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Can you still do green and red days?

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lris · 18/02/2021 23:38

Hello. I lost a couple of stone doing red and green days about 15 years ago. My weight has fluctuated in the meantime, and I now find myself back where I started, due to snacking and general bad habits.

I don't want to rejoin, never enjoyed the classes (image therapy, ugh), all the happy clappy nonsense. But I did do well on the plan.

Would I be successful going it alone, based on the information I can find online?

Typically, I would use HEXAs for milk in cereal, tea and coffee. HEXB for all bran or oats with fruit for breakfast. Lots of fish, lean meats and veg for lunch / dinner and syn alpen bars and muller lights if I needed a snack.

Does that sound okay? Is it within the current rules, as I know things have changed a lot over the years. I just don't want to be bothered with extra easy, as I never got my head around it. I need something quick and easy to follow for a few months to get me on track and back into better habits.

I do cook from scratch, and I don't drink alcohol, please tell me it's feasible.

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diege · 22/03/2021 17:56

That is a good weight loss iris!
Really liking the meal plan ideas too. I'm lacking inspiration - am getting into the same old rut of baked potato, beans, 2 Quorn sausages and grated cheese EVERY bloomin day for lunch so am going to push the boat out and have a sweet potato, beans, broccoli and carrots for lunch...
I am a big tweaker so consistently have a buttermilk pancake for breakfast (err HXB 🤣). Also a fan of ryvita and my syns rich Ts, cream eggs and walnut whips.

lris · 22/03/2021 20:36

I suppose the beauty of a virtual group is that there is time to discuss our progress and meal ideas, and get ongoing support and encouragement from others. As well as being free.

When I attended group in the past, so much time was spent weighing everybody, selling the hifi bars and scan bran, and passing down the latest news from the higher echelons. That left about twenty seconds each to rush through why you had lost or gained, agonising over staying the same despite a weekend in the pub and a takeaway or two. There seemed to be no time for questions or discussions.

That's what I like about this thread, it's daily support, everyone sharing their ideas and experiences, and all are welcome. Smile

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NancyDrawed · 23/03/2021 07:01

Day 30
70.0kg
Green

Breakfast: HEA milk for coffees, Belvita
Lunch: Quorn mince lasagne (3 syns I think) or pasta pesto HEB cheese (2 syns for half tbs pesto)
Supper: Lentil dal and rice or JP and quorn chilli

(Syns total yesterday - 19.5)

Your summary of going to group is spot on. They always seemed so keen for people to stay, but it generally didn't help. I prefer this virtual group by far!

diege · 23/03/2021 08:58

Group a mixed experience for me. I was part of the social team at one point, but that's when I was at target, and never really had much to say in group anyway by that point. Agree about the endless angst about maintaining while 'being naughty' 😆 at the weekend and then wondering why...I don't miss the 10am Saturday weigh ins either...Missing tea out on the Friday, no liquids and as many trips to the toilet as possible, just to shave off 0.5 pounds. ...Happy days! Grin
Planning the following today as was over syns yesterday for the sake of a couple of late night biscuits (my nemesis). Planning on...

Breakfast: pancake (HEB) tea, coffee
Lunch: baked potato with beans, 2 Quorn sausages, grated cheese. Apple.
Tea: homemade veggie curry with half a naan (HEB??!!). Low fat M&S choc pudding (7 syns)
Aiming to miss out the cream egg with a cup of tea before bed, though will see how that goes...

lris · 23/03/2021 09:49

Day 30 Green.

Yogurt and fruit. Tea with milk HEXA.

Rice salad. Rice with peas, sweetcorn and half a teaspoon of turmeric. Chuck everything in a pan, add boiling water, simmer for 5 minutes. Huge portion, very filling, tasty, a green day staple for me.

More tea, water, apple, Alpen light bar HEXB.

Jacket potato and chilli beans.

A bit carb heavy today, but better than eating cake. Smile

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NancyDrawed · 23/03/2021 17:23

I've just found out that a can of coconut milk ranges anywhere from 21.5 syns (using the 20cals = 1 syn on the info on the can) to 39 depending on brand!

It goes into the dahl makhani that DS chose for supper (compared to a different recipe syn free one) I was going to have some too. I'll just have to be strict with portion size - if I split the difference and go for 30 syns, then split the recipe into 6 portions, it doesn't seem so bad. Bit of a shocker though!!

lris · 23/03/2021 17:54

That is shocking, and it just goes to show how the extra syns can creep in.

Good spot. Smile

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NancyDrawed · 24/03/2021 06:02

Day 31
69.8kg

Breakfast: Coffee and Belvita (HEA)
Lunch: Pasta pesto tomato HEB cheese (2syns)
Supper: Quorn chilli and rice

Total syns yesterday 20.5 (belvita 6.5, kit kat chunky snack size 32g 8 (looked it up online) and lentil dhal 6)

lris · 24/03/2021 09:07

Day 31 Green.

Mango and grapes. Tea with milk HEXA.

Rice salad, as yesterday. I added red pepper, forgot to mention, also tomatoes and cucumber.

More tea, water, apple, mullerlight, Alpen light bar HEXB.

Jacket and chilli beans.

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NancyDrawed · 25/03/2021 07:11

Day32
69.8kg

B: HEA milk and Belvita
L: Leftover Pan Haggerty (HEB)
S: Quorn chilli and rice and poss HEB cheese

Total syns yesterday 21 (6.5 Belvita, 6.5 bag of crisps 8 small KitKat chunky). Had pan haggerty for supper in the end

I found some old SW magazines and the Pan Haggerty was from one of those, syn free on Green. Basically thinly sliced potatoes layered in a medium sized, oven safe frying pan with dry fried onions and 112g grated cheddar (4 x HEB portions). Final two layers potato and cheese, then 3 beaten eggs poured over the top. Cooked on the hob until turning brown underneath and then finished in the oven. Nice enough, but a bit bland! I had some brocolli with it and a good amount of black pepper. If you did some sort of quorn mince thing it'd probably go well as a side with veg.

GoLightlyontheEarth · 25/03/2021 08:06

Could someone explain how the old red and green system works please?

lris · 25/03/2021 08:29

@GoLightlyontheEarth, it's basically food combining.

You choose a red day or a green day. On red days, it's unlimited meat or fish, but rice, pasta and potatoes are limited.

On green days, rice, pasta and potatoes are unlimited, but you have to limit meat and fish.

Some things are free on both days. Fruit, most veg.

Healthy extras allow you milk, cheese, nuts, certain breakfast cereals, wholemeal bread, olive oil and the like, but you have to weigh and measure.

Everything else, processed foods, cakes, pastries, crisps, chips, takeaways, chocolate, sweets etc has a syn value. Syns are limited to an agreed number each week.

The best way to get a handle on it would be to join the 'Old School Red and Green' Facebook group. There you can access the books that are issued in group, which explain the system an give an extensive list of free foods, healthy extras and syn values.

One word of warning, if you join SW these days, they promote Extra Easy (EE), which is a hybrid of the old method. As an old timer, I prefer the red and green days, hence this thread. This is a chat thread for those who have lost weight on red and green in the past.

I hope that wasn't to confusing! Smile

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lris · 25/03/2021 08:36

Day 32 Red.

Yogurt and fruit. Tea with milk HEXA.

Mushroom omelette and salad.

More tea, apple, mullerlight, Alpen light bar, water.

Chicken and veg traybake. Chicken thighs, lemon, herbs, frylight, sweet potatoes (HEXB), red pepper, onions, green beans.

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GoLightlyontheEarth · 25/03/2021 15:35

[quote lris]@GoLightlyontheEarth, it's basically food combining.

You choose a red day or a green day. On red days, it's unlimited meat or fish, but rice, pasta and potatoes are limited.

On green days, rice, pasta and potatoes are unlimited, but you have to limit meat and fish.

Some things are free on both days. Fruit, most veg.

Healthy extras allow you milk, cheese, nuts, certain breakfast cereals, wholemeal bread, olive oil and the like, but you have to weigh and measure.

Everything else, processed foods, cakes, pastries, crisps, chips, takeaways, chocolate, sweets etc has a syn value. Syns are limited to an agreed number each week.

The best way to get a handle on it would be to join the 'Old School Red and Green' Facebook group. There you can access the books that are issued in group, which explain the system an give an extensive list of free foods, healthy extras and syn values.

One word of warning, if you join SW these days, they promote Extra Easy (EE), which is a hybrid of the old method. As an old timer, I prefer the red and green days, hence this thread. This is a chat thread for those who have lost weight on red and green in the past.

I hope that wasn't to confusing! Smile[/quote]
Thanks that’s so helpful. You’ve made it so clear. Are carbs unlimited when you are on the right day then? I would never lose weight on that regime.

lris · 25/03/2021 16:44

On green days, certain carbs are unlimited, @GoLightlyontheEarth.

For example, potatoes, sweet potatoes, pulses, dried pasta and rice.

But things like fresh pasta and rice pouches are not, so you need to reference the lists (freely available on the Facebook group mentioned upthread) if you have never been to group and don't have your own books.

Weight loss on green days does tend to be slower than on red days.

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NancyDrawed · 26/03/2021 06:51

Day 33
69.6kg

B: HEA Milk and coffee, Belvita (6.5)
L: JP, Beans and cottage cheese
S: Quorn chilli and rice or pasta pesto tomatoes

Syns yesterday 24!! (belvita, bag crisps, kitkat (4 finger, 11 syns)
I'll not be buying the crisps again for the forseeable, the temptation is too great. I thought I'd bought a multipack of standard KKs but they were the 4 finger ones. Although that should mean that a standard 2 finger KK is 5.5, which is manageable for a treat - rather than an every day thing which I have fallen into this week.

Have a good weekend

diege · 26/03/2021 09:26

Plan for today as follows:

Breakfast: buttermilk pancake (tweak on HEXB 🤔) Tea with skimmed milk (HEA).
Lunch: baked potato, beans, cottage cheese. Apple.
Tea: (Fiancé is cooking for me at his house, so am thinking m&S veggie curry...oh dear...)
Have decided to limit my cream egg addiction to the weekends and just have rich teas as syns...I'm a little disheartened after the scales saying I've put on a pound since yesterday when yesterday was a textbook green day! 😫

lris · 26/03/2021 10:06

Day 33 Green.

Yogurt and fruit. Tea with milk HEXA.

Alpen light bar HEXB, more tea, banana, water, mullerlight.

Homemade spag bol. So loads of veg added to bulk out the mince (HEXB). Olive oil for cooking is 6 syns. Diet coke.

It's so hard to keep away from the chocolate at this time of year. I know that if I allow myself a chocolate bar, I won't be able to stop. It's not fair! Grin

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lris · 27/03/2021 08:08

Day 34 Green.

Yogurt with strawberries and blueberries. Tea with milk HEXA.

Mushroom omelette with grilled tomatoes.

More tea, water, banana, mullerlight.

Homemade lasagne, mince and olive oil as HEXBs. Loads of veg. Cheese as 12 syns. Diet coke.

Happy Saturday everyone. Smile

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NancyDrawed · 27/03/2021 09:20

Day 34
69.8kg

Rather a lot of 'flexible syns' yesterday, written down on paper, but I'm not sharing here!

Breakfast: Coffee and Belvita
Lunch: Pasta Pesto Tomatoes Cheese
Supper: All day breakfast hash (recipe from old SW mag using veggie sausages - looks lovely on the picture, hope it tastes as good!)

NancyDrawed · 28/03/2021 08:49

Day 35
69.6kg

Breakfast: Coffee and Belvita
Lunch/ Supper: Pasta pesto/chilli and rice/ lentil curry

Lots of leftovers in the fridge that need eating up. Yummy crisps all gone. Weekend wine all drunk, so today is likely to be a totally on plan day.

See you tomorrow - I'm reasonably confident to have had a loss compared to last week, but will probably be no further on than a fortnight ago!

lris · 28/03/2021 09:20

Day 35 Green.

Allbran HEXB with milk HEXA and banana. Tea with milk.

Yogurt, berries, water, more tea.

Roast chicken HEXB dinner. With potato and sweet potato mash (don't put butter in mash Sad, but a splash of milk does the trick), broccoli, green beans, carrots peas and gravy (4 syns).

Fingers crossed for losses tomorrow.

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NancyDrawed · 29/03/2021 07:15

Day 36
69.8kg

Weekly change -0.2kg
Total loss 1.0kg

Breakfast - HEA milk and Belvita (6.5)
Lunch - Pasta Pesto tomatoes HEB cheese (2 syns for pesto)
Supper - Quorn chilli and rice

Fruit and water have to be increased this week. Fruit in place of any other potential snack. I know why I am not losing weight - it is because I am not folllowing the rules!! I am in awe of your discipline Iris...

lris · 29/03/2021 07:49

Day 36.
Loss this week 2lbs.
Total losses so far 11lbs.

Green today.
Allbran HEXB with milk and banana. Tea with milk HEXA.

Omelette and salad. More tea. Water. Apple if peckish. Alpen light bar HEXB.

Jacket potato and chilli beans.

I'm pleasantly surprised with that loss, Nancy, especially having had two Italian meals at the weekend.

I have never had such good, consistent losses at group, always 2-3lbs in the first week, then half a pound or a pound after that (and paying for the privilege). So I must put that down to this thread, and thanks again for posting.

Fingers crossed you are back on track. As for discipline, I am thinking of the warm weather to come and being able to have more freedoms come summer, when all restrictions are eased. Plus (a) treating every day as Day 1, and (b) if you can't stick to plan 100%, then 80% is good enough. Smile

Here's to a good week! Flowers

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NancyDrawed · 29/03/2021 16:43

Another 2lbs off is fantastic!

I like a bit of butter on my Jacket Potato, and would want to add some to mash, too.

28g of full fat butter is 10.5 on both red and green according to my book, so if you have the syns available you could add a bit and count the syns. Those little packs you get in cafes are 7 or 8g IIRC, so it's more than a sliver and 8g would be 3 syns which I don't think is too bad, if you've got them to spare.

(WIth a JP, I put the plate on the scales and then add a bit of butter to the potato so I know exactly what I've had without having to weigh it separately before adding it)