Still only 4 hours at 12 weeks

[Hughsie]

Help - ds2 still only sleeps for 4 hours at 12 weeks old - breastfeeding with one bottle (formula) which makes no difference to the length of sleep - only sleeps for 1.5 hours in a row in the day also with cat naps of half an hour here and there. What can I do to help this situation? Getting desperate as have to cope with a 2 yr old ds1 and new baby in the day on little sleep.

Need sympathy if nothing else?

Ds went from 11 pm - nearly 5 am last night, so things improving slowly. Mind you, not doing so well with lunch-time naps for last 2 days, wakes up after 45 minutes, but I leave him to settle and that seems to do the trick.

Melly - I think that sounds AMAZINGLY good for a baby so young! Then again, my ds still doesn't sleep a full night and he's nearly 2! Yaaaaaawwwwwwn. ZZZzzzzz.

grr 4 hrs at 10 weeks

Melly - I'd settle for that and my ds is nearly 13 weeks now. He had his jabs yesterday so was unsettled - slept 8.30 - 11.30 then 12.30 - 3, 4 - 5.15 etc - not sure I ever got a decent run of sleep and then the builders arrived at 7.45 - yippee....NOT!

Hoorah!

9.15 -4am!!! Not counting my chickens yet but maybe he has turned the corner - i was nearly tempted to top him up with a ottle after a b/f but glad I resisted as I would have put the longer sleep down to that! Perhaps he prefers a warm night!

dd2's sleeping is terrific at night (last night 10pm-5.30am) but I can't put her down in the evenings at the moment so eating/Eastenders is tricky. I have tried putting her down, feeding her, winding her, rocking her, just about everything bar letting her cry (she'd wake dd1 who's nearly 3) and she's only 5 and a half weeks old, so I'm not getting stressed but just wondered if anyone else had experience of this.

Unsettled evenings are really comon. I had babies permanently latched or balanced on my chest under my chin. Dh did a fair bit of cuddling then too. It will pass. In fact I used to make the excuse of baby needing to be on breast all evening so that I could watch telly

ditto hoorah 7 30 till 4 30!
MIL reckons its lavender oil

Bundle - know what you mean about worrying that your dd2 will wake dd1, but she probably won't, this is something that I worried about, I was very anxious in first few weeks that ds would wake dd but he never has (touch wood ). Mind you, my dd is such a heavy sleeper, she seems to put up with anything....husband falling through landing ceiling just outside her bedroom when she was 5 months and then me going into labour, ambulance crew arriving, baby being delivered etc etc 7 weeks ago!!! Having said that, I am just about to move dd into her "new bedroom" and put ds in her room which are next door to each other, we have to do this by Monday as out laws are arriving on Tuesday and will be occupying room where ds is currently (kicked him out of our room at about 3 days because he grunted, snuffled and farted so much!), so hopefully dd will continue to sleep through?
Going back to your original question, I think it is so common for babies to be unsettled in the evening, my dd certainly was up until about 10 weeks or so when we put her into GF routines, but I know they don't suit everyone. Ds was put into routines at about 1 week and has been settling pretty well at 7 pm since about 2/3 weeks old, although we do leave him to settle himself to sleep, never more than about 20 mins. This seems to be improving, last 2 nights he has settled down at 7 pm without a murmur.
Sorry....am rambling, too much red wine I think

Blimey codswallop - and I thought I was doing well - we have a lavender bag in the cot also but anyway whatever has caused it - it happend again last night - excellent!

all back to normal sat pm - 10 30 2 and ?? 4 cooler last night i think

I agree mine only start bedtimes from 8 weeks roughly

Whatever works for you - they lull you into a false sense of security though and I know now ds2 has done it two nights running I just assume taht it will only continue to improve but do remember how quickly it can change!

show off H !

He went to sleep earlier tonight - 8.15pm - first evening that has been quiet that I can remember - we shall see how long I get. dreading tomorrow anyway as the builders will eman I have to keep ds1 out of the garden and off his slide due to the risk of tiles flying down!!!!

Good luck. Nothing much more I can say, but I am thinking of you (with more than slight dread for the future!). xxx

Not so good - but not terrible - 8.15 - 1.15 then up until 3am restless and then awake again at 6

Not so good - but not terrible - 8.15 - 1.15 then up until 3am restless and then awake again at 6

11 pm - 6.15 am last night...yipee we're getting there. Have to admit though that ds did stir several times between 4 am - 6 am but never actually cried just sort of fussed.
Hughsie, Codswallop how are you doing?

Not brilliant again for me - 9.15 - 1.30 but didn't feed until 2.30 just grizzled a bit. then woke at 6. Must get out of the house to escape the builders today - getting stir crazy!!!!!

Mine is definitely not on thr right track - 9.45 - 1.30!!! Grizzled for half an hour then I fed and woke again at 5.20 - ever feel you haven't been asleep!

mine 3 times - arms stuck in cot bars

How annoying - try swaddling even in a cotton sheet while its warm

hes in a bag!

Cods - how is it going>? we are doing well now and I see you got 12 hours one night. We average about 9 now which is fab although I'm desperate to get him in his own room as I wake when he shuffles and interpret it as waking so am on edge ready to feed.

Builders are nearly finished so routine should improve more.