ways it was a success. DS1 was asleep by 9pm - away from home he usually can't settle/sleep at all (last 2 trips to a hotel he's been up screaming at midnight and clawing at the door for example).

But it was sooooo difficult. Because ds1 cannot go outside the van without someone to hold his had (and because he wanted to be out all the time). It meant that one person had to go off with him whilst the other one had to look after a 3 year old, a 7 month old and do all the cooking etc. All the jobs that needed doing (toilet emptying, washing up etc) could only be done once ds1 was settled so tended to be done about 10.30. Couldn't have a shower except at night. Obviously could hardly have a conversation with dh. And of course once outside ds1 doesn't want to do anything conventional - he wants to walk some route he;s set up, sniff fans in the shop, have a 10 second visit tot the washing machine, flit into the diabled toilet and flit off somewhere else. DS2 wanted to go to the playground and half the time had to wait because there was no-one to take him- one person couldnt manage ds1 and ds2.

The kids all loved it, but I hated the person the stress turned me into. Usually I can kind of switch off from the screaming but I found it really hard in such a small, enclosed space. And the constant flittiness of ds1 and his need to go out and then trying to set boundaries (no you can't go into that person's tend, walk down the back of that caravan etc).

Ds1 loved the holiday so much he cried when we got home.

So we will go again, but only with him, and we'll take the other 2 on a separate holiday. Of course I realise we are very lucky to even have that option. With 2 adults to ds1 alone its entirely manageable. We can't take a week off and do day trips from home because we struggle to think of anywhere ds1 can manage, and then we still have to manage 3 of them- 2 with a totally different agenda to ds1.

When I think back to when ds1 was 2- we went to France (ferry trips went off the agenda after last years trip to Ireland), we were able to sit on the beach with a bucket and spade (haven't managed to do that since), stay in a cottage (screams all the time now), eat in a restaurant and various cafes (havent done that for years). Our world seems to be shrinking and I struggle to think of anything we can do as a family now. We can't even vist any of dh's family (too far away- so nowhere we can stay, for his sister, and his parents are a ferry ride or plane ride away- both impossible).

I know we're not the only ones in this situation (hello Davros), but feeling mightily fed up with it all and a bit self-indulgent.. Seems a bt of shame we can;t even manage to do something that ds1 enjoys (there aren't many things that fit that category!)

Anyway now we keep being taken outside to look at the campervan. We're back early and I hope the owners pick it up early otherwise we're going to be doing a lot of walking up and down the street.

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Enid · 26/08/2005 14:26

lots and lots of love to you jimjams and I am truly sorry it was so stressful.

I hope other mumsnetters can give you some helpful advice.

I am glad ds1 enjoyed it though

x E

Fio2 · 26/08/2005 14:28

sorry you are back early

Twiglett · 26/08/2005 14:28

Hi Jimjams

sorry it wasn't an easy holiday, of course my natural inclination is to reach out and try to help but I know there's nothing I could say that could possibly help still didn't want the post to pass without acknowledging that I 'heard' it

Twiglett · 26/08/2005 14:28

thought of something .. could you afford to have someone else come with you to offer a little respite?

katierocket · 26/08/2005 14:29

oh jimjams sorry to hear that this wasn't exactly a holiday for you. It is lovely that DS1 had a great time but I can only begin to understand how frustrating it must be. I wish I had something more helpful to say.

Jimjams · 26/08/2005 14:34

TBH Fio I'm stunned we managed to make it to today The first night was dreadful as he got completely fixated on running madly on a 10 yard weird radius of the van and wouldn't go any further. Spent a lot of the time screaming. We almost gave up then. Glad we didn't though as the place we stayed at for 3 nights was lovely (very small, very autism friendly- the owner- "he can't talk? aww dear of him, shame, he loves our fans doesn't he?" was very understanding- - and he even went in a pool for 10 minutes. We didn't have anywhere booked tonight (you have to book the entire weekend if you do it in advance- bank holiday) and we were planning to come home tomorrow afternoon anyway.

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mizmiz · 26/08/2005 14:34

Sounds very stressful jimjams. Was about to say what twiglett has said. Alternatively,have you thought about leaving him at home? I know many families who have done this,reluctantly at first,but then with increased confidence and lack of guilt as they have realised that the concept of a holiday is of little import to their child.

Jimjams · 26/08/2005 14:35

It's the only way it would work Twiglett. I don't think my mum would do it though (she would be mad to!), which would mean ppaying someone to sleep in a tent and look after ds2 and ds3. Pricey though. My mum WILL have ds2 and ds3 for us though so we can take ds1 away.

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Fio2 · 26/08/2005 14:37

it costs me 5 pound an hour to pay a young girl to watch penny, that would be ALOT of money for a WHOLE week

Jimjams · 26/08/2005 14:38

We've already left him once this year at home MizMiz. He really enjoys the campervan (to the point where he can be sent over so we have to be a bit careful) so I really want to take him. His life is so limited anyway I don't really want to take that away from him. Ideally I guess we'd own our own and take him for long weekends, odd nights, and ditto the other two. That's not going to happen though `

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Fio2 · 26/08/2005 14:38

oh crikey, i typed that with my daughters name in on accident

Jimjams · 26/08/2005 14:38

exactly fio- one years worth of direct payments in one week!

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mizmiz · 26/08/2005 14:40

Is a campervan the right choice then? How about camping or a log cabin thingy? Saw a great website the other day advertising cabins in national forests in the UK. Would that suit? Lots and lots of place to run?

marthamoo · 26/08/2005 14:41

jimjams - I'm sorry it was such hard work. Sounds like the kids enjoyed it - not much of a holiday for you and dh though.

Twiglett · 26/08/2005 14:43

aren't there any respite holiday type homes? or is that a really really stupid question (apologies if it is)

mizmiz · 26/08/2005 14:43

Another thing is that I've known school assistants (usually young single girls with bags of energy but not much cash) who have been employed to accompany families.
A holiday and nights off is often a fair exchange for some supervision in the day.
(A nursery nurse I know looked after a young baby for a week while the family went skiing. She was paid £200.)

Twiglett · 26/08/2005 14:44

have worked out that is a stupid question for children who thrive on routine, sorry

just following the story of how succesful his school has been wondering if there was a similar place that you and DS2 and 3 could camp nearby and DS could go on day release

Twiglett · 26/08/2005 14:45

A nursery nurse I know looked after a young baby for a week while the family went skiing. She was paid £200.)

totally and utterly shocked and appalled by that statement

macwoozy · 26/08/2005 14:46

Sorry to hear you had a real stressful time, so much for holidays being relaxing.

mizmiz · 26/08/2005 14:46

Twiglett,I know,I know.
I couldn't believe it myself on all counts. (Told the girl she was mad too.)

Fio2 · 26/08/2005 14:47

the thing is and dont think i am being disrespectful mizmiz, 200 pound is alot of money on top of the price of your holiday especially if the only holiday you can afford is a low budget one, do ykwim? as for respite, it is very very hard to get a place in a respite home. As far as I am aware, they tend to give the places to older children with developmental, behavioural AND medical problems, or children with very life limiting, life expectancy problems

mizmiz · 26/08/2005 14:49

I know Fio. I am just trying to throw out suggestions as I know many people in this difficult situation.Trying now to remember the name of the charity which gives grants to parents in order for children with sn to have a holiday.....

Fio2 · 26/08/2005 14:49

well actually 200 pound is ok for a 'student'

kick me if I am wrong

Fio2 · 26/08/2005 14:50

family fund, but you have to earn 23k else you get nil

Fio2 · 26/08/2005 14:50

earn under i mean