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Could I have an Asian perspective on this please

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Eeett1 · 11/08/2023 21:01

Hi Asian mumsnetters. I posted this thread in AIBU but I don’t think they understand the cultural complications. I’m Asian and having issues with my husband. Could you please read my posts on this and give me your perspective taking into account I come from a very strict Asian upbringing and the issues that come along with the stigma of divorce. Thank you!

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/4869760-husband-stormed-off?page=3&reply=128343575

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Husband just stormed off as I told him I’m upset we’re not intimate anymore. He said it’s my fault as I fight everyday with him. For context I don’t f...

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/4869760-husband-stormed-off?page=3&reply=128343575

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Sunny388 · 11/08/2023 21:12

Hi I've read your posts, I am also an Asian woman who's married and in my mid 30s. In order for me to try and give you some advice can I please ask what religion you are as I read from your post that you are religious.

Eeett1 · 11/08/2023 21:17

Hi I’m Sikh. In all honesty I’m actually not religious it’s more the cultural aspect. But as I wanted to be vague on there I said I’m religious. My family and his family are very cultural rather than religious so divorce would mean my family would definitely stop talking to me. There’s only one aunty thst I know is divorced and family has cast her aside. Didn’t matter what husband did they still blamed her for testing family apart. I was introduced to husband and had full right to decline but he was so sweet and seemed to be into me so I said yes to the marriage. We met up for over a year till I said yes

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Eeett1 · 11/08/2023 21:17

Tearing

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pickledandpuzzled · 11/08/2023 21:18

Bump

greeen · 11/08/2023 21:26

I'm so sorry to hear what you're going through. Is there any chance at all he would try therapy / counselling with you? Is he any more inclined to be intimate at the times you don't 'fight' with him? Or does he just come up with other excuses

Sunny388 · 11/08/2023 21:26

I think it is very selfish of your husband to treat you like this, have any family members tried talking to him about his behaviour towards you.

Eeett1 · 11/08/2023 21:27

We’ve had so many good days so I think it’s an excuse. We even went on holiday just us not with the kids and he didn’t want to be intimate. Tried therapy but was a waste of time.

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yummytummy · 11/08/2023 21:27

hi op. sorry to hear of your difficulties. it isn't ok for someone to treat you like this. things are changing now even in asian communities and divorce is becoming more accepted. i know it is difficult and not what you would ideally want but no religion is ok with you being treated like that. do you have any elder family members or anyone who could talk to your husband who he would listen to? just as a first step

Eeett1 · 11/08/2023 21:28

@yummytummy i don’t feel able to talk to elders about this.

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yummytummy · 11/08/2023 21:30

i know it is an uncomfortable topic but i thought more older relatives he may respect and listen to. you don't necessarily have to be explicit and spell it out they should get your meaning

greeen · 11/08/2023 21:34

He sounds awful and like he just isn't interested. Did you ever confront him about the emails you found? It sounds like you've tired different ways of trying to sort it out but not much is working. Are you close with your family? Would have support from any siblings at all if you ended things? Is he a good dad?

greeen · 11/08/2023 21:40

Agree with @yummytummy things have certainly changed for the better and communities are much more accepting of divorce. My mother separated from my terrible father back in the early 90s with 5 kids and no job and no money. She was totally shunned by the community and they made her life so hard but she had a few amazing friends who helped her get through hard times. It was the hardest thing she ever did full of tears but she came out the other end so much happier and I don't think she would go back and change a thing she did. I mean she's still a bit old school and never filed for an actual divorce but in reality, he's never been a part of our lives since.

SanRaz1 · 11/08/2023 21:40

hi, I’ve read your post. unfortunately divorce is still taboo in some sections of the Asian community. But, that doesn’t mean it isn’t an option. If there is no chance of your husband changing his behaviour towards you then either you continue as you are or choose the divorce route. It may mean you will be ostracised but for your own happiness, sanity and self respect, it might be the best option.

If divorce is definitely not something you will consider, can you speak to an elder in your family or community about your situation?

something has to change to make things better for both you and your children. Unfortunately, I don’t think your husband will change.

greeen · 11/08/2023 21:43

Have you had a registry as well as a Sikh wedding? I know often with Muslims they'll only have the Islamic wedding and not the legal registry so aren't then recognised as married under law but not sure if Sikhs do the same?

Eeett1 · 11/08/2023 21:44

Yes legally married.

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Sd352 · 11/08/2023 21:55

How is your relationship with your parents? Could you speak to them first to see what they say? While divorce is still taboo in many south Asian communities, things are changing.

Do you have a support network outside of family that you could lean on if you have to? At some point, it is best to try to ignore the “log kya kahenge” fears and do what works for you.

Eeett1 · 11/08/2023 22:10

My relationship with parents are not good. They’re mentality is that I’m married now so their job is done and not their problem.

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greeen · 12/08/2023 18:15

Sounds like you would be better off without him but you will need to do some planning and looking into what your options are for leaving. I've found if a man doesn't want to change himself, no woman or man is going to change him be it his wife mother or a respected elder. Do what's best for your sanity and your DC and forget what people will say if they are already unsupportive, will you be missing out on much without them. Going it alone isn't easy but think about if can you spend the next 30 years living like this.

Xeren · 15/08/2023 18:31

Hi OP, sorry to hear that you’ve been going through this. I know plenty of Muslim women who divorced from unhappy marriages. Yes, they were gossiped about and shunned and guess what? They’re all much happier now and some are even remarried to nicer partners. And over time, they were back in the community (because people have short memories and there’s always someone new to gossip about).

It sounds though you’re not ready to leave (and that’s ok). So here are a couple of suggestions…

  • Firstly stop expecting any intimacy from him. It’s not going to happen and the more you argue over it, the more you bring yourself down (he might even like the attention you give him because you’re so bothered about it!). Start pulling yourself away from him emotionally and refocus on YOU (and your children).
  • What do you like to do? Do you have any interests or hobbies? Any new skills you would like to learn? Any fitness goals? If you have some spare time, start investing in these things. It’s a good way to positively distract yourself from your unhappy marriage, widen your horizons, boost your confidence and make you happier.
  • Pour time and energy in your children. Enjoy them. If he’s not around or always on his phone, plan nice outings with the kids and make wonderful memories. Don’t wait around for him. Pour your love into them.
  • Don’t expect your community, the elders or your parents to understand or support you. They think you should just deal with it and will minimise your feelings. Spend more time cultivating friends and a social life. You don’t need to confide about your marriage if you’re not comfortable talking about it. Just enjoy being yourself and having a laugh. If you have the time, go out with friends - coffees, meals, the cinema or even just time to have a chat on the phone.
  • If you have the money to, you may benefit from seeing a therapist. You’ve been minimised a lot, it may really help to speak to someone who’ll listen. Choose a therapist from a similar background as yourself so they’ll understand your cultural and religious implications. You can search for Asian female therapists online.
  • In the other post you said that you have an entry level job. That’s amazing! Is there any opportunity for career development? As the kids get older and more independent, will you be able to work more hours? Focusing and improving your career is also a great area to focus your energy on and will help boost your finances if you do choose to separate in the future.
  • Do you have your own bank account. If not, get one and start saving.
  • You said that the house and mortgage is just in his name. Do you financially contribute to the house at all? When you feel ready to, speak to a lawyer (privately) over your rights to the house as you are legally married. I know the house hasn’t been paid off, but it would be good to know what you’re entitled to.

It’s really about mentally and emotionally pulling away from him and start focusing on yourself.

A warning - he will start noticing changes when you become less bothered and will try to charm you back into a false sense of security, but do NOT believe him.

This man tricked you into marrying him while offering other women money for sexual favours. He wants the veneer of a ‘perfect’ family image while treating you like shit behind close doors. And whatever you do don’t tell him about your finances, he’ll try to use this information to control or scare you.

I hope everything turns out well for you - good luck! 💐

bungletru · 20/08/2023 20:30

I’m sorry. I’m the same as you and quite frankly using religion or culture not to divorce is not good enough.

you are a person and human first. You’re with a man who has looked elsewhere for sex and won’t have sex with his wife.

I would leave. You are showing you don’t value yourself and what you have to offer. He sounds like an asshole. You deserve better but you just don’t see it.

Worldisacircus · 24/08/2023 12:00

yummytummy · 11/08/2023 21:30

i know it is an uncomfortable topic but i thought more older relatives he may respect and listen to. you don't necessarily have to be explicit and spell it out they should get your meaning

I agree with this. Please speak to someone. I’m sure there will be a way to resolve.

Worldisacircus · 24/08/2023 14:40

This sounds like a great advice from @Xeren ❤️

Xeren · 27/08/2023 01:01

Worldisacircus · 24/08/2023 14:40

This sounds like a great advice from @Xeren ❤️

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Thank you ☺️

AlhambraQueen · 08/11/2023 17:48

The fact that he has messaged other women for sex would be the end for me, it shows he has no respect for you. Please make plans to leave.

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